Hunter's Torn Quad

Script for Impact on 1/3/08

I guess that kind of makes sense...all three of those faces had run-ins with the York Foundation. Cage matches on WCW TV used to be somewhat common in the late '80s/early '90s. The set up for the match was the York Foundation beating Rhodes, Z-Man and Josh for the Six-Man titles when Josh let his friendship for Rich get in the way of beating the Foundation and the Foundation used that to steal the titles. The match itself was pretty good stuff, complete with post-match beatdown and Big Josh getting juice.

1. THIS IS WAR! NONSTOP RISING! Christian Cage, AJ Styles & Petey Williams vs. Milano Collection AT, Minoru & Prince Devitt http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=74QsCckRZTc http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4zH5hUGyU 2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title Match: Wataru Inoue © vs. Christopher Daniels http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RjTEcJCVql8 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaots3aEoaM 3. Japanese Muscle Monster vs. The American Monster: Manabu Nakanishi vs. Abyss http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=i8fP_oZHR9Q 4. NEW JAPAN vs. The Alliance GROUND ZERO: Takashi Iizuka, Koji Kanemoto, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Masato Tanaka, Tatsuhito Takaiwa, Yutaka Yoshie & Katsushi Takemura http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4fGoji9aLWY http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=81GbRYvqZWA 5. GET THE TABLE! GET THE HIGHEST! - Hardcore Match: Togi Makabe & Toru Yano vs. Brother Ray & Brother Devon http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HVeU3J6RfHg http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=hufAWSRM2FA 6. ONE NIGHT STAND : LEGEND vs. VBH (GBH + Voodoo Murders): Riki Choshu, Masahiro Chono, Super Strong Machine, Jushin Thunder Liger & AKIRA vs. Jado, Gedo, TARU, Shuji Kondo & "brother" YASSHI http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gtjw_NhEuxc 7. Generation of Chaos: Great Muta vs. Hirooki Goto http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ijfND2a3EC8 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y30e2F6u0to http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2qZviYpts 8. IWGP Tag Team Title Match: Giant Bernard & Travis Tomko © vs. Rick Steiner & Scott Steiner http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KWWoHmTy6os http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TCDpiSDgpbU http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=L97c8TW3kb4 9. Final Resolution: REAL vs. Justice: IWGP 3rd Belt: Kurt Angle © vs Yuji Nagata http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rUeM0IGyWF4 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=L97Nde1fltE http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rvHTihe1gys 10. IWGP Heavyweight Title Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi © vs. Shinsuke Nakamura http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-HTKS4-og http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3-sXdKuTYs http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7sB8sbHYAsE http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgeYSosKXk http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0DovB_x03to

Anyone looking forward to Bobby Lashley returning? WWE Magazine had his return date as December 7th, but who knows how accurate that is.

That might make people wary of going to the ground with Manvil.

From the latest Observer, a few rough estimates on TNA buy rates this year. The reason they're estimates is that the numbers are so small that they're not tracked closely: 36,000 for Destination X (Joe vs. Sting) and Bound For Glory (Sting vs. Angle) 35,000 for Turning Point (Joe vs. Angle) and Lockdown (Team Angle vs. Team Cage) 34,000 for Final Resolution (Joe vs. Angle) 27,000 for Genesis (Sting and Booker T vs. Angle and Nash) 26,000 for Hard Justice (Joe vs. Angle) 23,000 for Against All Odds (Angle vs. Cage) 22,000 for Slammiversary (King of the Mountain) 21,000 for Sacrifice (Angle vs. Sting vs. Cage) 17,000 for No Surrender (Angle vs. Abyss) 15,000 for Victory Road (Joe and Angle vs. Team 3D)

The theory that the fans won't feel so cheated out of not getting a finish if the babyface gets his hand raised.

The Lyoto/Sokoudjou and Sanchez/Palelei fights aside, this was an easy thumbs up. Guillard/Clementi was fun, but the non-fight stuff was better. Liddell/Silva was balls out stuff, though it did take most of the first round for them to get going. And what more can be said about GSP's total domination of Matt Hughes for the second straight fight? This was a really good PPV to end the year on for the UFC.

