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Not sure if you were, but you had to be around at the time. Nothing I thought was bigger than Hogan/Andre. Steamboat coming back to get revenge on Savage for almost killing him, (I remember being scared to death when I saw Steamboat getting axe handle on the guardrail to his neck) was crazy. Roddy Piper's last match, what I thought at the time, and a bunch of feuds that were finishing that were all hot at the time. And there was more than one good match. There were a few ** - ***, solid - decent affairs with CRAZY heat and the biggest match ever to me, at that time. And workrateisn't the end all be all to me to having a great show. You have to have a lot of heat and great storylines. That's why Survivor Series 1998 is one of my favorite PPVs.

Weren't they strapped

It was a nice show

The fact is Austin drew so much more money then Hogan in 5 year shorter span that's pretty easy that Austin is the biggest draw.

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Bret Hart was SUPPOSED to go to WCW in early (Right around the time he lost to the Mountie) 1992, but didn't give Vince notice in enough time, so he had to stay. The the thing going around then was Bret was going to show up at Clash of the Champion with the belt which Dave Meltzer said is a little far fetched.

The whole last 3 weeks have made no sense froma logical standpoint. If all these guys are the GM and want the belt of Triple H they could easily make a match where it would be impossible for Triple H to win. How hard is this "I'm the GM this week. The Match Triple H v. Me. Only way Triple H wins is if he makes me submit. Any other result, I win the title. If he gets pinned, counted out, Dq'd, Draw, I get Dq'd, counted out etc...any other result then Triple H winning by submission, I win" It's not that hard really. I understand it might make them look weak winning the title like that, but that's aside from what they want to do. From their perspective they just want to win the belt. Or just go the simple route and make one of my SS teamates the refs. anything like that would make sense. I thought the main purpose was to get the title of Triple H when they won GM privileges?

How about the fact that Orton made the main event last week, when he wasn't even GM ? They did it again last night with Jericho making the Trish vs. Lita match too

Get Jordan or R. Williams at running back for starters. Collins will be more comfortable in Oakland next year, not worried about him.

Nah. Ric Flair was told he was going to be in the mid-cards, and so they gave him the option to go back to WCW, so he chose to. They needed someone to put the title on since Flair was champion, and they just gave it to Bret Hart since he was the best option at the time. Not really confidence, as in a new direction. And Bob Backlund was always going to lose the title to Diesel then.

I really felt bad for Bret at SS 1997 The Anvil on that Raw when he thought he joined DX, and they turned on him. Same with Big Bossman when he thought he joined the nWo Mick Foley after the KOTR 1998 Marty Jannety when Shawn threw him through the glass window Earthquake killed damien Bossman again when Nailz fuucked him up. Dusty Rhodes when the Road Warriors were fuucking up his face with the spikes

Well he was crazy over in DX. When he first turned heel he wasn't getting much of a reaction because he was boring.

Mets Top Red Sox in Offer to Martínez By LEE JENKINS and JACK CURRY Published: November 30, 2004 The team that almost always showed up a few days late and a couple of million dollars short has pulled up the first seat at the high-stakes table. In recent years, the Mets were too late to land Mike Mussina. They were too cheap to bid for Alex Rodriguez. They were too cautious in the competition for Vladimir Guerrero. But under a new general manager, Omar Minaya, the Mets may be changing the way they do business. The Mets have submitted a contract proposal to Pedro Martínez that is more lucrative than the one offered by the Boston Red Sox, according to a major league executive with knowledge of the discussions. To this point, baseball's off-season has mostly been marked by everything that has not happened. No prominent free agents have switched teams and no blockbuster deals have been announced. There probably have been as many unreturned phone calls as substantive conversations, as many empty promises as actual negotiations. In making a run at Martínez, the Mets are among the first teams to put their cash on the table for a premium player. The Red Sox have offered Martínez a two-year guaranteed contract worth $25.5 million with an easily attainable third-year option. The Mets countered late Sunday with a three-year guaranteed contract worth approximately $38 million with a vesting option for a fourth year. Neither the Mets nor Martínez's agent Fernando Cuza would confirm or deny the offer. With the offer, the Mets have conveyed that they are serious about signing Martínez and want to make an impact in the 2005 season. Although there is obvious skepticism as to why Martínez would leave a World Series champion to play for the Mets, who barely avoided finishing in last place for the third year in a row, there are also indications that he is considering the idea. Martínez has previously had success in the National League, coming up with the Los Angeles Dodgers and establishing himself in Montreal, where he won the first of his three Cy Young awards. The Red Sox indicated that they would not change their initial offer to Martínez until they knew there was competition. Now, the 33-year-old Martínez has something to take back to Boston, whether the Mets are just a bargaining chip or a legitimate destination. For everything Boston can promise - a clubhouse accepting of Martínez's somewhat unpredictable ways, a rabid fan base and another chance at a World Series - he knows that he would start next season behind Curt Schilling in Boston's rotation. With the Mets, he would become the team's ace. During interviews this off-season, Martínez said he was open-minded about leaving Boston, where he has spent the past seven seasons. More than anything, he said, he sought respect and would judge teams by the way they treated him. Minaya accelerated the courting process when he took Martínez to dinner on Thursday night in Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, the country where Minaya and Martínez were born. A couple of days later, Minaya began drawing up an offer for Martínez. By contrast, the Yankees' principal owner, George Steinbrenner, met with Martínez on Nov. 16 in Tampa, Fla., and has still not offered him a contract. Despite Steinbrenner's sense of competition with the Mets and the Red Sox, one person in baseball who has spoken with him said Steinbrenner was not rattled by the Mets' pursuit of Martínez. Steinbrenner could always change his mind, but as of now, he appears willing to let Martínez relocate to Queens instead of the Bronx. Instead, Steinbrenner and the Yankees seem more focused on acquiring Randy Johnson from Arizona. The Yankees and the Diamondbacks have had discussions about Johnson, 41, but the talks have not advanced far, and a trade would be difficult to complete. Because the Yankees acknowledge that they may fail to land Johnson, they have expressed interest in a handful of other pitchers. They will play host to Florida's Carl Pavano this weekend, and according to Pavano's agent, Scott Shapiro, Pavano will meet with General Manager Brian Cashman and the pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre, along with Mussina and Javier Vazquez, Pavano's former teammate in Montreal. The Yankees have also continued talks with one free-agent left-handed pitcher, Philadelphia's Eric Milton, but have been hesitant to pursue another, Al Leiter, because of his allegiance to the Mets. The Yankees' stance may change now that the Mets have made an aggressive offer to Martínez, which would seem to be one more indication that the Mets no longer want Leiter. Nevertheless, Randy Hendricks, one of Leiter's agents, wrote in an e-mail message yesterday that the Yankees and the Mets remained viable options for his client. "We don't consider anything exhausted at this point in time with either team," he wrote. Meanwhile, Minaya's priorities for this winter are becoming clearer. He hopes to sign Martínez and then find a first baseman and a corner outfielder. The Mets have not made an offer to Richie Sexson, the free-agent first baseman who played last season for Arizona, but they have had extensive communication with his agent and appear as interested in Sexson as he is in them. The 6-foot-8 Sexson would be a steadying influence for a young infield and could reduce the number of throwing errors the Mets had last season. Besides his above-average defense, Sexson, 29, would provide plenty of power, having hit 45 home runs for Milwaukee in 2001 and 2003. He had shoulder surgery last season, but the operation was not to his throwing arm, and some teams are even looking at him as a left fielder. The Mets still seem eager to fill one outfield spot with Sammy Sosa. They would be satisfied to trade Cliff Floyd for Sosa, but Minaya and Chicago Cubs General Manager Jim Hendry are going back and forth on the financial particulars. Minaya recently submitted a counter proposal in which the Cubs would assume more of Sosa's salary. Minaya has already been waiting on Hendry, and now he is waiting on Martínez. No one, however, is waiting on the Mets. And why wont the Mets sign Pedro? Omar is DYING to make a big splash this off season for whatever reason.

