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Thats the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard. If a drunk driver kills your mom are you not allowed to say something about it unless you have protested every other driving infraction in history? Who gives a fuck. When it has something to do with you, then it matters. Cena calls people gay. Okay. So the fuck what. If a gay person came on here and said they were offended I wouldn't say it doesn't count unless you think how women are treated in the WWE offends you or what ever. THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE offended the person. Apparently you don't understand how being offended works. If someone punches you in the face for no reason, its unfortunate, and maybe you should say something about it, but its not going to hurt my face. If someone punches me in the face, then its my time to stand up and say something. Same thing with being offended. If a person says something that PERSONALLY insulted me, then it is going to be me to be offended. ANd I don't see anyone in the thread saying anyone else should be offended. They are stating if they were offended or not. And just for the record, I am more offended at how stupid Cena's gay jokes are. "You are so gay. Come felate me to show how gay you are. Then I am going to take off my shirt, get oiled up and come in there and rub up against you for 10-15 minutes."

Damn roy, that is long. I will respond, but I am not doing the quote thing because..well...fuck that quote thing. 1: After the finals, Larry Brown said something along the lines of "They were just the better team because they did the right things to be winners. There are just somethings you can't do and expect to win the championship. You can't have Allen missing practices during the year and expect to come in and beat this team." Yes, he basically drew the line from the team losing to Allen Iverson missing practices. He did the same thing again later and it led to the infamous "Pratice?" press conference from Iverson, only that time Brown suggested that he would have Allen traded. And you are right, Lynch was not the one I was thinking about in that finals. It was actually Jumaine Jones being a worthless slug and leaving players open for threes along with Aaron Mckie. What adjustments could be made? The back court of Raja Bell, Allen iverson and Eric Snow played incredibly well and the back court of Aaron Mckie/Iverson/Jones played horribly. The NATURAL adjustment is go with the lineup that works, but instead Brown stuck with the same lineup that allowed the Lakers back into that game one victory and they got smoked the rest of the way. Would they have won? Probably not, but that played a bigger part in them losing than Allen missing a practice 3 months earlier. 2: I always hate the "any analyst" line crap. Its always like a person is suggesting you are a idiot for seeing something different. And if you are saying that Amare didn't do anything while he was in there, I have to question if you watched at all. He put up better stats than Lamar Odem in 7 minutes against Australia. Which of course lead to brown to cut his minutes in the Lithuania game. He finally played good minutes in the Angola game had 9/6/and 3 blocks. And what the hell was Lebron James doing playing only 2-3 minutes. What moment did Stephon Marbury show that he deserved the most minutes out there? People keep talking about the team and blah blah blah, but bottomline, they didn't get smoked in the olypmics. They lost by 8points to argentina. Yes, they could have had a better team out there, but they could have also won with the one that they had. Traditional post players don't work in international play by the way because of the collapsing D(which is what they did against Duncan) which is why Amare's face up and quickness against the slower bigs was working so well when he did play. Lebrons size and ball handling at the 3 postition also was a next to impossible matchup for anyone in international play plus their length would have served them better in defending the 3 than the shorter guards (marbury and iverson). Brown simply didn't utilize the talent that he had, but not once did he discuss the possibility that maybe he could have done something different in his coaching approach. The ONLY reason the team lost in some tight games was because of the team that was put together, not coaching. Well, lets be honest here. Anytime your team can keep the game tight, it comes down to coaching and execution because they obviously had the talent to stick in there with the other teams. That USA team still could have won the gold by untilizing the freaks of nature in Lebron and Amare over there on the sideline, yet they just weren't used. 3: Yes, Brown pushed for that trade thinking that Rose would be a point forward to mirror Scottie Pippen in Chicago and get them over the hump. Walsh didn't even like the trade but Brown was king. The trade was disasterous and killed all of the team chemistry and led to no playoffs. Now I get what you are saying. you can't just praise Mark Jackson. But you don't get in the media and say your teams lack of effort is the reason for losing when you know fucking well that your bright idea didn't work and thats why the team was losing. This had nothing to do with motivation. This had everything to do with Brown saying "Don't blame me...its someone elses fault." Mike Woodson and Byron Scott didn't blame lack of effort for their disastorous years last year, and they didn't blame the lack of talent, they still motivated their teams despite dismal records and THAT is how a coach motivates a team. 4: Larry Brown came back from hip surgery last year and kept blasting his team for lack of effort. "I can't coach effort" "I never thought that I was going to have to coach effort" "They showed no effort out there" when Ben Wallace finally blasted back at Brown in the media for playing the starters too many minutes, plus the long practices and not using the bench (the BENCH which is one of the biggest reasons they won the championship the year before BTW). It came from the players mouth after he was tired of getting blamed for losses by a coach that could be doing something to prevent it. Its not me making it up. This is what THEY said. And with that finals with the Spurs. It wasn't Chauncy Billups calling players for ben wallace, the WORSE offensive player on the floor to get the ball in the post. That was coming from Brown. He put Prince on Duncan. He called horrible offensive sets in that game. Not once have you seen him shoulder even the slightest bit of blame for that loss. All he said is that "They played harder than us and wanted it more" which once again is a shot at the players on the court playing and pushing the blame. 5: There you go again with the "motivating players" crap. This is the NBA. You earn your spot. Brown came in and was going to start the vets no matter what. Crawford had a great preseason, Frye was obviously the best front court player they had and Lee was obviously deserving a starting spot but instead, brown did his "I don't play young players" crap that he always does. How is a guy knowing that he is out performing other guys ahead of him and they haven't done anything to justify their spot motiviating the players? If anything it is discouraging them. You are realistically making a argument for not putting your best team on the court? Thats not motivation. You coach and play to win, and that is not what was on the court to start the season for the Knicks. 6: Brown called a press conference to deny the Cavs rumours. That IS PUBLICALLY talking about it. It was rumors being reported, and he felt it was necessary to call a press conference when he should have been getting his team prepared for games in the playoffs. Since you went to the "any analyst" thing earlier, then you should remember basically every analyst critisizing him for creating a distraction for his players. He could have just gone to his players, told them its not true and to ignore it and moved on. Instead, he called a press conference. What I am saying about Brown is this. I don't think the guy is evil or anything, but he NEVER EVER admits that maybe he could have done something differently to win games. Its ALWAYS his players effort or they didn't execute the plays well enough or I don't have the talent, as talented young players sit on the bench. Every other coach I have ever seen recognizes that sometimes they didn't put their team in the best postition to win the game. Brown either doesn't believe that he has ever done it or has some issue where he has to look flawless and every situation. I hate it when players always pass the buck and I hate it when a coach does and that is what Larry Brown does. He only passes the buck.

