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Jordan had big man defenders that could shoot the short jumper. The Bulls were a fucking machine man. They always had some deadly(and i mean DEADLY) three point shooter you couldn't double off up, a big that could hit the short jumper when you collapsed on jordan or pippin, and a incredible rebounder/defender at the 4.

Dennis Rodman and Scottie Pippen aren't hall of famers all of a sudden?

Are those new Transformers? They are known to look one way at election time and another during office. LIARS IN DISGUISE~!

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Woah woah.... you said WHAT?! Hey, I still think Magic Johnson is probably the best player ever to play, With Kareem, Wilt and Russell right up there and Jordon right in there(with Oscar Robinson and Larry Bird right there behind them). I think it is a shuffle after Magic and Kareem and anyone can be 3 and on, but I firmly believe that Magic Johnson winning 5 NBA titles, and being in 8 finals 10(or was it 11?) years is something to be seen. he could literally play 4 positions consistantly, was a great scorer(not as good as Jordon but still not many were ever) a INCRESDIBLE playmaker and passer and made everyone that touched the court better. Don't blame anyone for thinking that Jordon is the best, but I still take Magic for my money.

Dude seriously, stop with the worthless stats. Adjusted Fg% is about as worthless as per 48 minutes stats. Gilbert arenas shoots 43% from the field. Thats it. Adjust all you want he shoots 43% from the field and takes 19 shots a game. Thats fine and all, seeing as that is what Iverson does, McGrady does and others, but lets not act like he is a great shooter now. He takes 7 threes a game and is shooting only 36%. How is he not settling for the three? And I am not even a stat guy. Stats mean shit to me(I really mean NOTHING) because they are not indicutive of what a guy does for the game, but since you want to ride them SO much, you need to look at the stats that you are riding. Are...are you arguing with me or agreeing with me? I really can't tell. You are saying he ISN"T one track minded because he only does one thing for three quarters and do the other for the last quarter....and my arguement is that he can either pass and only focus on passing or shoot and ONLY focus on shooting.... just pause with me there and see that you just used a paragraph to agree with me. Once again, Gil is not alone in doing this. Guys like Marbury, Francis...they do the exact same thing. The best guards (James, McGrady, Bryant, Carter) can do both. . Um... Well...SOMEONE said that.... And personally when you start talking the top 15 players, you are naming the great players in the league. I repeat. I DON'T THINK HE IS A GREAT PLAYER YET. Gilbert leading the injury depleted team to 45 wins, huh? Didn't Jamison play in 39 of the wins? Didnt Hughes play in 36 of them? When exactly was this long stretch that Gilbert was out there leading the reserves to wins? he never played without at least one of the other 20 point per game scorers. He is the number one reason they won alot of their games, but you make it sound like the was carrying the team on his back by himself while everyone else was hurt. Last year, you said the team was playoff bound because they picked up one of the best point guards in the league, I argued that he was a 2 guard and wasn't really a point and overrated as being a great point, and you jumped all over me. After one season of watching him shoot everytime he touched the ball, he is a designated shooter for the team. No longer the point, because he doesn't play the position. Of course I am still wrong, even though you are going through lengths to point out that he is a scorer now, thus completely agreeing with what I said last year. At the begaining of this year, I said that the team would suck if they expected Gilbert Arenas to spread the ball around. They didn't use him to spread the ball around and the team was good. I am saying now that he isn't a great player in the league, and you are saying that OMG you aren't giving him his PROPS for being blah blah blah blah. Me thinking Jamison and Hughes are better players is just a opinion, that you pretend I have to be a idiot for having, despite the fact that Hughes is a better playmaker and a better defender, and a better rebounder and takes better care of the ball than Arenas. But there is NO WAY that makes him better because Gilbert can score at will. For every point you can make I can make a counter point. You seem to take this way more seriously than me though. Fact of the matter is, Gilbert was a part of a three headed monster that put up huge numbers. The Wiz won 45 games and are in the playoff. Great. But unless you can say something besides "But the fans know better and balh blah blah" then you claim to be making any more of a point than I am. It is very arguable that Manu Ginobli is a better all around player, defender, shooter, gamer than Gilbert Arenas seeing his playoff performances. Any one that underplays what Cory Maggette does obviously don't watch the Clippers play(something you often accuse me of doing with the Wiz). Michael Red carried a much less talented team to the playoffs last year, and yeah, it is very debatable that Larry Hughes is a better all around player than Gilbert Arenas as I have already pointed out. But you can go get heated all you want. It won't change the fact that there are arguable points there.