ONGOING TNA IMPACT SPOILERS by Alex Hernandez - Xplosion: Petey Williams defeated Sonay Dutt. - Judas Mesias defeated Senshi, I believe for Impact, but it may be for Xplosion. - Elix Skipper defeated Samoa Joe when Joe was disqualified for refusing to stop his attack on Elix. Joe then tried to cut a promo but they cut his mic off. - Awesome Kong won a Knockout Christmas Street Fight. The match included all of the Knockouts. - The Motor City Machine Guns & Jay Lethal defeated Team 3D & Johnny Devine in a pole match. There were two poles, one with a future Tables match and the other was a future Ultimate X match. The Motor City Machine Guns won, and got an Ultimate X match. - Rellik defeated Black Reign, Abyss and Shark Boy in a Hardcore match. - All of the matches tonight have a Christmas theme to them. - Kaz defeated AJ Styles in a Ladder match. The loser had to wear a reindeer suit. - LAX, Scott Steiner & Booker T defeated Lance Hoyt, Jimmy Rave, James Storm & Robert Roode in a Six Sides Of Steel cage match

In what universe could JBL, Jericho, Punk, Rey or Matt Hardy conceivably win the upcoming Rumble? Sure, the winner could lose his title shot, but that doesn't mean logic and common sense need be thrown out the window. Why couldn't any of them win this Rumble? JBL is probably working with Jericho at WM or going into WM, and that's a strong midcard program, that doesn't need to drag down the World title picture. Punk is ECW, so enough said. Rey had his sympathy run, and is probably sticking with MVP for a while. And Matt Hardy? Only one Hardy has a chance of ever winning the Rumble, and that Hardy has a singles match that night. See that's why it doesn't make logic or common sense to you on why those people can't win the rumble match, because your looking at it as a smart fan. Don't look at it that way, look at it as a general fan. The Royal Rumble match is normally set up as a match anyone can possibly win. So as a general fan, your suppose to see it as anyone has a chance to win the Rumble. Hell if Mysterio can win it, why not Matt Hardy? But instead, your looking at it as a internet smart fan and since HHH is most likely going to be in it, odds are your 95% sure he'll win it. The question was asked from the perspective of a smart fan, and so was the answer, which is why it made no sense. You're also wrong about your assumption on what odds I think HHH has of winning the Rumble. That's alright, I'll say your wrong about the Rey/MVP program going to Wrestlemania. I'll bet you that we'll get a Matt Hardy/MVP feud starting back from where they left off. I don't think Rey/MVP is going to Wrestlemania. It'll keep going long enough to fill time until Matt Hardy comes back.

That'll get her more brownie points right now than attacking Rena.

In what universe could JBL, Jericho, Punk, Rey or Matt Hardy conceivably win the upcoming Rumble? Sure, the winner could lose his title shot, but that doesn't mean logic and common sense need be thrown out the window. Why couldn't any of them win this Rumble? JBL is probably working with Jericho at WM or going into WM, and that's a strong midcard program, that doesn't need to drag down the World title picture. Punk is ECW, so enough said. Rey had his sympathy run, and is probably sticking with MVP for a while. And Matt Hardy? Only one Hardy has a chance of ever winning the Rumble, and that Hardy has a singles match that night. See that's why it doesn't make logic or common sense to you on why those people can't win the rumble match, because your looking at it as a smart fan. Don't look at it that way, look at it as a general fan. The Royal Rumble match is normally set up as a match anyone can possibly win. So as a general fan, your suppose to see it as anyone has a chance to win the Rumble. Hell if Mysterio can win it, why not Matt Hardy? But instead, your looking at it as a internet smart fan and since HHH is most likely going to be in it, odds are your 95% sure he'll win it. The question was asked from the perspective of a smart fan, and so was the answer, which is why it made no sense. You're also wrong about your assumption on what odds I think HHH has of winning the Rumble.