Larry Brown will definately throw other people under the bus when the losing starts. When the Sixers lost to Lakers, it wasn't because he didn't adjust his lineup after game one or that he was intent on play George Lynch despite him missing practically the entire playoffs and not playing well in the finals. Its because Allen Iverson missed some practices earlier in the season. Team USA didn't lose last year because Amare Stoudimire, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade and Carmelo Anthony were sitting on the sidelines. Its because the selection committee didn't give him a team that could win and the players weren't adjusting to international play. When the Pacers missed the playoffs after that horrible Mark Jackson for Jalen Rose trade, it wasn't because the team lost their floor leader. Its because the team didn't work hard enough in the off season (then oddly they traded to get Jackson back and the team when to the West finals the next year) Detroit wasn't haveing a tough time in the regular season last year because Brown was playing the starters to death (like Ben Wallace all but said) it was because the players not playing hard. New York wasn't struggling more at the beganning of this year because all the young, energetic talented rookies were on the bench the majority of the game...NOOOO. It was because the team wasn't playing that hard. I can do this all day with Larry Brown. Nothing is EVER his fault when the team doesn't do well, and THAT doesn't rub management the right way. I wouldn't be suprised if alot of these job changes aren't exactly Larry wanting to leave moreso than the team telling him they are tired of it. Plus, TO has never openly talked about going to a nother team while in the playoffs with his team. At least he has THAT much respect.

^ This man understands the show.

You know, i think that Nash's improvement over the past few weeks has been alot because of Diaw. The bascially have a point guard playing center and powerforward for them. I saw his talent when he played in Atlanta, but apparently the Atlanta management didn't. The suns have been winning since they started playing their offense through Diaw and its taking some of the pressure off of nash and he looks alot more energized. The lineup of Amare, diaw, Marion, barbosa and Nash looks damn good for the playoffs.

