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    Zzzz, sorry what. Oh that was just me going to sleep and waking up all of a sudden. Anything to do with Chris Jericho in ring does that to me these days. You see Raw was meant to get a shot in the arm with Jericho's return. It was all meant to be the best thing since sliced bread. The hype was "off the chart" but then what?* Then Chris returned and... ...well here is what I think of Jericho.

     

     

    *Actually it was good but not as good as some would have.

     

     

    This is what I think

    Chris Jericho: **** off back to your band or change your ways.

     

     

     

    Personally I am always in Two minds about Chris Jericho firstly I have no respect for the man (not the wrestler mind the real life man) I will explain why in a moment. That said I also (usually) enjoy his Promos, actually they can be fantastic. As his war of words with the legends shows. His matches though, he can’t go 2 matches with out blowing more spots than a Diva. His matche(s) with Jeff Hardy and JBL for example reminded me of why I dislike him.

     

    Jericho when he wants to be is one of the top 5 men in WWE he has had more than his fair share of 5 star feuds particularly with Chris Benoit, (Yeah I said his name) HBK & Christian. That said he is not (always) capable of carrying opponents who are not as good as him or who work styles who clash with him. As far as the former goes He couldn’t drag a good feud out of Sean Waltman, mind you few could at that period of Waltman‘s career. As for the latter his feuds with several people who clashed with him most notable being Kane & William Regal were very boring & seemed to drag on forever. When booked with the right opponent though as I said he is never less than highly entertaining.

     

    Now as for the main reason why I don’t respect him very much it’s really simple the man can’t take criticism & won’t except that his matches are not always ‘great’. Case in point he has on more than one occasion done a shoot interview on the fans, especially the internet fans when they are disappointed with one of his matches. In Jericho’s mind he never has an off night that is quite clear.

     

    Enough bashing though instead let’s explain what role I think Jericho should be playing in WWE today. It’s really rather simple the role he should be playing is the one he played at the end of his first WWE(f) run. Putting other main eventers over while staying at the bottom of the upper mid carders / lower main eventers. The reason I say that is because he is not really good enough to carry a show, true he is a superb talker & a good wrestler but he proved in his one title reign that he can’t carry a show nor it’s title.

     

    The IC title gained some much needed prestige under Jeff and to a lesser extent Umaga’s reigns a while back. (It is still not defended enough but is at least on champions who are entertaining. Yes including JBL.) I hope Jericho can continue this and keep up the good name of the Title.

     

    No doubt many people here will loudly & happily disagree with all or some of the above, but take a step back for a minute & think about what you are going to say when replying to this thread.

     

    “You suck, Jericho is cool.” that would be an atypical reply by some, it would also be pointless instead take my main points (Jericho is not main event material, Jericho is not capable of carrying a lesser wrestler, Jericho blows moves far too often & lastly Jericho is an egomaniac to be exact) & counter argue or agree with them in a logical way that’s all I ask of anybody who replies to this.

     

    This is stupid. The poster, her post, her use of "except" in the context of "accept" and the confidence she displays in an argument so poorly constructed that everybody has deemed it unworthy of serious discussion. Jericho is cool though...

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    They may have sent Bam back to the Development fed. Could be why Golddust mentioned in his Christmas poem the other week that Jeff Hardy has more personality in one finger than in all of Bam Neely. Kind of funny that Bam has gone from beating the shit out of Kane when he was ECW Champion to being completely gone from TV.

     

    Not as funny as Fake Kane getting a clean win over Real Kane and leaving altogether because he lost a backstage brawl.

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    1. Mark Henry - Will be ECW champ at Night of Champion. This is the fall out from the Michael Hayes racial insensitive case. I like Herny, but WWE doesn't. Why?!? He makes a downside $1 Million (or has it been 10 years already).

     

    The contract expired in 2006.

