Hunter's Torn Quad

There's so much spinning going on here, some people are going to screw themselves into the ground.

Getting a deal on Spike TV Getting Spike to expand their timeslot to two hours Doing well in the ratings DVD's in national chains International tv deals. Going into new markets for PPV and drawing well Toy deal Video game on the way Making women's wrestling in America actually mean something for the first time in a long time. Introducing us to the comic genius that is Kevin Nash Yeah, your right. They've done nothing at all. Sure, on the surface, they've done a lot, and I never said otherwise. But if you actually look a little closer, while they've done a lot, they've done nothing with it. They've never made a dime in profit, and with their primary revenue source, PPV buys, showing no sign of increasing a lot above their baseline of 20,000-25,000 buys, they don't look like they'll be making money any time soon. Surviving is nice, but making money is nicer.

As a ppv seller, it sucks. There's no positive way to spin that and I didn't say there was. However, just because they're ppv sales are low, should we dismiss everything else they've accomplished? What have they accomplished? Sure, they've survived when nobody thought they would, and are on Spike in prime time, but they're also doing 20,000 PPV buys a month which is around the same number of buys they were totaling a month with the weekly PPV's. That was five years ago. Way to go, TNA.

There's a positive way to spin the fact that even with around a million viewers a week for Impact, they only over get around 20,000 of them to buy their PPV's every month?

Jim Cornette and the Heavenly Bodies invade WCW This is the unedited version that aired on SMW TV.

The story was they considered Butterbean nothing more than a gimmick, and thought Gunn was tough enough to knock him out. As for Bob Sapp, WWE wanted to bring him in for the spot Bobby Lashley wound up getting, but K-1 stepped in to block it, because they were in the midst of a contract dispute with Sapp at the time.

Hopefully the people that count take notice of this (I mean, I'm sure HHH has and is already pointing it out and finding the numbers for Jericho's segments). The only numbers I have at hand for Jericho are for his segment with Randy Orton on the 11/19 Raw, which gained 794,00 viewers. Interestingly, HHH vs. Umaga the week before, gained 89,000 viewers, which may be the weakest overrun gain of the year.

An interesting stat from this weeks Observer; the Ric Flair vs. Randy Orton match saw the audience grow by 1,205,000 viewers from start-to-finish.

In this week's Observer, Meltzer credits the reaction, or lack of one, to the TNA fans seeing the old guys and/or former WWE names as the real stars. There's also a story that Joe suggested Homicide for the spot, but was told Homicide wasn't over enough or good enough, and whether the story is true or not, Homicide thought it was and he was irate.

If Vince is annoyed as I think he'll be, he'll have to choices: blame the writers, or blame the ECW name which he resents anyway. Which do you think it'll be? He'll go for option three; write it up to ECW not being on its regular night.

This was a great show, with J-Roc/War Machine having, appropriately, a war, and Huerta/Guida having a legit FOTY. The TUF 6 final was totally one-sided, which was a bit of a disappointment, if only because I don't like Danzig. A great live special for UFC to end the year on Spike with.

I can see why a TNA fan would want to talk up even the most worthless of triumphs over WWE.

Why? Regular tv shows break the fourth wall all the time. Live tv has plenty of moment where people go off script. People have no problem understanding those incidents. So, what's so difficult to understand about Joe cutting a non scripted promo? Regular TV shows do a lot of things, but not all of them would fly on a wrestling show because wrestling is completely different animal. Even if Joe's promo was a shoot, has TNA done anything to suggest that it meant anything? Joe and Nash were teaming up on Impact like nothing happened, so if anyone thought it was a shoot, or wanted to think it was one, it's hard for them to do that anymore, and more importantly, it's hard for them to care. If the idea of this was to create an angle that comes across like something real, TNA have done their usual masterful job of failing miserably.

If I could ban people just for liking TNA, you wouldn't be here.

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I presume the winner of the BJ Penn vs. Joe Stevenson fights becomes the new lightweight champion?

Why would they run a match where the heel could gain legal possession of the belt? If the heels had won the match, Divine would have legal ownership of the belt. Where's the heat? Just because the babyfaces won and the heels stole the belt anyway, it doesn't make having the match any less stupid.

It's the fact that it was supposed to be a 'shoot', something going against the script, that would go over people's heads.

Why is a singles title on the line in a six-man match anyway?

What's with this line? Why is it hard to believe someone could be in such pain with only being in the business a few years? Most guys start popping pills early in their careers. It goes to show you how little some of the so called experts know. If he got hooked on pain pills, what he was likely talking about was the withdrawal, which is one of the worst things in the world. I should know because I went through it. Every square inch of your body hurts on top of hot chills. Its absolute misery. And many young people suffer from pain much more than normal due to a variety of reasons, so obviously that little smart ass remark shows they don't really have a clue what the fuck they are talking about in this regard. It's easy for someone who has never really hurt or suffered through pain and addiction to make light of others who do. I don't know how about addiction, but I do know Bryan's really been hurt and suffered through pain, what with being a wrestler and training all the time.

TNA IMPACT SPOILERS FROM ORLANDO; LADDER MATCH TAKES PLACE by Alex Hernandez Impact: - LAX (Homicide & Hernandez) defeated Rellik & Black Reign. After the match, the Rock & Rave Infection (Jimmy Rave & Lance Hoyt) attacked LAX. - ODB defeated Gail Kim in a non-title match. After the match, Awesome Kong came to the ring and they brawled with security breaking it up. - The Angle Alliance (Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Tomko) came to the ring and made an offer to Christian Cage and Robert Roode to join them, saying that they have until the end of the night to respond. - The Angle Alliance came to the ring and Christian & Roode came out. Roode quickly accepts the offer, but Christian bad mouths all of them. Then, he agrees to join, as long as he is the captain of the team. Angle accepts it and they shake hands. Samoa Joe, Kevin Nash, Kaz, Booker T and Eric Young then came out and challenge the five of them to a 10 man tag at Final Resolution, but Karen Angle says "let's do it tonight" leading to Sharmell and Karen having a cat fight. - Christopher Daniels defeated Senshi. Elix Skipper was the guest referee. Since Daniels won, he got the briefcase that Senshi had won in the "Feast Or Fired" match at Turning Point. Hermie Sadler did guest commentary for the match. - Team 3D (Brother Ray & Brother Devon) & Johnny Devine defeated Jay Lethal & The Motor City Machineguns (Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley) in a ladder match. It had another screwy finish. -Kevin Nash, Samoa Joe, Booker T, Kaz & Eric Young defeated Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Tomko & Robert Roode 10 Man Tag Team Match. After the match, Angle and Roode attacked Christian. Styles tried to stop the beat down, while Tomko just left them all in the ring. - Xplosion Match: Sonjay Dutt & Chris Harris defeated Voodoo Kin Mafia (Kip & BG James) - For those wondering, they didn't reveal the results of the "Feast Or Fired" briefcases to the live crowd.

From the latest F4W:

It's paraphrased from the latest Observer, as is the quote from The Mayhem site.