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Well, DUH. That's why I said "I partly agree" to begin with. *dingdingding* That WAS my point. Some black people use their race as an excuse. And for the record, I've never known a white person to say "It's because I'm white, isn't it?" Does that mean that they never do? No, but it's something I'm not experienced in, so I figured there was no point to mention it. As for what I skipped over, did you mean this: In my eyes, that's not you saying that some blacks scream racism. That's you simply repeating what I stated. I skipped over it because I didn't feel it was relevant, as it was just you repeating me. And also, I didn't try to act like you said I claimed all blacks were racist - I merely pointed out that I never ONCE made a reference to "all blacks". I used the word "some". As in, NOT ALL. You're the one who made reference to the ENTIRE black race, not me. So what was the point of the story. Right now, the only point that you appeared to be making is that Blacks scream racism about everything. You can say some all you want, but when the preceeding post is about how blacks scream racism and you come in and say you agree, how do expect your post to be taken? Most of my post was about the person who started the thread anyway, I just found your example to support his claims to be completely useless and pointless. The truth is some people are dumb. End of story. Black, white, any color, some are dumb. When you single out the black race as saying "Blacks do this blah blah blah", when it can just as easily and correctly attributed to the entire human species, then it comes off as singling out a race and trying to attribute those peoples actions to being a result of their race and not their own stupidity.

Hey, I'm just on sick leave. I'll be back if no one else does it.

Here I am... 104 fever and still crawling back to the ME...dedication...and I had to work today...but mostly dedication to the Enterprises. ... ... I'm going home now...keep it alive for the weekend....keep it alive.

I know you never said that you would have perfect marrige. But you do operate on the belief that there isn't a chance that you won't marry a maniplutive woman that could do and say whatever she feels you need to hear to take you down for whatever reason. The divorce rate in America isn't high because they didn't let God choose thier path. Its high because people find out things about people after marrige that weren't apparent in the courting stage of the relationship. Good people fall in love with and marry bad people or people just plain not meant for them all the time. And if this happens to you (and I hope it doesn't) it won't Gods fault or your own. It is life. There is a chance it will happen just as much as there is one that it won't. Your faith does not protect you from the facts and laws of life. It has never claimed to. It points you to a path. That path might have all types of traps and dangers on it, but it but it will be the path that you have chosen. And if it turns out to be a horrible mistake, you seem(like I said) to have painted yourself into a corner with this "God will provide her to me" type of thinking as you will have no one to blame but God.

Well, some whites try to use their race they are getting screwed over by minorities. What the fuck that point prove. Blah blah, some blacks say stupid shit...blah blah You obviously said it to try and agree with that bunch of crap in the first post. Unless you were ready to point out the dumbassery in the White race also, your point was to signal out blacks as trying to get over on their race. Otherwise you were just making a pointless comment. And as neat of a job as you did in quoting my post, you jumped right on past the next sentence when I said SOME blacks scream racism and jumped about a paragraph or two to act like I called you out for saying all blacks were racist. Thats a neat editing job, though.

West coast two guards are Ray Allens bitches. Thats all that needs to be said. After the trade last year, he went on to prove even more that he can make ALL west coast 2 guards his bitches. He averaged 36 vs the lakers this year. about 34 against the Mavs. and 30+ against the Kings. And those are teh only teams in the west that have REAL DEAL 2's. Brent Barry is a solid shooter and passer, Rashard Lewis can score from anywhere and the big foreign white guy connection stretch defenses further than any big men this side of Pat Garrity. I say that if anyone is winning 40 itwill be Seattle. Unless about 15 major players out west have injury plaged seasons, the Clips ain't getting 40.

