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  1. And I'm still waiting for someone to justify how the Yankees are allowed to sell advertising to casinos when their players can't gamble.

     

    Because there is an explicit rule preventing players from gambling, while no rule exists prohibiting teams from accepting advertising from casinos. Is this not right? Possibly, but it in no way justifies Rose's actions.


  2. If he led the Series in Batting Average then he wasn't trying to hard to throw it. Sounds like he was player for his own pride.

     

    He hit alot in non-clutch situations, and that batting average says nothing about his fielding, which was reputed to have been poor the entire Series.

     

    What's he going to do rat out that his team mates are going to throw the series and forever being known as Tatle Tale Joe Jackson? Yeah you can look at it yes he should have told the proper authorities about it but I'm sure he would have been shuned by most of the other players as the guy that you can't trust to say things around or he'll go tell management.

     

    Yeah, that pesky Joe, always ruining our plans to throw the championship. So how does that explain Jackson agreeing to throw the Series? Even if he reigned on the agreement, he still made an agreement.


  3. A few points here about Pete Rose.....

     

    1. Betting on games does have an effect on baseball. While betting on a game may not directly effect the outcome of a game, it hurts the game's integrity. Integrity is VITAL to the health of any sport. How does gambling effect the game's integrity? It doesn't matter if Rose actually threw the games. If it is known that a player, manager, or whoever bets on a game, then the fan immediately begins to worry, "Am I seeing a legitimate athletic contest?"

     

    2. It doesn't matter that Rose didn't throw a game. There's a rule in place that says no gambling. I don't know if Rose bet on baseball or not, but if he did, then he broke a written rule.

     

    Shoeless Joe Jackson was the one person on the team who shouldn't have gotten banned. He was the one person on the team that was trying to win. People around Chicago are always petitioning to get Shoeless Joe Jackson reinstated. If he can't get reinstated when its painfully obvious that he had no part in the entire scandal then I don't see Rose getting reinstated.

     

    First off, throwing the World Series and gambling are two different offenses. Throwing the series is far worse than betting on regular season games, and you can't really compare Jackson with Rose.

     

    With that in mind, I see some falsehoods in your statement. It is NOT painfully obvious that Jackson was not involved in the scandal. Look at the facts.

     

    1. Joe Jackson sat in on the meeting where the means of throwing the World Series were discussed, along with seven other players.

     

    2. Jackson received $5,000 on the pretense of throwing the World Series. It doesn't matter at this point whether he did anything to actually throw the Series. HE RECEIVED MONEY FROM GAMBLERS.

     

    3. Jackson did hit the Series' only home run. In game 8, with the White Sox already down by five runs.

     

    I've never heard anything even suggest that Jackson wasn't even involved in the scandal.


  4. Some more triple play trivia for ya. EVERY triple play in history has involved the fielder catching a line drive, and then stepping on second and tagging the runner from first. Seven have occured via the shortstop. Three are by second basemen, and two are first basemen. No other positions have featured an unassisted triple play.


  5. That's some skill right there. Some skill and a little luck.

    Some skill and ALL luck.....considering all the errors Fucal has had this year.

    All luck, but not because of Furcal's fielding percentage. Honestly I don't know how good Furcal is of a fielder, but errors aren't an accurate measure of ability. Unless we're talking about Butch Hobson.


  6. Here's the complete list, courtesy of Total Baseball

     

    Neal Ball

    Bill Wambsganss

    George Burns

    Ernie Padgett

    Glenn Wright

    Jimmy Cooney

    Johnny Neun

    Ron Hansen

    Mickey Morandini

    John Valentin

    Randy Velarde

    Rafael Furcal

     

    Interesting to note that 6 of the 11 happened in the '20s. Wambsganss' occured in a World Series game. Only one occured between 1927 and 1968.

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