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But... why was Nitro in the match at all? I know SOMEone had to be, since Benoit was busy making a little fort with his family's corpses, but why was Ntiro the substitute, when ever since Mercury was fired he's spent his time doing nothing but jobbing?

Go fuck yourself, asshole, there's no reason to bring up stupid personal insults (and WRONG ones at that) in a debate over goddamned rassling.

Why I tried to never, ever stop there whenever I was driving through. And oh yeah, these stories perfectly illustrate why I wanna buy a gun and keep it on me at all times, and why I tell gun control nuts to go fuck 'emselves.

"See"? If memory recalls, the fight took place on the floor behind a bar, and we didn't see any of it.

I guess you never tested it on an iMac using Safari, then. For those questions, this is what I see:

I've seen Dusty wrestle several times over the past few years. As long as it's kept simple, he'll have no problems. He's not a completely broken-down crip like Snuka, and his opponent is a HELL of a lot more talented than Deuce or Domino (remember the classics he had with a similarly out-of-shape retiree in one Mick Foley?). Plus, it's a hardcore bullrope thingie, all he has to do is fire off a few Bionic elbows, get hit in the head with the cowbell and bleed a lot, and then get RKOd for the finish.

Well, considering the state of Rey's knees, all anyone would have to do is kick him in the leg and it'd be all over. But to say that a little guy can't beat a big guy? You haven't seen many fights between trained martial artists who happen to be small, and a much larger opponent, have you? As long as it's not some 4th Grade bully on the playground picking on a 1st Grade victim, smaller guys beat bigger opponents all the time.

Agreed. Somewhat like Vince did way back in the day; juice to get the body, and then work out all the time to keep it as big as possible once you're forced off the "assistance". Doesn't work that way. To keep the juice body, you have to keep juicing. Also, you can't just take steroids and grow. You also STILL have to work out and lift weights like a maniac. Steroids is kinda like the Dark Side: "Quicker, easier, more seductive". Mecca, why are you so damned insistent that Cena is natural? He sure as hell looks like he's getting some extra supplements in his diet.

You wanna see what a natural, non-steroid body looks like? Here, watch the difference: Steroids No Steroids Now, of those two pictures, which one resembles this one more?

How do you know? You tested them yourself? Everyone from New Jack to Sandman to fucking Tammy Sytch has heavily roided at some point or another. You can't say "this person's not using" just by looking at them.

Also, please PLEASE remember that steroids aren't just about looks. I'd say literally half their use to wrestlers is in its healing powers. And I almost really do mean POWERS~!. Anyone here ever used any sort of prescription-strength steroid for medicinal purposes? That shit can turn your immune system to X-Men speed in no time.

The end. If you don't actually work in the fashion industry, there's no reason not to buy plain cheap clothes from Walmart. (Unless you object to the fact that it's made by crippled little kids in sweatshops, and if you do you're a commie phag.)

I know exactly what you mean... uh... "guy who I've known for like five years but can't remember his real name"wasmurdered.

Shit like this is why, if I were ever caught in a bigass battle for some reason, I would politely decline anyone offering me grenades. "Okay, pull the pin and throw it... um, hey, is that how it's supposed" BOOM.

Ah, this round is much more interesting. Captain America vs. Beast Superpowers or not, at the end of the day, Beast is a glorified science nerd while Cap has always been a soldier. Batman vs. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) Real tough call, but Batman would figure out the yellow thing. (Or is it "the wood thing"? I can't remember) Silver Surfer vs. Moon Knight How the fuck did Moon Knight last this long? Hulk vs. Wolverine This battle could go on for goddamned ever. Neither one of these guys can really hurt the other one; Hulk's skin is clawproof, and Wolverine's skeleton can't be smashed. But eventually Hulk would grab Logan and toss him into the next county, then go wander off into the woods, transform back into Banner, and then a furious Logan would run up and chop Bruce's head off while he slept. Kyle Rayner vs. Phoenix PHOENIX SMASH. Spider-Man vs. Nightwing It looks like a stalemate until Spidey hits a Yo Mama joke. Little orphan bastard Nightwing breaks down crying. Much webbing ensues. Thor vs. Lobo I flipped a coin. (Is Lobo resistant to magic?) Black Panther vs. Daredevil Panther always seemed like Murdock's bitch in the more recent comics. Wonder Woman vs. Multiple Man vs. Archangel Multiple Man multiplies, so WW and AA just fly away to avoid him. Then WW breaks AA's neck with one punch.

That would be "T-Bird", not Funboy (he was the heroin addict who was killed in the girl's mom's apartment). Damn, there's an old chestnut. The dying guy talking to his wife and newborn child over the phone, with his last breaths, while they don't know he's dying, in A Better Tomorrow II. (Now THAT'S how you do a tough guy's eulogy to his own kid!)