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    The first Judgment Day is one of those sneaky bad shows. Like most Russo PPVs, it's basically just an extended episode of RAW. But this is an especially bad episode. You have Kane Vs The Undertaker in the main event (which had gotten tired even by then), The Rock jobbing cleanly to Mark Henry just as The Rock's getting a superpush, and The Headbangers (who were Shotgun fodder by this point) getting a tag team title shot for no other reason than the fact that The New Age Outlaws had probably gone through every other team on the roster by this point. Mankind-Shamrock and X-Pac-D Lo Brown may have been good, I don't really remember as I haven't seen it in seven or eight years but I remember not liking it as a mark so that should tell you something. I can think of shows I thought were good as a mark that I think are terrible now but I can't think of a show where the opposite rang true.

     

    I Highly disagree. Watch it again. Snow-Mero, Taka-Christian and Goldust-Venis were all good-great midcard matches. X-Pac-D'Lo and Shamrock-Mankind were solid if unspectacular.

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    I still believe that Phantasm is the best Batman movie ever made, followed by Batman Begins.

     

    Agreed, it was more faithful to Batman's character and mythos. Not to mention that the love story was one of the few I actually ever cared about in a movie.

     

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    Jack Kirby - Arguably the most influential artist in comic book history, and still one of the most exciting.

     

    Dave Gibbons - Did an incredible job on Watchmen.

     

    Garth Ennis - I'm honestly surprised that he hasn't been mentioned already.

     

    Alan Moore - Ditto.

     

    Frank Miller - Before Dark Knight Strikes Again...

     

    Grant Morrison - Did a better job with the JLA than anyone that I can remember, except for maybe...

     

    Keith Giffen J.M. Dematteis (sp?) - Granted their Justice League was filled with perennial B-heroes, but the stories were well-written, funny and the characters were easier to relate to.

     

    Kevin Maguire - I like his art.

     

    Steve Dillon - Ditto.

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    Hahaha anti-semite... I should have paid closer attention to your name before I wrote "you and your ilk." Oops. :D

     

    Bill Murray was hilarious in Groundhog Day (and "What About Bob?"). I also enjoy the works of Peter Sellers and Mitch Hedberg. Curb Your Enthusiasm, early 90's SNL and Kids in the Hall are great shows.

     

    For the ones you didn't already mention, I like Dave Chapelle, Chris Farley, Steve Carell, Adam Sandler (before Little Nicky), David Spade (with Farley), Eddie Murphy (80's only), Dan Akroyd (80's only), Chevy Chase, Russell Peters, and Jerry Seinfeld.

     

    God, has a normally funny person (Adam Sandler) ever done anything less funny than Little Nicky?

     

    And here I thought I was the only one who hated that film. Perhaps I was a little hasty in my judgment...of the jews. :D Yeah, I really wanted to like it but they were trying too hard with such a horrid script. It was a total waste of Harvey Keitel.

     

    Click was a decent comedy, I had a couple laughs and the concept worked. Mr.Deeds was at least partly funny. The foot fetish jokes were the highlight. I loathe the majority of musicals so I can't accurately judge 8 Crazy Nights.

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    Hahaha anti-semite... I should have paid closer attention to your name before I wrote "you and your ilk." Oops. :D

     

    Bill Murray was hilarious in Groundhog Day (and "What About Bob?"). I also enjoy the works of Peter Sellers and Mitch Hedberg. Curb Your Enthusiasm, early 90's SNL and Kids in the Hall are great shows.

     

    For the ones you didn't already mention, I like Dave Chapelle, Chris Farley, Steve Carell, Adam Sandler (before Little Nicky), David Spade (with Farley), Eddie Murphy (80's only), Dan Akroyd (80's only), Chevy Chase, Russell Peters, and Jerry Seinfeld.

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    The guy I replied to came across as pretty elitist to me, I was just responding in kind. I really don't care if you like him and I probably won't think that much less of you, but don't try to make him sound like he's some kind of comedy genius whose glorified improv routine is above our heads. This is a thread for people who hate Will Ferrell, not for those who want to come here and start telling others how joyless and bitter they are for having a different opinion.