Thats all well and good, and that is pretty much a summation of it all. But as I said before, from reading your post (and I understand that of all places, post on a internet messageboard are the last place you can get a read on someones actions) your beliefs seem to flow into the side of blind faith, ignoring some of the more basic tenants of existance by saying "If God wants it so, so shall it be." God also gives us trials and tribulations in life so that we will be tested. Yet when I read you say things like, "There's no way I'll have a bad marriage because god will give me the woman I need" or "My wife won't get pregnant unless god wants us to have the baby." we are talking borderline scary blind obidience that even the Bible spoke against. You are suppose to investigate, ask questions and explore the best possible means to overcome each problem, not sit back, cross you arms and say "God will get me through this too." God put you here to live, not for him to have something to guide around like a puppet. The even worse part of it is that you are putting yourself into a position where you could easily be cursing the very thing that you modeled your lifestyle after. If you do marry and the woman cheats on you, who will you be left to blame but God? If you and your wife do become pregnant without the money to properly raise a healthy child, you have painted yourself into a corner and will have no one to blame but God. You should really be seeing life as it is. A series of goods and bads...experiences that you were meant to have and learn by. Not as God rewarding you and only allowing the "right wife" to come into your life or for you to have your kids at "the right time". Wow...I really need to go post something pointless and make bad attempts at being funny. I have been way to serious today.

I know, I was refering to the part about it being his denomination. I see how it came out wrong. Sorry bout that.

It's also part of his denomination. I, personally, just can't believe in predestination and literally intrepreting the Bible. But it is impossible to really literally interpret the entire bible seeing as it says one thing and later on says that the day of that is gone, this is the new law. So either you disregard the entire old testement (which does away with the whole 10 commandments and that whole homosexuality is wrong thing that the church seems to cling to now) and believe in the New and teachings of Christ, or you admit that somethings are not to be taken literally and that God gave us free will for a reason. You can't preach peace and love while saying that if you do go to war its make sure to kill everyone and its cool to rape the defeated's wives and children. You have to say that one of those things aren't the way to go...and dear god I hope you choose the second one. False prophecy was one of the major things the Bible says to be aware of as well as pointing out that evil will know every bit of the bible and will hide from you what you truly need. The most important part that of the Bible is Love is above all and God put you here to live life. The bible is full of stories that say "Hey, don't fuck up like this guy" or "Try doing what he did...that might help." Actually Homosexuality is spoken against in the New Testament too so that's not thrown away when we're not under the old law. The OT is not useless. In fact without it the rest wouldn't make sense. I know, I am saying that the Old testament is very useful. Its just that you can't say that the entire bible is meant to be taken literally, or that certain parts are obviously meant to be taken literally and others aren't when even those parts or usually undercut by later writings. And if I'm not confused, the only time that Homosexuality is mentioned in the NT is when Paul was writing some of his letters to Timothy...and basically he was still holding on to the old law. If Jesus said that above all things is Love, how does two homosexuals in love not supercede the "abomination" that it was called in the OT.

I'm not sure what you meant by that. Anti-Christs were just those who actively spoke out against Christ or tried to discredit him. John even said many have already come. I mean the whole, BIG OL" anti christ with 666 across his forehead, ultimate evil, mighty nation shall fall end of days stuff. You do know that he was just taking shots at Nero Ceasar, right.

It's also part of his denomination. I, personally, just can't believe in predestination and literally intrepreting the Bible. But it is impossible to really literally interpret the entire bible seeing as it says one thing and later on says that the day of that is gone, this is the new law. So either you disregard the entire old testement (which does away with the whole 10 commandments and that whole homosexuality is wrong thing that the church seems to cling to now) and believe in the New and teachings of Christ, or you admit that somethings are not to be taken literally and that God gave us free will for a reason. You can't preach peace and love while saying that if you do go to war its make sure to kill everyone and its cool to rape the defeated's wives and children. You have to say that one of those things aren't the way to go...and dear god I hope you choose the second one. False prophecy was one of the major things the Bible says to be aware of as well as pointing out that evil will know every bit of the bible and will hide from you what you truly need. The most important part that of the Bible is Love is above all and God put you here to live life. The bible is full of stories that say "Hey, don't fuck up like this guy" or "Try doing what he did...that might help."