Yep, that's one of the things that made me like the guy the very first time I saw him wrestle. He's been doing that since his very first match. You don't see too much of that sort of thing these days other than in Japan. Over the years they've done a lot of that sort of thing. I've never understood why we don't see more of it in the United States. Laziness and lack of thinking. Young rookie wrestlers have spent their lives watching matches where a wrestler who gets picked up for a move typically just passively accepts his fate. Maybe shakes his head and says "no!" before he gets slammed, if he's a real ring general. So most of them never even think about how they'd be fighting like hell to escape, if this situation were real. Someone explain to me: how did Super Crazy NOT win the stupid countdown thing last week? He had the shortest match, by far.

I would argue the WWE indirectly makes wrestlers take steroids. No, Vince isn't forcing them down your throat, but you know he likes to push guys that look like the Incredible Hulk so people are going to do roids to get that look, and then the non-roiding guy who is competing for a spot with those guys will see that and have no choice but to get on 'roids to keep up. Vince is the most powerful man in wrestling. Period. Nobody else pushed a roster full of bodybuilders before him. Yet EVERYBODY else pushes rosters full of bodybuilders now. He started the whole trend of conditioning the audience to expect giant mutant musclehead freaks whenever they hear the words "pro wrestling" (oops, "sports entertainment", my bad). Look at TNA, for example. They've only had 3 world champions who weren't already known as WWE guys first (AJ Styles, Sting, Abyss). Hell, even old ECW felt the roid craze: or are you gonna try to tell me that Shane Douglas was all natural, and that his multiple injuries where a muscle ripped off the bone (commonly known as The Steroid Injury) were just coincedences? Point is, steroids weren't nearly such a large part of wrestling before Vincent Kennedy McMahon took charge of things. Now, you almost can't have a career without them.

You: "God exists." Me: "Oh yeah? Prove it." You: "Look back in the Bible, the proof is in there. I'm not going to bother dredging it up you you can try to skewer it. But it exists." Dude, you're the one arguing that Cena pops the ratings. If you want your argument to be taken seriously, present sources for your facts. Just saying "look in the older threads" doesn't help when there are almost twenty thousand older threads in this folder. Not very often, granted. Only occasionally with guys like Kurt Painpill, Eddy Cardio, and Fucking Murderer. But what I'm trying to get at is, most champions should have a reason why they're champion. Tell me a story in that ring. Tell me why Cena wins all his matches. They don't do that now, for the most part. Far as I can tell, Cena just has a Hogan-like ability to switch off all the pain receptors in his body, and every other wrestler in the company has a hypnotic compulsion to quickly tap out to a glorified rear chinlock. I mean, seriously, every successful champion has a reason and a motivation in their ring psychology as to how and why they win. With Austin, it was that he could just the toughest SOB walking the earth, plus the best finisher ever. With the unfortunate guys I named above, it was that they could just plain out-wrestle you. With Big Show, it was that he was freakin' huge. With Undertaker, it was that he was freakin' huge and freakin' dead. With Rock... uh... okay, here the analogy breaks down a little, but Rock was portrayed as some kind of Hollywood god long before he ever made a movie, like he was above all the rest of us mere mortals. But Cena? Um... he DEFIES THE ODDS~! and apparently getting sloppily dropped from a fireman's carry is enough to pin anyone in the world.

1. Got any numbers or sources on that? 2. If you do, I'll explain in detail why they could be misleading. Which leads me to wonder why different types of people seem to show up for the TV tapings than for the house shows. (And don't say "it's to have a chance to get shown on tv", even the dumbest mark knows that if you're anywhere past the second row the cameras don't catch you.)

Who says they're paying to see him at all? Maybe they're like me, they're just paying to see wrestling, and they hate that this one guy who sucks at it is presented as supposedly being the best. I doubt that anyone (besides a few old diehard ECW fans) would intentionally pay to watch something that they dislike.

I respectfully disagree. Especially the Mania match; ten times better than the main event. Same here. Although their first match was by far the best one they had, the rematches just couldn't live up. Hmmm... kinda like Angle's awesome first match and then disappointing rematches with Austin, Brock, and various others.

Yes, Cena is different. Who among those other guys you named REGULARLY got booed out of the building? Not like every once in a while like even Hulk got, but in half the fucking towns the visit, like Cena does? I'd say a lot bigger percentage of the fanbase hates him than hated those other guys.

Then I plain suck, because 1.Deep Impact already did an identical scene, and 2.I just sat there wondering "Isn't he taking an awfully long time to push the damn button? The asteroid's almost here, asshole, quit whining to Liv and do it already!"

Having known several TNA lower-carders, believe me, that low morale is true, it's DAMN true.