Golden State Container, and Cracker Barrel are two that I can remember their cases making the news. I think the company won in both cases, because honestly, they CAN fire you for whatever the fuck they want to. its not right, but the court will more than likely uphold it.

You being from South Carolina you can't pretend not to have heard of Jim DeMint. And there are plenty of places that fire gay employees for being gay. They say it goes against their "moral standing". But to be fair, the same companies have been known to fire employees for having affairs. and...Gaylord v. Tacoma School Dist, Morrison v. State Board of Education, Rowland v. Mad River Local School all had something to do with gays being fired for being gay and it being upheld by the higher courts. I guess that something...

Yeah, Mr. Sensitive was funny. I just really liked that movie. Plus if it dragged, they would just put Elizabeth Hurely in something skimpy to wake the audience back up.

A shitty sitcom about a teacher that was a wrestler at night. Its from the late 80's or early 90's. I think Canada was responsible.

Most people I know liked I Robot. You know what I liked....Bedazzled. Brendan Fraizier as the basketball player with the tiny penis ownz you ALL. ANd him as the columbian drug lord....GOLD.

Well, I still haven't seen it in a legitamate news source so I am going to lean towards no. But by no means, let that stop the thread from continuing with the racist jokes. They are teh kewl.

There are plenty of people trying to push laws that wouldn't allow Gays to teach children at any level. And these laws are gaining support and could possibly pass in some states if they are ever put to the vote. Just let a certain party need some extra votes and you could see that happen in alot of states. And when I say a certain party, I mean either one of the fuckers. Republicrats or Democlicans.

This is worse than when I say that Jordon is probably the 4-5 best player to play the game and people act like it is blasphamey. How in the hell is me saying that Gilbert Arenas is a good player that will one day lead the league in scoring me DISSING GIlbert Arenas. You guys act like there are only two extremes, either you think that he is a GREAT INCREDIBLE PLAYER or he sucks. There is a BIG area inbetween that. Gilbert Arenas is a good player. He still shoots a bad percentage, shoots too much, settles for the three, has a one track mind (when he on a scoring run, he is going to shoot, not pass, open or not, he is going to gun that fucker. When he feels like playmaking he passes up on the simplist, smartest opportunities to shoot) gets lost on D, and gambles WAY too much when he does. He has the potential to be great but he isn't right now. That isn't saying he sucks. He put up 25-5-5 this year. Those aren't "he sucks numbers" but they ain't exactly going to make me lay down and sing his praises either. He has alot of improving to do before he is a top 15 player, but putting him in the top 40 isn't a diss. People act like if you don't say their guy is number one it is a slap in his face. Making the allstar team doesn't put you in the top 15 players in my mind because I don't see anyone arguing that Brad Miller or Chris Webber being there. The only teams you will see me analyze are the ones I watch and watch frequently. I WATCH the WIZARDS play. I watched them put up huge numbers at the beganing of the year. I watched them flounder when they hit defensive team. I also will watch them probably go to the second round of the playoffs. They are a decent team, with a 3 good/very good players. I anxiously await you turning that into me saying that Gilbert Arenas should be out of the league. And just to clarify, I have never hated on a player for getting a huge contract. I support the Desanga Diops and Juwan Howards and Jim Mclvaines of the world. When every Washingon fan was screaming "we are in the playoffs no doubt now' after he got signed I said he wouldn't be enough(and yes, Gil was injured last year, but that was mostly towards the end of the year and the season was already over then). Somehow though adding another 20 point a game, rebounding player did nothing and it was all Gil. Okay then. And seriously, stop using that "every anaylst and fan blah blah blah" crap because if basketball analyst have shown us anything is that they don't know shit and are usually just rooting for their favorite guys.