LESS complicated games...oh...dear...lord.

Because only a Harvard man would be smart enough to capture Stephaine McMahon and trap her behind a glass window in a mall. Even though the "story" mode sounds dumb, it looks fun as hell...and the graphics are gourgeous.

The whole anti christ thing proves that even in the new testament john was adding in his own 2 cents.

No..no...I don't think many of us have to wonder at all. "PEOPLE DYING IZ FUNNY~!" asshole...

First off, fuck you for making me look at the dudes from that commercial. Second, yeah, you're right...one of those dudes, from the right angle, looks JUST like Chris Jerhico. Thanks for ruining a perfectly good commercial for me...

Did he really suck in Meet Joe Black or was that just a overly long, overly talky crap on wheels disaster of a film that no one could save.

SP, honestly dude, I get more and more worried about your literal interpretation of the bible everyday. You do realize that the Bible itself tells of how it could be corupted since it was written by men, right. I mean, in biblical times, you HAD to have as many kids as possible for the survival of the people. You shouldn't eat pork and shell fish and such because you might die from it. The writers of the bible put their own beliefs intertwined with what God told them. Its in there. It is very dangerous to hold on so dearly to the bible as a literal interpretation of what you should do as it is clearly there as a guide, not a rule book of yes and no'...more of a map of what way you should try to go. I don't know if you study on your own or not, but it sounds like (and this is only from your post that I have read) that who ever is doing the teaching is casually jumping over the parts that say "DON'T TAKE ALL THIS LITERALLY, I GAVE YOU CHOICE AND COMMON SENSE...USE IT"...

All I'm saying is do some research before using all these numbers and guesses that you are building completely off of stereotypes. The number break down in this country is some where around 8% black, 11 percent Hispanic/Latino, 3 percent "other" and 78% white. Most crimes are committed by whites. CRIMES OF ALL TYPES. Murder, robbery, rape...all of them. By percentage, more blacks commit crime (saying that of that 8 percent, you might have a 20% rate of criminals while in the white community it might be around 10-15%...numerically more whites commit crimes, minorities have a higher percentage). And given that crime is perportionate to social class, and minorities make up the largest percentage of lower class americans, that is a given. Make no mistake, in the lower income areas of Utah, there are white kids killing and robbing just as much as the worst areas in D.C. Yes, this issue will be split down the middle but there is no reason for it to be. If everyone stops and thinks about things the other way around (if i were black/white would this be a fair assumption) then they would see how ridiculous it is to claim that any group is represented by the racist, ignorant bunch. And don't get afraid about a discussion dude. that is the point of the board. I don't think anyone walked away pissed off about what was said on a message board. State your opinions and others will agree or disagree.

And the African-Americans thing. LET IT THE FUCK GO! Guess what. you aren't "white" either. More of a cream color. I'm not black. More of a brown color. You have never been "white" and I have never been "Black" so lets talk shit about this term to. Stop bitchn so fuckin much, jesus. "If there is a movie that is made with ALL white guys in it, then its racism for not including a black guy, if we have a television station called WHITE ENTERTAINMENT, can you IMAGINE the backlash that would happen. In "rap" songs, you can call a white boy a "cracka", you can call a black man a "nigger" or "nigga" BUT if a white boy even thinks about calling a black man a "nigger" or "nigga" then he's the scum of the earth. " There are movies, and TV shows that are all whites. And the only people that bitch about it are Jesse Jackson and others out to line their own pockets. If you think the rest of black america gives a shit, you are retarded. What rap songs have you been listening to where they are calling white people cracka's. No one even brings up white people in rap...unless they call them white. Until you start showing examples you are just spouting off how blacks are getting over. And Nigger- has a history of being a preface to violence, murder, and show of disrepect when coming from a white person to a black person. Cracker- has a history of being a really bad comeback to someone calling you nigger. See the difference. Why can blacks say and and whites can't. Well, first, like papcita, I don't like it either way. I think it is rather obvious why blacks can call each other a term that is suppose to insult you for being black and whites shouldn't. And what oppertunities are blacks (7 % of the country) getting over whites (80% of the country) why don't you share that with me. And I'm sorry, but "ya, dig" If he wasn't a 50 year old guy from a blazpolitation film, I find it hard to believe that you were around listening to two black guys using 30 year old slang. You post does prove that the double standard does exist. That black morons some how represent us all and white morons are just stupid. A moron is a moron. CJ, Rendclaw, Papcita, myself and others on this board don't cry racism about everything...don't look for handouts as you act like most blacks do. And we are not the minority of our race. Stop attaching ignorace to a entire people because you met some of them that had their head up their asses.

