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And how is that wrong? It wouldn't change anything about the racism or the double standard at work in the town, and the kids might've been arrested on some different charge a week later, but they wouldn't have been arrested for that particular incident if they'd never kicked dude's ass. Ripper, nobody's saying the extra tacked-on charges are legit, or that trying them as adults was a good idea, or that sneakers are deadly weapons, or that the sentencing was anything but bullshit. I'm just saying it's inaccurate to say that the black guys who did the beating are 100% innocent victims who did nothing to cause any of this.
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Probably no trouble. The WWE has always quietly tolerated its guys taking approved bookings on certain indy shows even if they're on the same card with wrestlers from a competing company: that one Memphis show from around 1994 where both Undertaker and Vader showed up comes to mind, not to mention the mostly forgotten Scoops: Breaking the Barrier show. Lawler does it all the time, working random indy guys or even direct competitors like Terry Taylor back in 1999. Also, the UWF (for whatever reason, maybe Sadler just pays more) has no trouble booking whoever the hell they feel like using; it's the only wrestling show that Lita has worked since she quit. So I doubt JBL will be in any sort of trouble, especially since 1.he's an office favorite and 2.it's not like he was losing a match to TNA guys, his "opponent" in the deal was Sgt. Slaughter.
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If a group of them discover one of the cops breaking the law, induce a valid citizen's arrest, and then have to subdue the struggling suspect because he won't stop resisting, sure.
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Personally I think if anyone beats up another human being for any reason other than obvious self-defense, they should see at least a little jail time. Just not a few decades' worth.
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Summerslam '98. Probably a few others, but not many. So you didn't see his feud with DDP? Undertaker is imho a vastly underrated in-ring performer in terms of his sheer talent. The guy can simply do things that nobody else his size can, and moves with quickness and precision that's utterly unheard-of in a man who's 6'10". Compare him for example to Kevin Nash, who's the same size. The problem comes in the booking. Plain and simple, Undertaker doesn't NEED to be "kept strong", he'll stay over regardless. But still the company spends more time and effort in a Sisyphian attempt to consistently push him than it does on damn near anyone else. Hell, even HHH didn't get his return match on PPV to be slotted in at the main event for no particular reason, since Mark Henry sure as hell wasn't going to guarantee a classic. Taker also compounds the problem by not wanting to job to practically anyone and typically refusing to sell much for opponents that either aren't his friends or just aren't tall enough. I don't know why, since the series he had with Mankind were some of his best matches ever, and that involved taking a new guy in his first run with the company and actually putting him over. Shame he's felt little-to-no compunction to ever really do so again.
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Getting into fights isn't the nature of your average student. Simple statistics show that. There were plenty of times in high school where I wanted to freakin' kill somebody, but I exercised my self-control and never once got in a fight. Sure, attacking someone who's calling you names is a natural emotional response, but if the Six (or the Three or Four who actually did it anyway) had never put their hands on the idiot, they'd never have given the good ol' boys an excuse to lock them away in the first place. Of course, if this had never happened then the town wouldn't have received all the media attention it has and the current protests and such against the racism there might not have ever occured. That's just the weirdness of life. No man, nobody is trying to justify this. Nobody is saying that the sentences are deserved. Nobody is saying that anything about this isn't totally fucked up. We're just trying to point out that nobody in this case is completely innocent, that's it's not a black-&-white matter (pun kinda intended) in which it's just Oppressors vs. Victims and nothing else. It's not that simple, nothing in reality is.
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Van Halen
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What's right about it? Nothing. Just trying to say, in a community THAT racist where the law is so clearly biased against black people to provide all those examples you cited, that a dark-skinned person deciding to physically attack a light-skinned one in front of witnesses clearly hasn't considered all the possible long-term consequences of their actions.
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If you're a trial attorney, how do you literally make no effort whatsoever on the behalf of your client in court and still keep your job?
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What's amazing is how well the brainwashing campaign worked. It's amazing the number of people, even smarks, who have no idea that Hogan had repeatedly body-slammed Andre on several occasions in the past.
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Fuck that, those people made CHYNA look perfectly decent. So either they're such miracle workers that they can believably "airbrush" (really it's all computer editing these days) stuff right out of existence... or Chyna's clenis sprouted in just the couple years between her last PB shoot and her sex tape.
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Indy wrestlers need to tone it down a notch
Jingus replied to theintensifier's topic in General Wrestling
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The fan fest looks decent enough, but man that "PPV" looks pretty bad. Put it this way: the top two matches are 1.a match that was already on TNA ppv a couple months back (Steiners/3D), and 2.a match that drove away audiences on multiple occasions through the years (Nash/Sid). Well, except this: I might pay to see that one.
