The C Man
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I can see where you're coming from, but I feel the Taker match should have been saved for after Austin became champ, like in reality. That Summerslam match really cemented Austin as the man. I know people like to be unconventional and distance themselves from reality as much as possible when fantasy booking but sometimes reality can't be bettered, if it aint broke, don't fix it.
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I'm not talking of billing it as 'Angle vs whoever'; just simply 'Angle's debut'. The Angle signing was huge, it should all be about him. What high hopes? Doing nothing? Not being on PPV's? If they do, they're not showing it. I feel wrestling is too conservative when it comes to losing. Bobby Roode has only started a singles run, why shouldn't he be 'jobbed out' to Kurt Angle - multi-time World champion, Olympic gold medallist, the biggest acquisition in TNA history, a man billed as the best wrestler in the world & one of the best of all time? Surely if the no.1 contender to your World title is expendable then someone they have 'high hopes' for is too. You could even - the following week - have Roode be interviewed about what facing Kurt Angle is like, since he's the only one in TNA to have wrestled him. Roode can say now he knows what the standard is, he knows how good he needs to be to be the very best. Even though he lost it's only made him hungrier, he's going to try that little bit more, he's going to push himself that little bit more, so that the next time he faces Angle it'll be his hand rasied in victory and they'll be asking Kurt Angle the following week how it felt to have been in the ring with the greatest wrestler in the world, Robert Roode. Spilled into a Roode fantasty promo there, but you get the idea. I wasn't advocating splitting, just a backstage arguement based on the cold, hard facts everyone can see. Maybe it didn't come across as such but I thought the fact Traci came back with the whole 'huge announcement' thing showed it was only an argument and not a split.
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Personally for Angle's first match I would've liked to have seen him go against Robert Roode. You could have Roode bitch at Traci - he could've picked anyone for his manager but he picked her and she's done nothing, etc; Traci storms off; comes back later and tells him she has a huge match for him, in fact it's so huge they need to go to the ring to announce it; in the ring the match is announced, maybe have a short Angle interview/montage, maybe have him training then be asked about his debut match; "I don't care who it is, I WILL hurt them, in fact, whoever you are, Angle's gonna kill you"; Roode freaks out, JOE~! appears, whether he does or doesn't attack Roode is up for debate.
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WCW facts, tidbits, and stuff people forgot
The C Man replied to JoeDirt's topic in General Wrestling
Regarding the failed Fusient buy-out, what would have happened with the wrestler contracts? Would they all have automatically transferred over to Fusient or would they have to be bought out? -
Totally agreed on the facial expressions point, however my point was that I just want a final swansong with the mask. For the character to come full-circle? For 'old-times' sake? Anything really, Kane was just IMO a lot cooler with the mask. Get the mask back; the old beginning of the entrance back; go on a 97-debut-esque ass-kicking spree; then put someone over by ending the Kane character. I'd be a happy man.
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As much as I like Kane he is pretty much wasted. All the things they could have done with him and all the chances they were given to evolve the character into something more meaninful than 'unstoppable-monster-who-used-to-be-burned-but-wasn't-really' have gone. All I can hope for now is Kane to go out on a mask-wearing high.
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Maybe one final swansong with the mask, like Taker going back to his Deadman persona? Just have him be 'burned' again(?). Inferno match perhaps?
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How did they come up with these gimmicks or characters
The C Man replied to Vern Gagne's topic in General Wrestling
I've heard that the 'Stone Cold' moniker came from a TV program. I've also heard that it came from one of Austin's previous wives, who said that he should drink his tea before it got 'stone cold'. I'm sure someone knows the real answer. -
Wrestlers with extreme heat and where and why it started?..
The C Man replied to a topic in The WWE Folder
Regarding the Shawn/Owen stuff, wasn't it years later before Shawn actually admitted he was in on the screwjob. There's no doubt he had heat with Bret but at the time of the Owen program he would've still been denying knowledge of the screwjob. -
I'm guessing you've never done this before, have you? If you really want to do something like this and you're willing to put the effort in (I.E. not copy&paste) the best place to go would probably be the EW Battleground?
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Lita and Buff Bagwell. Bagwell goes without saying but Lita, why not? She had her somewhat-unique spots, and was something different for a valet.
