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But the laws were on the books already in MD allowing this. OMG... FACTS~! The problem is, though, that the arguments used by the pro-gay marriage side can be used by a LARGE group of people. -=Mike Um so? They are two different arguments. They have nothing to do with each other. Someone that wants to marry their cousin is going to want to fight to marry their cousin, and if gays never asked to get married, the cousin marrying argument would be just as strong, as it is their own argument. A man asking to marry a 8 year old girl is not the same as a grown man wanting to marry another man. They are two different request, they are two different issues, and they are not related besides the fact that marry is there. This is the same thing. And as a matter of fact, the whole "Marriage is between one man and one woman" thing being pushed kind of makes the "I want to marry my cousin" argument STRONGER than the gay marriage argument. I mean, that IS one man and one woman.

In a perfect(or scary) world, things would be so because you said they are, but that ain't exactly the case. You are just spouting off that there are times that blacks attack whites and it would be a hate crime, but not listing these times because you are going off an assumption. And while we are at it, there are times that whites attack blacks that should be listed as a hate crime and it isn't. It holds just as much validity when I say it the other way as when you say it your way. I mean seriously, you can still hang your hat on the fact that interracial crime points to blacks commit more crimes against whites than whites do to blacks, but you and I both know that racially motivated crimes happen more from the whites to blacks and always has. And Hispanics are not counted as whites. They are counted as "other" or "multi-racial" as "Hispanic" covers quite a few races there.

Well, some people like to watch d and some don't. I personally enjoyed the Spurs/Nets finals and the Pacer/Pistons from last year. Although I found it funny when all the analyst were like "Its not good defense its just bad offense" about EVERY team that the Pistons played. Eventually you just had to admit they could play d.

If someone showed me away to actually destroy all of the credit agencies records and start everyone back over then I would quit this fucking job in a minute and do it.

I got nothing.

And the winner is.....Ripper Well, that's fucking bullshit. Nobody is going to report a black man committing a "hate" crime, because that black man will just turn around and say that he's being prosecuted by the white man. And Ripper will agree with him, call the white man a racist, and then come to the aid of the entire African-American race whenever they are clearly in the wrong, just because they're black and white people were involved. Reverse racism doesn't count as actual racism, I suppose. Shut the fuck up you retarded bitch. The day I do something like that, give me a call, but until then, shut up. here we go AGAIN taking the "people just don't report crimes on black people" bullshit. EVERY white on black crime is not called a hate crime and every black on white crime is not called a hate crime. When the basis for the attack, or the crime is clearly related to race, sexual orientation, etc. First, lets remember that I don't post at nights, so I'm not ducking a response, I am just not here. Anti-White offenses - 1,511 Anti-White victims - 1,554 Anti-Black offenses - 3,805 Anti-Black victims - 3945 So while the offenders aren't that far off, the offenses and victims are quite disportionate. And as I said earlier in the thread, the opportunity for crimes dictated by race lessen alot due to the fact that there is a smaller chance of it happening outside of the thickly black populated areas(the South, South East, North East West coast). In the places where hate crime is reported, the white to black population is no where near as disportionate as the 79-7 percentage nationwide.

Matt should "moan and bitch" to his friends, not to fans and satellite radio listeners. He's way overplaying his hand on this one. Well, his last friend fucked lita, so you know....maybe venting in public is the better idea.

hell, they only offered Kenyon Martin a contract. When he went to the Nuggets, they just traded everyone for draft picks and said FUCK IT!!

Edited to make the story actually interesting. Well if you are into wrestling slash, it would be more interesting. I personally found the original a LIL more interesting.

Didn't this all pretty much go down like in the past month or 2? I mean seriously people, thats a long relationship that ended badly like 8 weeks ago. In the real world, it takes a lil longer to get over it. Then throw on top of it that the relationship ended because of a best friend. THen throw on top of it you GET FIRED BECAUSE OF IT. ALL WHILE REHABBING A KNEE INJURY. I think he has more than a few months of bitching before it becomes excessive.

There are more whites in the USA. Exactly. There are also areas where there are no blacks, so you can argue that the reason that these whites aren't committing hate crimes is because there aren't any blacks to act it out on. ... HA!!

I am not saying whites are even more racist. I am saying that whites are more likely to act out on their racism than blacks which might be more of a product of the racist blacks also calling the justice system racist and think the book will be thrown at them if they act. Whites just act out violently, and destructively their racist views than blacks.

I always hated that verse because he screwed it up saying that Kareem Abdul Jabbar did crossovers. Unless he meant like crossover from sports to movies in which case the verse kicks ass again.

Okay..I give you that. but: Magic's Competition >>>>>> Jordans Competition

Kareem was at the end of a career after around 82. Of course he was better than Jordans supporting cast, but lets not be confused, Jordan wouldn't have had any sucess without Pippen. Hell, Magic did make a finals with Sam fucking Perkins as the starting center.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecm.htm I couldnt find anything after the 95 stats, mostly because I am a lazy fuck and don't feel like looking. But there are twice as many reported anti black crime as their are anti white crimes. Mike will argue interracial crime overall, because somehow robbing and hitting someone of a different race is the same thing as beating someone while yelling racial insults. We were discussing hate crime and whites committ more HATE CRIMES.

you're WAY overestimating xxx xxx without vin diesel = 20 mil at the MOST You are underestimating the drawing power of a crazy mutha fucka named Ice Cube. *points to Are we there yet*

That is complete and utter bullshit and you are well aware of that. While i will admit that I mistated the "crime doesn't cross the racial lines" thing, what I meant is that it is more likely for people to commit crime against their own. The other part, racially motivated crimes are commited by whites FAR more often than blacks is absolute truth.

