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You weren't really parking there. She = cunt.

Hmm. You may have a point there. Whatever faults Batman and Robin might have, and they are legion, at least "and co-starring Rob Schneider!" was not among them. Still, my basic point stands. I'm mildly shocked that in a thread about the best Batman movie ever, we have someone very seriously defending the worst Batman movie ever. Well, not including the old serials from the 40s which probably none of us have ever seen anyway.

Actually, it's happened before. I am a nerd, and easily congregate with others of my species.

YES Absolutely. Infinitely worse. A godawful piece of shit. My easy go-to answer if anyone ever asks me what the worst comic book movie of all time was. And you're in the far minority in this argument. Checking around online: at rottentomatoes, 89's Batman gets a score of 69%, while Batman and Robin racks up an impressive 12%. On IMDB: Burton = 7.6/10, Schumacher = 3.5. Batman broke box office records with over $250 million in domestic ticket grosses; Batman and Robin lost money, only taking in a bit over $100 million, and if you adjust the difference in inflation between 1989 and 1997 the difference between the two is even greater. Batman was so successful that it started a whole new movie franchise; Batman and Robin was such a universally hated bomb that it killed that previously-successful franchise for several years.

When did I ever say I hold the first one in high regard? Especially when in the post right before yours I said I liked its sequel better? Yes, I have seen the 89 Batman in the last five years. Specifically, about three years ago. I also saw Batman and Robin last night. It was a fucking horrible piece of shit with absolutely no redeeming value and not one, not one moment which actually entertained me in any way. It wasn't even "so bad it's good" in the Adam West vein, it was just goddamned worthless.

I do kinda see her point though in one area: the people who mock fat people. Huh? Isn't just being fat bad enough? Especially when the attackers seem to take this attitude like they're the first people to let this person know that they're overweight. Or when people seem to take others' fatness as some kind of personal insult. Getting outraged and disgusted because someone else is fat? That's up there near Jehova's Witnesses in terms of tirelessly spreading a message that will only piss off the people you're trying to preach to.

tell that to Eddie Murphy

I actually liked Returns better than the first Batman. I really liked the Batman/Catwoman love/hate relationship, and Michelle Pfeiffer's performance as Selina was awesome. Plus, Christopher Walken. The only thing I really hated about the movie was their vision for the Penguin; which was unfortunate, considering he got more screentime than any other character. Well yeah, that's what happens when you look for a Batman anthology on the very week that the most successful Batman movie of all time comes out. You're completely fucking insane. Batman and Robin was quite possibly the single worst comic book adaptation of all time.

If you're expecting a conclusion to the series, you'll be disappointed. There isn't one. It's mostly a standalone movie. Sometimes preview screenings will be announced in certain newspapers. You just gotta go to some business which is giving out the tickets and pick up your passes, then go the night of the screening and probably wait in line for a while.

I doubt it would work unless the guy in the half is significantly larger and stronger than the guy applying the move. Being hung upside down and folder in half like that, you've got pretty much zero leverage to push with your hands like that.

In terms of wrestling talent, I'd put Sky in the bottom half. Gail and Roxxi are easily better than her. ODB, depends, she's not always consistent. Kong is so much better than just about every other girl on the roster that it's awe-inspiring. Christy Hemme makes the best punching bag for jobber duty. Jacqueline can still go when she feels like it, though she rarely gets the chance, though since she is past 40 and all I don't blame her for not killing herself out there. Meanwhile, Velvet just stands out a little since she's better than her partner.

Meh. He didn't say ich ben ein berliner. Fail.

No. I generally agree that the booking was stupid and Taylor is being overpushed. But, NO.

Pics or it didn't happen. EDIT: the first site has taken them down, but gorezone's are still up. Agreed, not impressed. Jason is still in the same old hockey mask and an acceptably filthy t-shirt, but he appears to now have long hair, a trenchcoat, and leather pants. I guess they wanted to make the repugnant murderer more stylish and hip for the young crowd.

I don't understand all the hate for Superman Returns. Yes, the two leads were too young and rather bland, and the movie was a bit slow. But that's pretty much the only things I can really complain about. It had a few truly spectaculer setpieces, most notably the one with the rocket plane: that was one of the few times in movie history where a guy with super-strength was treated somewhat realistically in what he could do; he couldn't just grab the plane and stop it, since whatever part he grabbed would just get torn off. It also had a nice supporting cast, Frank Langella was a perfect Perry White. Hell, for my money it had a better main villain than Batman Begins did; Spacey's Luthor >>>>> Neeson's Al Ghul. So in the end "it wasn't completely awesome" is about the strongest criticism I can throw its way.

Sure there are. Some writers make a running joke out of the number of similarly-attired modern sorcerors in the DC canon. One of them even got his own major motion picture. Or don't you remember the blond trenchcoat-wearing Englishman being played by brunette business-suited Keanu Reeves?

That's "Kingpin shouldn't be black" nitpicky. The Potter movies have specialized in casting the biggest British stars as the teachers, and I can't think of any big-name Englishmen who look like Danny Devito. Broadbent is indeed old and fat, which is really all the part needs. Ginny Weasely wasn't written as having Bruce Campbell's chin, either, some things you just can't help.

Ugh. I've tried the chewing tobacco before, and never seen the appeal. A lot of southern wrestlers do the shit, so I've been peer pressured into it a couple times, although most never had to pressure me too hard to try some new chemical. I never got the tiniest worthwhile sensation off it, just felt like I was sucking on something incredibly spicy yet blandly tasteless. Plus you have to have the spitty cup, which is a hundred kinds of white trash. It was very yucky. And this is coming from someone who will enthusiastically take a very similar product, set it on fire, and inhale the carcinogenic result into my lungs with much pleasure.

He may be a bit old for that now. Nite Owl was supposed to be middle-aged, around forty, and Aykroyd's getting close to sixty, and he ain't exactly a Harrison Ford in terms of aging gracefully. But a decade ago, yeah, I could see it. I didn't know he had all that House Of Blues money, kinda explains why he only seems to do little cameo parts nowadays.

All this stuff really depends on how you define an ECW "original". Rey Misterio and Chris Jericho both worked there before they came to the WWE, does that count? Meanwhile, Stevie has actually spent more years working for WWE than he did for ECW, so is his street cred still intact? Sandman is a Truther? This is a feeling not entirely unlike finding out that Santa Claus isn't real.

The line to kick Mr. Gingold in the nards starts behind me.

He said he asked for it himself, repeatedly, mostly because he hated the travel schedule.

Yeah. Most. Anybody seen Dan Aykroyd at the soup kitchen lately?

I... did not think it was awesome. Check my review at the Pit for many reasons why.

Please don't go down this incredibly misogynistic road. "All girls really wanna be raped." Jesus almighty.