Lt. Al Giardello

If not Virgil, bring back Orlando Jordan and have him play the role!

So did Josh Koscheck, but he failed in both fights when he took down Diego. Fitch was the only one succesful at keeping Diego down, and even then he almost got caught in a few submissions... Plus I thought Diego should've got the desicion against Fitch.

If you want to talk about skills of a player... Stockton didn't have the heart, toughness or the killer instinct that Thomas had. In there respective primes, I have no doubt that Thomas was a better player. Was Stockton a better passer? Yes... Was Stockton a better defender? Yes... But Thomas was a great passer as well, and amazing dribbler with amazing scoring ability. And to top it all off, he had the heart and desire to take over an entire game, ESPECIALLY when it was in the clutch. 16 points in 93 seconds, 25 points in a single quater with a busted up ankle... Those are career defining moments. Of course those defining moments and Thomas's heart and toughness all lead to him have a shorter career then Stockton... It also helped him have 2 more rings, and a Finals MVP over Stockton.

Trust me, Sean Avery isn't as big of a douchebag as Dion Phanuef. I take nothing away from Phanuef as a player, I'm grateful he plays for my team. But if you met him in person or seen what he is like outside of the rink, you would know what I'm talking about. Just because he doesn't make headlines like Avery, doesn't make him less of a douchebag. Plus Avery doesn't look like a real life Beavis.

Fitch, and Sanchez would beat Sherk on the ground problay as well.

Seconded. Third.

That's pretty ridiculous to say, as Robert Horry was nothing more then a bench player when he won championships. Although he made clutch shots, he was never the team leader or anything more then the supporting cast. And number of titles DO matter, to say it doesn't is pretty outrageous. And I'm not trying to argue that Stockton isn't a better passer then Thomas. Thomas had more PPG then Stockton... And Thomas made the All-Star game more in less years then Stockton. Stockton had better passing and defensive numbers, Thomas had better scoring and more awards and accomplishments outside of stats.

Although Jordan became a smarter basketball player, don't act like Jordan wasn't an absolute beast or the best player in the NBA when the Pistons dominated them in 1987-1988... That year was problay his best year when it came to stats and accomplishments, he won the MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and averaged 35 PPG. That season ranks as one of the best regular seasons by a player, EVER. And when the Pistons beat the Celtics in 1987-1988, Bird had his best statistical season ever.

If Thomas didn't tear his achilles tendon, he would've problay been the 1st one to reach 10,000 assists. Plus you add in Thomas has been on the NBA 1st Team more then Stockton did in less years, and his two NBA rings along with an NBA finals MVP, aswell as him beating Jordan, Bird, and Magic in the playoffs, there is your reason why Thomas is ranked above Thomas. I'm not trying to downplay Stockton's legacy at all, but it seems like most people are biased against Thomas because of what he did outside the court as a person and what he has done as GM/Head Coach instead of focusing on what he did as a player. Plus if you look at most experts ranking the best PG's ever, the majority I've read puts Thomas ahead of Stockton.

I don't know, Thomas was more athletic and a better scorer, but Stockton played better D, shot better, and was a better distributor and ball handler. Stockton didn't have the ability to take over an entire game like Thomas did... And to say Stockton was a better ball handler is very arguable. Plus Stockton always had a top 3 greatest power forward ever to compliment him. You tell me which PG can say they beat Magic, Bird, and Jordan in the playoffs?

Me personally, I'd take Thomas over Stockton, but this forum seems to have a hard on for Stockton... Must be the shorts, j/k.

How does this douchebag... Get with this...

Actually if I couldn't get Stockton I was going to take Payton in the second round. I value his defensive abilities and he has a solid 3 point shot over what Kidd brings to the table. So you would take Payton over Thomas as well? Thats a pretty bold statement... I guess people will remember what Thomas did as a GM and Coach moreso then what he accomplished as a player. There are a few other PG's I'd take over Payton as well. I'd problay take 6 or 7 PG's ahead of Payton.

Just to spoil KOAB's party...

Payton picked over Jason Kidd? Wow...

Nate Quarry...

In my case why I didn't draft Kobe... Is because I wanted a franchise PF/C 1st, and I felt KG was the most talented PF that was left on the board... Plus I feel KG would have better chemistry with Isiah then he would with Kobe. Isiah also had the ability to take a game over, and was very clutch when it came down to the wire. I wanted a true point guard to mess with KG, not a ballhog shooting guard who is only out for himself.

Excatly... Sherk has been with the company for how many years, and plus you add in the fact that the UFC hype machine has built him to be a unstoppable wrestling/cardio machine. UFC also cut Din Thomas, who isn't really a boring fighter and has had some entertaining bouts. Plus Sherk has been playing a great heel leading up to the Penn bout... Even if he is boring, people will pay to see his fights in hopes he will lose.

I wasn't really impressed with him, but I thought he fought a very smart fight and allowed Jeremy May to punch himself out. Matt was picking him apart and set his KO up nicely. He kept his composure the whole fight and didn't allow his emotions get the best of him. I though it was a very well done performance.

I'm sure a team looking for cap relief next year will take him... Why not look for a trade? How much is Marburys final year worth anyway? Is a buy out an option?

C.B. Dollaway and Gerald Harris should help Rampage get 2 more victories... I always felt they were the best two on the show.

How much is left on Marburys contract?

As Lei Tong said... "Jeremy May punches like a white LaFarrell Bunting."

I stole a fishermans hook from work today... Excatly like the one used in I Know What You Did Last Summer.

No mention of Sudden Death? That movie was badass...