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Plus, when the cops are arresting you, you don't have the right to be allowed to just get up and walk out, no matter how nicely you ask. To echo Ripper, yeah, what the fuck is worth l'ing about with discussing the factual laws on the books and how they relate to police safety?
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Yep. Yep. Not possible.
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It wasn't an unlawful arrest. 1. The guy lied on the way into the building to evade the screening process for all the questions. 2. He apparently jumped up, ran down the aisle, and literally grabbed a microphone out of someone else's hands. Legally speaking, that's assault and theft right there. 3. Even after Kerry unwisely answered the dude's first question, he refused to yield the floor. When they cut his mic, he started screaming. Public disturbance. The police had every right and duty to detain and remove him at this point. 4. When the police tried to escort him out, he started resisting. You DO NOT RESIST ARREST. Those cases you quoted (which I've never heard of before, how old are they?) are all fine and good in theory, but in the real world if someone resists arrest the police are legally obligated to consider their own safety first and the suspect's as secondary. 5. He started shoving the cops around. That's assault on an officer, and it's a serious felony. Technically speaking they could've shot the guy at that point, and quite easily been exonerated for it later. 6. The dude continued resisting in an aggressive manner. This is what invalidates the "they should've just taken him outside" argument, because at that point it's standard police policy to subdue the offender into submission, it takes priority over other considerations. 7. Even after they had him on the ground, he STILL kept struggling and disobeying the orders he was being given. Yes, it IS a crime to not peacefully let the officer put the cuffs around your wrists. 8. Even after THAT, they didn't just tase him outta nowhere. They still gave him a verbal warning that they'd employ the taser if he didn't stop resisting. They told him that plain as day. If a cop says "Stop or I'll shoot", if you don't stop, what follows is YOUR fault, not the police's. That's the law, period. 9. As for the inciting a riot charge, yeah, that's bullshit since it's clear he was just a lone nut. But the fact that the police said that he's being arrested for inciting a riot is immaterial. It does not, as you claim, constitute an illegal arrest. Cops can say whatever the hell they want during an arrest, as long as they get the Miranda rights in there. A cop can grab a purse-snatcher and say he's arresting him for being a terrorist, it doesn't matter. Only the actual charges that are officially filed on paper are what count. So, was using a taser necessary? Maybe, maybe not. But it wasn't illegal.
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He wasn't handcuffed when they tasred him. That's part of why they did it, he refused to put his hands back so they could cuff him, and still kept struggling and wouldn't stay still. Have been tasered. It'd be completely appropriate for this idiot. It's really not as big a deal as lots of people would have you believe. My brother and his other cop/security/military buddies used to get drunk and zap each other all the time. Used to be a running rib in locker rooms too when this one guy used a stun gun for a gimmick, you had to watch out for someone sneaking up behind you and lighting you up. Unless you've got really serious health problems like a heart defect that requires a pacemaker, a taser doesn't do any permanent damage at all.
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Since the official diagnosis was accidental overdose relating to the pain meds she was taking legitimately for her horribly fucked-up spine, what would rehab have supposed to help?
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100. Enigma. That's all I need to say.
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Because slamming someone face-first onto the ground, clubbing them with a nightstick, or any of the other old cop standards are much more likely to cause permanent damage than a taser. Sure, there are people out there with heart conditions and such who could get flatlined, but it's a pretty small number, and most violent criminals tend to be relatively young and healthy people. Tasers really do represent progress, it's just sometimes questionable whether their use was necessary in specific cases like this.
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Hey, stop bagging on Jimmy Snuka!
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Indy wrestlers need to tone it down a notch
Jingus replied to theintensifier's topic in General Wrestling
Which would kind of make sense, because that's not the first time I heard the "Ong grabbed on" version, and it's way easier to get fucked up doing that on a backdrop rather than on a spinebuster/tree slam, where grabbing on would most likely cause your feet and ass to land on the mat before the rest of you. But the fansite still insists that the move is identical to a backdrop in every way, except for the puzzling part where the guy is supposed to land face-down. The extra midair flip is the only thing I can think of which would accomplish that, and it's sure as hell not something that any concussed rookie should've been trying. -
Matt Hardy is willing to publicly bitch about backstage dirty laundry. Taker "lives the gimmick".
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Wasn't entirely bad. I just ran across an old Raw from that time with RVD vs. Benoit and Flair vs. Rock, plus Coachman's infamous revelation that he sodomizes cows, and it was pretty fun. EDIT: the show was fun, that is. Not the sodomy.