Well, like I said, it wasn't in order...just who came to mind. You can't be argueing that Shaq isn't a top 15 player in the league are you? DEFINITELY not. I'm not that blind in my dislike for him. But #1? I don't think so. Certainly top 5, definitely top 10. I'd say Arenas is more top 20-25 caliber. He'll be getting up there, though, with time. Hell I will make the bold prediction that Gilbert Arenas will lead the league in the scoring in a season or two. The guy can score at will, but I still don't think that makes him a great player.

Well, like I said, it wasn't in order...just who came to mind. You can't be argueing that Shaq isn't a top 15 player in the league are you? And even if you wanted to put arenas over marion(although that is quite insane) and Baron Davis(i could understand when it comes to injuries...I guess) I would still put Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh(who quietly became a monster this year) Michael Redd, Rashard Lewis, Amare Stoudimire, Elton Brand, Cory Magettee, Paul Pierce, and Manu Ginobli above Arenas. He is definately top 40 talent in the league (and in a league of 500+ players that isn't a insult) but top 15? Comeon. Thats a reach.

That was one fuck of a fight at the end of that movie though.

Oh shut up, Any of you that would say "No thanks to the 2,500 dollars...its not that much" while you were in college are fucking liars. And like it was said, there are plenty of people not giving anymoney to scholarships, so this is something. Don't care about Moore one way or another but come on.

Ohhhhh no, I know a ton of people, including myself, that love this little shitty flick! i got some old school ones for you I can never get people into: The Warriors and The Wraith... WHO in the FUCK doesn't like The Warriors. *clinks bottles together*

Freeway 2- Confessions of a Trickbaby Resident Evil The Village Magnolia And pretty much every movie mentioned in this thread except Mortal Kombat. I had no idea alot of people didn't like Kill Bill. Those movies kicked ass!

Well, You got somewhere to stay in Atlanta.

Stats have never meant a thing when it comes to best player. Grant Hill is the best player in Orlando even though Francis puts up better numbers. Steve Nash is the best player in Phoenix even though Amare puts up the better numbers. (here goes the shocker) Tyson Chandler is probably the best player on the bulls and averages under 10 points a game. Gilbert Arenas can score his everyloving ass off because he is really really quick. Noone is doubting that. Gilbert Arenas can also forget that he is a point guard and put up incredible numbers and his team loses. While he consistantly puts up great numbers, he is a inconsistant player, as in some nights he spreads the ball around and plays well and Washington ownz the other team then other nights its all about Gil and the team loses while he puts up 35. Yes, Gilbert put up great numbers last year, but lets be honest. The only change the Wiz made in the offseason was Antwain Jamison who has the tendacy to slow down the team and get them into their offense, which has been the reason for the turnaround. His rebounding, defense at the 3-4 posistion, and leadership is the reason the Wiz are in the playoffs. Of course, you aren't going to see it that way, just like when I said last year the Wiz weren't going to make it because they had way too many two guards(which they unloaded alot of in the offseason) and that Arenas shoots too much to be a point, he is really a two(and with Hughes basically running the point when he is out there, Gil is still playing a two guard that passes sometimes). And Gilbert Arenas is not a top 15 player. In no particular order: 1: Shaq 2: Jason Kidd 3: Steve Nash 4: Ray Allen 5: Lebron James 6: Kobe Bryant 7: Tracy McGrady 8: Baron Davis 9: Vince Carter(hate all yall want to, you know its true) 10: Jermaine O'neil 11: Tim Duncan 12: Dirk Nowinski 13: Shawn Marion 14: Allen Iverson 15: Kevin Garnett Now, who do you remove from that list. Hell there are about 8-10 more players to go on before I put Arenas in. But he is damn good at what he does.

That is why the BMI is bullshit. I am 5'6 and about 165 and noone in there right mind would call me slightly overweight. But according to the BMI, I need to lose about 20lbs. Bullshit. By way of comparison I'm 5'9 220lbs. Damn Ripper I know I'm overweight but you make me seem HUGE. ME? Dude, he's 6 feet tall and my weight! Its almost as if you are saying you are a big guy. I never would have guessed.

They are from Ohio. I don't think that counts as west coast. I still say bone had 3 good albums and then it was all over.

Not only did I not want to read the spoiler, I looked at you guys responses to the spoiler and still clicked and draged over it like a fucking idiot. I don't know....sounds kinda kick ass to me.