... by turning heel, something he refused to do. The impression that I get is that, had that show not been held in England, Shawn Michaels would have been the one to dethrone Bret Hart of the IC belt on that date, not the Bulldog. Butch Reed was supposed to win the IC title from Ricky Steamboat. But he no showed and the Honkytonk Man was thrown in as a last-minute substitute after Hogan suggested it to Vince. The Legion of Doom were to meet the Natural Disasters in a title rematch at WrestleMania VIII. It was never announced on TV. As a matter of fact, that entire card was turned upside down. Aside from the obvious main event changes, Owen and Neidhart were supposed to be part of the 8-man tag at one point, IIRC. From my understanding the mainevent for WM 8 was always going to be what it winded up being. But yeah I knew Warrior did something backstage... I also agree with the Shawn Michaels/Bret Hart thing you came up with, though I never heard it before. I know Lex Luger was supposed to win the World Title at SS, but they thought it was too soon, wait to WM, but by then Bret Hart was the most popular of the two, so they put it on him again. And Luger the choker title still holds...

Austin is the biggest drawing wrestler ever in NA wrestling history. This cannot be argued. Go read some back issues of the Observer. Like the guy above said he drew the WWF more money in a 5 year span then Hogan did for over a decade. Now the WWF didn't have as many PPV's either, so you might wanna consider that, though I doubt Austin still wouldn't lead in this. Austin's merchandise sold FAAAAAAAAAAR more as well. After Austin it's probably either Hogan or the Rock. And Superstar Billy Graham sold out 19 out of 20 MSG shows.

Austin is the biggest drawing wrestler ever. Austin vs. The Rock at WM is the biggest draw in wrestling history for one match. They made the WWE 45 Million plus for one match.

Maybe later on, but in 1998 Goldberg was arguably as over as Steve Austin at the time. Yep. Goldberg was even MORE popular than Austin from Early 1998 to late 1998. Then he started becoming less of the headline and they had him feuding with Bigelow and then losing thetitle to Nash completely ended it.

Why Goldberg in August? Didn't he win the title in July? And why no Hogan in 1985 also? Well mainly because after he won the title, he actually started getting less pub. Sorta like Bret in 1997. He was the Champion but the main angles were around Hollywood and Nash. Hogan was crazy over in 1985, but I think he got to OH MY GOD level after WrestleMania I. That's when Hogan's craze was at it's height. The Rock in 2000 deserves some mention...when he ebatTriple H for the WWf title at BackLash maybe be the loudest I heard a crowd for a title change.

Goldberg from April 1998 - August was the most popular wrestler of all-time. The others 1)Austin from January 1998 - 2000 2) Hogan from 1986 - 1989 3) Sting 1997

Since he bumps Eazy E he's become my favorite wrestler by default!

I think he's going to lose it to Jericho nextweek, and beat him for it in a rematch.

Nah, no way is that true. Maybe it's not as deep as it was before, but there's definitely bad blood there.

Orton, because that's probably the most logical way they can excuse him getting around the stipulation of him not getting a title shot with HHH as champ.

It was a Hall of Fame introduction Hall of Fame presented by Gorilla Monsoon: Bret Hart (winner) • Yokozuna • Diesel • Bob Backlund • The Undertaker http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/p.../wwf/slammy.htm

Didn't the WWf put Bret Hart in the Hall of Fame during the 1996 Slammys? Or does that not count anymore?