They actually are obvious. Like "i'm going to shoot some fags" followed by shooting people at gay bar. I am going to go out on a limb and say, yeah...MAYBE that had something to do with the person being gay. the amount of crimes that were caused by "he was hittin on me" are because of a persons sexual orientation. Hell, if you really want look at it, there are a shit load of crimes committed because they thought the person was gay and they weren't really. Those count also.

Brevin Knight, Gerald Wallace and Breznioghlg(who ever the fuck that Center is) were all incredible this year. Then from game in to game out they would get help from someone else like Jason Hart or Kapano. Charlotte and Atlanta were both expansion teams, only Charlotte got the better pickups because they got to go first. Atlanta had to start signing Jason Collier and Kevin Willis, and Kenny Anderson and anyone else left in the free agent pool after Charlotte got to pull a player from every team.

Its not a "fact". You think that, you have nothing to back that up what soever. When a crime is motivated by race, sexual orientation, or religion, it is usually awfully obvious.

Thats bullshit too. Most crimes are committed against peoples own race. Don't pretend that its poor innocent white people being assaulted by the blacks all the time now and it hardly happens the other way. In racially motivated crimes, whites still hold a considerable advantage, but for the most part, crime doesn't cross the color lines. You rob who you are around. you kill who you are around. Black on black and white on white crimes are by far the dominant occurance.

There were 1,430 "sexual orientation" motivated crimes in 2003 alone. Source: Crime in the United States, 2003, FBI, Uniform Crime Reports. As we have seen with "hate crimes" --- the stat is of virtually no use, whatsoever. -=Mike ...Any crime against a gay person is a "sexal orientation"-motivated crime --- even if it's not actually the case... Well thats just a bunch of bullshit.

John Hollinger said it best before the season. The Hawks thought they could get better if they cleared out cap space, and thus dealt Abdur-Rahim and Ratliff. The problem is, they couldn't get players any better than those two. So the whole exercise is a wash. The Hawks were an expansion team. The only players they brought back from last year were Boris Diaw and Chris Crawford(and Chris missed the whole year). They had 11 new players on the roster, Josh Smith, Josh Childress, Donta Smith, and Royal Ivey were all rookies getting alot of minutes, with Antoine Walker and Al Harrington being the only guys with experience at being good in the league. 13 wins is about what I expect out of a expansion team.

Alright. My list. 1: Magic Johnson - Like I said before. Magic(not counting that brief comeback attempt) played 11 NBA seasons, and went to the finals 8 of those. 5 of which his team won the title. 2nd all time in assist, made all his players alot better, could score if need be, was practically unstoppable on the court, could play 4 positions consistantly, a hell of a rebounder, triple double MACHINE and ball hawk. The guy just did it all. I think its a little unfair to say that if he didn't have those guys around him he couldn't win, because honestly we don't know what those guys would have done without him. All we can say is that the Lakers were a dominant team and Magic Johnson was the engine. 2: Kareem Abdul Jabbar - I know I know, alot of his stats are because he played like 50 years, but he still is the number one scorer, number two rebounder, number two shotblocker in the history of the nba. Won 6 titles with two teams, countless MVP's (if you can only count to five...I guess it would be countless) 3: Wilt Chamberlain - The guy was just simply dominant. Already mentioned was his 50 point, 25 rebound year, but what people don't know about was that he actually lead the league in assist a few times. From the CENTER position. OVER 10 a game. Would have had entire handfuls of rings if not for Bill Russell and those damn Celtic. after this, its a crap shoot. You can interchange any of them for all i care and I wouldn't argue. 4: Michael Jordan - Greatest scorer to play the game, great team defender, could rebound, could pass...the guy could do it all. 6 championships, scoring titles out the wazoom, won a defensive player of the year(i still think it was bullshit, but he did win it so it goes on the resume). For every arguement people have for Magic, I can have for Jordon though. What would he have done if he didn't have Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman or Horace Grant. Jordan didn't win until the pieces were in place and the league got a lil more parity. 5: Bill Russell - gotta cut the reasoning short...have to actually work, but probably greatest defender of all time, great team player, could score out the ass if he wanted to, a shit load of championships. 6: Oscar Robertson - Cause he is the big O. 7: Hakeem Olajawan - so underrated I can't even spell his name right. All time leading shot blocker and rebounder in the league. Only took him about 12 years to get there. Impressive. 8. Larry Bird - He would be at 5 if I wasn't just now rembering him. Put him there and push everyone else down one. Turned the Celtics from nothing to contenders, great all around player. Underrated defender, rebounder and passer, as most dumbasses just think he could shoot threes and thats it (goddamned Jordan vs Bird video game). 9: Shaq - Don't be hatin. 10: *looks around*....*looks around again*.....Okay...i know no one will agree with me, but Moses Malone was the MUTHA FUCKIN MAN.