In what universe could JBL, Jericho, Punk, Rey or Matt Hardy conceivably win the upcoming Rumble? Sure, the winner could lose his title shot, but that doesn't mean logic and common sense need be thrown out the window. Why couldn't any of them win this Rumble? JBL is probably working with Jericho at WM or going into WM, and that's a strong midcard program, that doesn't need to drag down the World title picture. Punk is ECW, so enough said. Rey had his sympathy run, and is probably sticking with MVP for a while. And Matt Hardy? Only one Hardy has a chance of ever winning the Rumble, and that Hardy has a singles match that night.

This got a chuckle out of me. It's from PWI: In what universe could JBL, Jericho, Punk, Rey or Matt Hardy conceivably win the upcoming Rumble? Sure, the winner could lose his title shot, but that doesn't mean logic and common sense need be thrown out the window.

Heh. Apparently, it wasn't really Rena Mero/Lesnar who made the original posts, so Sunny looks even more foolish.

You do post everything negative about TNA and ignore postive things (albeit they are to and far between) and thats fine. Actually, I don't ignore the positive things. I've always praised the generally strong in-ring efforts, and whenever the booking mistakes get really crazy, I make a point to bring up the ring work as something positive that unfortunately has to try and overcome that booking. You don't like TNA and hate Russo, thats your progative. I don't dislike TNA as much as I find it frustrating. I want to like TNA as a whole, and while there are some things to like about TNA, the promotion as a whole is just maddeningly frustrating. As for hating Russo, wrong again. It's not worth hating anyone so utterly clueless and inept. But I don't post everything bad about the company and chortle at the news even if it isn't that funny/bad. I just post the news as it comes out. Don't blame me if it's either news that's bad or news that makes you shake your head at the people running the company. And I'm not a big fan of newsletters smarky comments about any fed really. I just think some of them are unjust and really unfunny. I understand it's an easy out, but don't shoot the messenger. I think everyone wants TNA to succeed, but when they continuously make one blunder after the other, especially when so many in TNA were part of WCW when that company was making those same mistakes, it's hard for all but the die-hard of die-hard TNA fans not to throw their hands up in the air. A few segments aside, I agree. The Awesome Kong-Gail Kim storyline has managed to stand out and be something that people can really get into.

Oldskool, have you got the latest WMMA patch that was released today? I tried TEW '07 using the default data. I played as the SWF, which is the Cornellverse WWE, and I've booked three shows so far; two TV's and a PPV. It was fun. My first TV main event was a six-man tag, with a Main Eventer, an Upper Midcarder and a Midcarder on each team. I was the babyface midcarder, and did the clean job to the heel World champion. The main event of the PPV was a four-way match with two heels and two babyface for the World title, so the main event of the second TV show, and last one before the PPV, saw the two heels team up to take on the two babyfaces. The babyfaces won by DQ but were laid out by the heels, and then the heel champion turned on his partner and was the only man standing when the show ended.

You may commence howling with laughter...now.

Gorilla was fine up until around 1990, but then he went downhill really badly. I don't think people hated Gorilla because of who he worked for; if that was the case, then people would have hated Jesse Ventura, and he got heavy praise for his heel commentator role. What I hated about Gorilla was when a babyface was in a submission hold, he'd either talk about how he's never seen someone give up in that hold or how the babyface was never going to submit, which turned it from a potentially match winning hold to a rest hold that people shouldn't get worried about. It killed the drama of the match.

You've got to laugh when people get overly defensive.

I think the only reason Cornette stays with TNA is it gives him a reason to get out of the house and have something to do.

I see none of that occurring, with the possible exception of VKM leaving, which will probably happen as soon as they're contractually able to. I think TNA in 2008 will be the TNA of 2007, with a hardworking crew of wrestlers and an incompetent creative team. The ratings will stay the same, with minor fluctuations up and down that people will get far too exited over, and PPV buys will slide a little, as the nonsensical booking will detract from the quality of the matches. They'll hire every WWE castoff with any kind of name value, and no matter who they get, they'll be just another midcard geek in less than a month. I'll be stunned if, in 12 months time, TNA have made any progress whatsoever, in either direction.