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Screwing RVD?
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Wasn't this match so good that the four wrestlers were bitched at for upstaging the 'real' stars?
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Let's Create Terrible Gimmicks for WWE!
The C Man replied to Phoenix Fury Legdrop's topic in The WWE Folder
Damn you and your hideously-good memory Czech. -
Let's Create Terrible Gimmicks for WWE!
The C Man replied to Phoenix Fury Legdrop's topic in The WWE Folder
I know this is the terrible gimmicks thread but I think bringing back Droz as a bitter wheelchair-bound heel could be a great idea. I'm sure it's been mentioned here before. Bring D'Lo back and have him do Droz's dirty work because he feel's guilty. Of course it would have to be handled correctly (which won't happen I know). -
New Japan Dome swansong results
The C Man replied to Hunter's Torn Quad's topic in General Wrestling
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If THE STREAK~! is staying intact I'd rather Taker retired before Mania to keep it at 13-0. 13 fits the Taker character better than 14. It's no big deal really, but I'm fussy with little details.
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Cena's old freestyles
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To me it seems like he can't make up his mind who he's trying to attack with the article. One minute he's balming McMahon & co. and has sympathy for the wrestlers, the next the sympathy is gone and the wrestlers are just as evil. If it was solely an attack on the 'system' I would agree with him. As it is I'm left somewhere in the middle.
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I'd like to see him get the good ol' pink slip; go to TNA; come to the ring with the Eugene gimmick; then get on the mic and rip the WWE to shreds for the stupid shit they made him do, while ripping his Eugene attire off.
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Sean O'Haire. Don't care he wasn't released recently. The guy was money I tell ya.
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Overall it's decent. I think it's very hard to better some of the stuff that was going on back then. Whether that's me just looking at it through rose-tinted glasses or not, I don't know. The booking of Austin especially, and most of those around him (Foley, Taker) I think was too flawless to touch. The Austin/Dude Love feud started the McMahon/Foley feud; which led to the perfect Rock heel turn (which I think Foley played an underated role in); the Kane title win led to the first sign of the Taker/Kane alliance, which led to the title getting held up, which led to the tournament, which again led to the Rock's heel turn. Everything just seemed to tie in and just work. The Cactus/Vader feud should lead to a Hell in a Cell, which should lead to Foley's big bumps. Different opponent or not, that was an important moment in WWF history. Kane talking is a HUGE mistake. In reality it took 2, 3 years for Kane to finally talk. And it came when the Kane character needed some character development. You seem to be shooting your load far too quickly. The whole Rock/Nation thing I think could have worked better if you built up the tension a bit more and then had Rock and Faarooq play deulling leaders, so to speak. The rest of The Nation would be unsure at first but would side with Rock, kicking Faarooq out. However then I would've went with the bait-and-switch and had The Nation turn on Rock and rejoin Faarooq, thus turning Rock face. Rock would then go through all of The Nation before finally defeating Faarooq, which I think would've gave him a whole lot of momentum. I don't like HBK being back with DX. The HHH 'you dropped the ball' promo, the X-Pac debut, the induction of the New Age Outlaws, and the war on WCW, nothing needed to be changed. I understand that you want to change things, but some things don't need changing. Sorry if it seems negative, I'm not merely trying to criticise. It's just that the negative really caught my attention. P.S. I've got tons of ideas for stuff if you're ever needing some help, or you just want someone to bounce ideas off of. I'm happy to help.
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Rhino Italian football/soccer player RINO Gattuso
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Does it not say something about the current state of the WWE that the highlight and main focus of the show was a 56 year-old man with bigger breasts than the women he somehow managed to hook up with?
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Sean O'Haire - If only Fusient Media had bought WCW so he could have got the big push. Seanton Bomb > Swanton Bomb. Positively Kanyon - He was better at DDP than DDP was. And how can you foget the Judy Bagwell on a Pole match. New Age Outlaws - No, not the 'James Gang'. The Bad Ass Billy Gunn, the Road Dogg Jesse James, the New Age Outlaaaaaaaaaaaws. [/markout] Bryan Clarke - I was going to say Kronik but then I remembered Brian Adams was in it. Clarke was good though, Wrath could have been a solid mid/upper-carder. Anyone know what Clarke's up to nowadays?