Dear Lord did the suns put a whoopin on the Pacers last night. Boris Diaw is going to win most improved player. Seriously, the guy is dropping a near triple double a night.

This thread is hilarious. There is certainly no shortage of stupid people in here. With Y2Jerk and chaos in the front waving the retard flag.

Here is the point, that unless you are retarded you have to at least understand the principle. If there are women in a breast cancer support group where all of the women have lost a breast to the cancer, one of them can make a one tit joke and they would probably laugh. If I walked in and made a one tit joke, they would very likely be offended and should be. THEY are allowed to make the comment because in essence anything they say they are talking about themselves. OR you have a group of females that playfully call each other "bitch" from time to time. If one of you ladies here randomly call one of the girls bitch, you shouldn't be suprised if she beats your ass. Yes, they called each other bitch, but that doesn't give you the right to. I can make examples all day about instances that people can say something and it not be offensive and the same thing comes from someone else and it isn't interpreted the same way. Yes, black people call each other nigga/nigger/nig/nicca whatever. In no way does that open the doors for people of a race whose entire history of saying the word has been stemmed from hate to go all willy-nilly using it too. Noone is being overly sensitive or being whiney if they have a problem with white people freely using the N-word. All this "rappers say it all the time" crap....SO THE FUCK WHAT. Are YOU a fucking rapper? How's about listing the white rappers that say it? The precident of white people saying nigga isn't set in rap so stop using it as an example because it doesn't make any sense. Did I find what Vince said offensive? Not really, but the fact that a room full of rich white guys sat around and said "You know what would be funny? If Vince said NIGGA and then Booker was there." could understandably bother some people. Probably the same group that thought it would be cool and funny to have King call Booker a criminal with no daddy all the time, and cool and funny to have Booker steal a truck and say "Just like riding a bike" because...you know...all black people steal cars. So what I am saying here, agree, don't agree with it, but to act like anyone is a idiot or being over sensitive if they were offended is just plain parents were cousins stupid. Especially when you have never been called nigga/nigger/niggra out of hate from a white person, you are simply not in the place to tell someone else when something COMPLETELY based in racial hatred should be offensive to them or not. ... Unless you are Buffybeast. She doesn't count cause she hates black people.

I will never tire of looking at Corals tittys. Fuck you all that don't want to see them. I do.

white people telling black people that whites saying nigga isn't offensive and that they are being sensitive will NEVER stop being funny to me. But I am not allowed to comment on this because I am black.

You quoted it wrong. He said: I'm gonna kick that susa-a-bich Bison's ass SO HARD!!! Van Damme couldn't get son of a bitch out to save his life.

for the trillionth time, tupac and biggies deaths had nothing to do with their fued. Tupac got into a fight with a gangbanger and got shot. Suge had biggie killed because he is a bitch and Badboy was making too much money for his liking. This fued is two of the fakest muthafuckas on the planet going at each other. Game is more talented though and eating 50 alive. 50

The general Lee line made it for me.

You are.

There was no reason to pull Joey in this game. His only pick wasn't even his fault.

If I said that it would be 3 pages of complaining.

Its more than stripper-esque. It was a bunch of strippers. And this one girl that I went out with a few times but never got anywhere with. She is in the hottub with the two other girls. I completely disagree with saying they are "trying" to be sexy because their ass is hanging out. they are doing a damn good job of it.

The R. Kelly thing had me laughing everytime. I really liked the episode.

Goddamn you people for making me agree with Rant. You fucking fuckers.

P-poppin by Ludicris and Tip Drill by Nelly.

I don't know about that LIvingston part. That guy was great when he played last year.....WHEN he played. He is going to have to gain some weight to survive. The Suns fought hard against the Spurs, but with Barbosa going down, they just didn't have enough fire power to close out the win. I am still not worried.

Well, I have only picked USC to lose twice this year, and they won both (notre Dame and last night) both times I was ready to gloat and the fuckers won.

I think Czech just called you a slut.

Little Brother - The Minstrel Show with Common- Be coming in right behind that.

Alcohol, cocaine, and most painkillers will cause the same thing alot faster than most modern steroids. Now don't get what I am saying wrong. I am not calling steriods safe or saying that they are good for you because they obviously are not. But, being a alcoholic drug addict that works out all the time will kill you alot faster than anything these guys are taking these days.