     

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    I see a pretentious troll who happens to have a thesaurus nearby and is trying to sugarcoat his imbecilic ramblings with fancy lingo. Will Ferrell's comedy is made for the stupid by the stupid. There is no thought behind any of it. It's dumb physical humor with a blend of nonsense and grade-school level sexual innuendos. It has you in stitches because you have a simple mind. Perhaps that's the context that you and your ilk live in...

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    I like where the WWE folder is going. I haven't been a regular viewer for years but I still remember how much I loved wrestling when it was good. Threads like these give me a chance to actually talk about what I like about wrestling, not what is wrong with it (i.e. everything today).

     

    Has this WWE run hurt his overall legacy or improved it? Can he really stay retired or this just another Terry Funk retirement?

     

    He's basically been a geriatric comedy act during his WWE run, and I've watched some shows with friends where they openly laughed at his dated routine. I highly doubt that he is going to stay retired, and I also doubt that this match will be anywhere close to 4 stars, though I can see Meltzer giving it at least that much.

     

    -What's your favorite Flair match?

     

    Probably the Flair vs Funk I Quit match because Flair deviated from his usual formula to deliver a compelling brawl.

     

    -Is he overrated/underrated relative to his 80s and 90s peers?

     

    More overrated than any wrestler in the history of the internet and dirt sheets. He was an excellent promo and a competent worker, but he stuck to a predictable routine that took away the drama from his matches, and he didn't exactly need 30-60 minutes to tell those "stories."

     

    -Do the 21 (16?) world title wins mean anything to you?

     

    See HTQ/CHP's answer.

     

    -Did he hang on too long?

     

    Yes.

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    I haven't cared about WrestleMania since I last ordered four years ago. However, I remember how excited I was to see WrestleMania X-7, and how pumped I was for Rock-Hogan at WrestleMania X-8. I missed WrestleMania 2000 because I was in England. WrestleMania XIX was a little underwhelming and lacked a real main event, though it was nice to see Rock finally go over Austin. Brock-Angle was a good main event, but lacked the electricity of prior main events and the fans weren't strongly behind or against either guy. WrestleMania XX was the last time I marked out for a wrestling match...

     

    I watched the earlier Wrestlemanias by renting them from my local video station (back when they carried old wrestling tapes; they stopped in 2001). I remember renting WrestleMania X for the heavily hyped ladder match between Michaels and Razor, and coming away far more impressed with Bret-Owen. WrestleMania 13 had quite possibly the best match in wrestling history with Bret-Austin. I really enjoyed WrestleMania 3, and 5 through 8, Savage was a great worker in his day and better than Flair at his peak. Give me Savage-Steamboat over any of Flair's matches with The Dragon, or Savage-Warrior over Flair-Sting.

     

    1. What wrestler has had the most memorable Mania matches for you?

     

    Bret. WrestleMania VIII against Piper, WrestleMania X against Owen, WrestleMania 12 against Michaels, and WrestleMania 13 against Austin.

    2. Has anyone been "made" from a Wrestlemania match? If so, whom?

     

    If it weren't for WrestleMania 6, people wouldn't still be talking about Warrior today.

    3. What match do you think of first when you think of a big Mania match?

     

    Rock vs Austin at WrestleMania X-7. It was probably the most watched and anticipated main event ever in wrestling.

    4. How important is a memorable entrance for a match at Mania? How much does that add to the feel of the match?

     

    It does make the match seem more important than it probably is but I'm really sick of seeing Michaels repelling from the ceiling at WrestleMania XII, since WWE has played it at least a million times whenever they look back on his career or hype WrestleMania.

    5. Who has had the best Mania entrance that has added to the feel of the match?

     

    Austin at WrestleMania 13. That shattered "glass" was a cool visual and signified that this match was going to be violent.

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