Ripper

Its gonna stop being fun now becuase you hard workers are getting off work and will start posting.

Stop it.

Nope. I'll never understand true woman-to-woman love if it involves underage sex trade. Peace. ... or if it doesn't involve underage sex trade.

I mean, his example is more extreme than this situation (a 5 year old should have sexual desires as of yet and the incest factor) but still. It was girl on woman love. Not woman on woman. Woman on Woman love is fine. You are right, I can't understand woman on woman love, but I think it is silly to assume that its outside the confines of man on woman love. Its taking two seperate entities...wow. What I was about to type was all sappy and romance novel sounding. Fuck that. I have my manhood to uphold. *clears throat and straightens tie* ANYWAY, I think you are missing my point here. I am not questioning your feelings about the experience at all. I am quite sure it was one of the great moments in your sexual and emotional life there. HOWEVER... That moment was shared with a pedophile who pays to have sex with underaged girls and probably is doing the same thing to this day. Your feelings about the experience aside, you don't even see a little why that would be ridiculously disturbing to most? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvM3eyk4c2o...feature=related

And then after they fuck, they would talk about philosophy to get a change of pace from that philosopy talk.

That's why I said you didn't understand. It wasn't "sex." We made love. She was beautiful and I wanted her as much as she wanted me. We talked about Plato and Aristophanes while we had drinks and she had her masseuses sing me to sleep. It wasn't "creepy." It was a wonderful experience and the only thing I regret is that it didn't last longer and I wasn't mature enough for her to be genuinely interested in me. See, the thing is, in more cases than not, this same woman is now in her 50's and probably still having sex with 13-14 year old girls. I mean, her being tender about it doesn't change what she is doing. Seriously, if this was a 30 year old man giving alchohol to a 14 year old boy as they talk about philosopy and fuck later, I don't think you would be calling it beautiful. Yes, you enjoyed it and it was deeply moving to you. You enjoyed a evening with someone that pays money to make love to underaged women. to you the experience isn't disturbing, but that lady has fucking issues and I hope someone has locked her ass up by now.

But she could never be a man. Because she is a woman.

You know, i am no a woman, but it just seems to me it would be rather insulting for a transexual to insist on being called a woman to women.

I think Lance Allred should get some burn in this game since he isn't getting suspended. And pull a Jo Joe English out there.

Wait what out? If you watch it again...

Marney...I have to disagree. No matter how great the sex might have been, a 14 year old having sex with a mid 30 year old isn't beautiful. Its creepy as fuck and that woman should have been locked up.

No...you wouldn't.

I agree with WANT, but AGREE? Are you kidding me? Dude...with the options presented before him, I would find it hard to belive that a parent, in that particular situation would do anything different. Of course, they wouldn't want to, but best option to protect your child...that was it.

Its total bullshit that should be looked into by another governing body. I don't see how the guy that can decide if this move can happen being good friends with the owner making it happen, then threatening Seattle with NBA banishment if they break a contract they rightfully have. Fuck Stern on this one.

Well, Yeah, but you can't deny they are two completely different things! They are just in the same ballpark.

You make a strong arguement there. However, I would argue that she would be more of a slut(ONE OF US..ONE OF US...GOOBLE GOBBLE) in that situation as she was just fucking because she wanted to fuck. A whore is someone who fucks for money. If she didn't know money was involved, she couldn't be fucking for it. A slut is someone who would be 14 fucking woven steel 30 year olds with brandy voices. So Marney, you were in the slut club. We meet on the 6th and 9th of each month.

She had a body to die for, the face of an angel, and a voice like warm brandy. She tasted like honey, smelled like orchids, and felt like woven steel cords wrapped in silk, I mean, thats pretty un hot right there. And how are woven steel cords wrapped in silk sexy on a woman? You want a dude with some nice lotion. I will never understand lesbians that like man traits on a woman. Is the point of being attracted to a woman being attracted to a woman?

She, herself would have to make money off if it to be the whore. If I pick up alot of mail off the ground and put it in the right mail boxes at my complex, that don't make me the fucking mailman. When the USPS starts paying me, then I am a mailman.

Wow, this went from funny/mild jealousy-inducing to really sad, depressing, and pitiful. Remphasized by me. The bolded sentence makes no sense start to about middle. You cannot 'be sold' at the same time you 'willingly give yourself' to someone. This either ends one of two ways logically: 1) This entire story is bullshit. This would work on almost anyone else. Hell, I'd even be skeptical of Milky saying this. For some reason I believe you, mainly because you have no reason not to. That's the best motivation for truth in this world. 2) You were sold to someone by someone else, while being duped. Someone used you as property to get money. Whether or not you liked it is immaterial, you were dehumanized, reduced to the same level as cattle and grain. As much as I know my sympathy is going to be rejected by the subject because I'm somehow unhuman myself, I still feel pangs of sadness. No one should have their feelings, childhood, and sexuality fucked up like that (by sexuality I mean general sex-related issues, not orientation per se). Not even a delusional lesbian who hates trans-folk. If I were put through the same ordeal as described... I'd have no respect for myself and would probably be blowing sailors for $5 a pop. I guess I learned a bit how exactly Marney became Marney. I'll stop fucking with you Marney, you suddenly became human to me. And for some reason I feel the need to apologize for that, too. What? It makes sense. And why would you run yourself down for fucking someone you wanted to fuck. So you find out they paid someone else for it. They paid that much fucking money, then obviously, they wanted to fuck you. they just didnt' know they could fuck you for free. I imagine I would be pissed, but I feel no sadness because of this story. If she fucked someone she DIDN'T want to fuck and someone got paid for it, then fine. That is a sad story. She wasn't reduce to the level of cattle or grain. Who the fuck is fucking a bag of grain? 14 year old lesbian sex has to be a commodity. So maybe she got reduced to the level of diamonds or some other rare gem. And in terms of reducing..that ain't bad. There is nothing sad about fucking people you want to fuck. Sorry. There just isn't. And on top of that, SHE ENJOYED IT. So basically, she fucked someone she liked, enjoyed it and found out later someone else was paid for it. Big fucking whoop. The only heartache that should be here is that the person didn't really care for her. And there isn't one person having sex that hasn't gone through that.

Maybe she got introduced to this person from someone, not knowing that the person introducing her was getting paid to hand over some 14 year old goodies. But still, you finding out about the money exchange later and not collecting..ugh. its like if I shoot someone that pissed me off and then find out there was a contract on their head. Well then pay me...whats done is done!!

Wait, someone else collected all the money? I mean, once you realize that the money was changed over, you needed to get your cut. Of course that would technically make you a whore, and you wouldn't be right here, but still....money.

Children usually make it.

You CAN'T move the Minnesota Vikings. Way too much history, too many fans, too many of them Germanic. You don't step to that. Besides, it's the NFL, the shitty teams change from year to year. If David Stern took over the NFL they would move, like it or fucking not.

Given that Zeke pretty much undermined Larry Brown with the players while Brown was coach of the Knicks, it's a smart AND necessary move by Walsh. Thats not flipping history at all.

Ha, Stevenson isn't anywere near being out the league. He is one of the premier periemter defenders in the league. Point is, he is too small to cover Lebron and going to get abused, but he is a amazing defender and dependable shooter. I will say he isn't good enough to be talking all that trash when he is a younger Raja Bell.