This is a straight up lie. No other way to say it. It is a fucking lie. Blacks and hispanics make up less than 20% of the population. Over 97% of crimes are commited against people of your own race. By your reasoning, basically every black and mexican person is killing and murdering each other. We should all be dead. By the numbers, Whites commit WAY more crimes than blacks and hispanics. By percentages, whites commit less. Get you numbers right before you start using it as fact. As for the most of the bullshit that has been spewed in this thread. For some strange reason, the morons of the black race are somehow seen as our representatives but the morons of the white race are seen as morons. Jesse Jackson blames everything from the sunrise to soggy toast on racism, but he must be representing us black people. Pat Robinson says a couple of Supreme court Justices should die so they relegious groups can get more power, then he is seen as a idiot. They are both idiots and niether represent the feelings of their race. This "all black people always scream racism" is fucking ignorant. You say blacks at walmart are assholes...you are in fucking walmart. Thats like me going to the Monster Truck show and saying all whites must be racist because they were. You saw some blacks screaming racism then one of two things are in action: 1: There really was racism 2: They are a bunch of whiney assholes. They are representatives of themselves, not of the race and to keep attaching these stigmas to a entire people is ignorant beyound belief. White racist are called rednecks and such, yet black racist are called...well..black. How is that fair? Racist are racist. That is it. They are creatures of a entirely different thought process. Look at things the other way around and you will see how fucking stupid half of what some of you are saying is. If I encounter a bunch of racist white people, turn on the TV and see racist white people, is it then fair for me to say that most white people are racist? If I look at the mysoginy in alot of Rock, and country music is it fair to say that the entire genre of music is mysoginistic crap? Yet when it is the other way around, you get post like the ones in this thread. Racism is everywhere. From both sides. But stop associating more racism with one side than the other because it is fucking stupid. There are no "hate whitey" classes in the "ghetto" as some of you think...just as their are no hate the "Blackies" classes in white neighborhoods. And for the endless and stupid BET argument. BET came about in the 80's when black mucisian and shows had NO outlet on television. Outside of Lionell Richie and Michael Jackson, no black artist were shown on MTV. BET was a channel of necessity because the rest of television WAS WET. I can say that BET no longer has its usefulness as a channel as artist of all colors can get representation on television now, but I also understand not removing the channel that has nearly 30 years history now. White artist are seen on BET constantly now. That little argument is fucking stupid, has no legs to stand on and you should really let it go. And yes spicey, you can join me in hating how it stereotypes blacks....I hate that damn channel. But saying it's existance is proof of this huge double standard is bullshit.

What did I do?

I also think the whole, you can't go NEAR the vagina again without washing up, thing kinda makes me not really gung-ho about it. I don't know two many people that are as sexually adventurous as me (I mean, alot of my friends still bitch about going down on a girl...I LOVE that shit) so I don't know if reward>effort. But like I said. If asked, hell yeah I'd do it. And Scorpios are the greatest women in the world...the FUCKING GREATEST. I didn't buy into that shit when I was young and dumb, but boy has life taught me.

Ladies...gentlemen. I think we can safely say we have made this board OURS!

*Hugs Miss Mattitude* Thats the kind of dedication we need around here.