Jobber of the Week

Gee, that's taking credit for quite a bit much, don't you think? Same to Powerplay.

Oops. It's 8AM and I've been up all night and haven't been thinking. Stated my case on that. I understand the Zell bashing, since he crossed my "guy going to the other party's convention" test. He's appeared on one of your sabbaticals. He's bad enough that he's made me actually value Mike's presence as a poster on more than one occasion. Like Mike, he posts conservative opinion with a flip attitude, but while Mike casually deals with each person who wants to disagree with what he says, GreatOne actually goes looking for a fight. And if that means calling people names and putting your political thoughts in WWE and other forums to get a rise, so be it. Mike and I are like an old married couple having a disagreement compared to GreatOne, who seems to think that this is war and he's on the frontlines as an Internet Toughtalker.

Dennis Miller is just a populist bitch, same as O'Reilly. I didn't even know he was considered a leftist previously because his HBO series was an endless parade of Clinton BJ jokes formatted to a TV show.

Congress? That's all he'll ever get. If you think you've heard a lot about his affairs now, he'll be absolutely eaten alive by them if he runs for President. Of course, almost every discussion about Giulianni running for Prez involves Hillary being the opponent, and I think she's just about the worst possible choice ever, so in that instance, heck, maybe Ralph Nader will finally get some states.

Well, I've been watching C-SPAN yesterday, and I only tune to the networks when the day's session is over or it's someone completely irrelevent. However, the heads after the show on one of the stations said it had been rather well controlled, and the evidence I can find online supports that. But while looking for information, I found this picture/caption on Everybody's Favorite Unbiased News Channel: Aug. 31: Scott LoBaido stands with his painting, part of an exhibit meant to show GOPers some NYC artists support them. Come on, now. That has to parody and the Faux News people are too stupid to see that it isn't. It HAS to be.

That was the best Yankees game I've ever seen.

Worldwide, the Republican Party is a dinosaur. We're one of the few non-extremist nations left that takes their positions as anything more than a cute joke. That we're one of the largest and most powerful and most advanced nations in the world makes that further ridiculous. It takes balls to be a liberal because liberal has become a bad word to be hissed as an accusation. Conservative is still considered any regular Republican/Libertarian, from Arnold's optimism to Bush's authoritarianism. Compared to conservative, liberal is fightin' words. Calling someone a liberal is akin to calling someone a girly man these days.

Polygamy is NOT between two consenting adults. And this comparison to drugs is so fucking retarded that you ought to be ashamed of yourself. First of all, drugs has nothing to do with love or civil unions. Secondly, yes, some drug use might actually be safer with legalization and proper regulation. Thirdly, this is a straw man arguement. Learn to debate subjects without going to irrelevent extremes or get out of the forum, we have enough amateurs. It's not the same thing because it's not marriage. It even says it's not marriage. Granted, it's about as "equal but fair" as White and Coloreds restrooms, but at least that's something. Go to hell, you bigoted, intolerant, moral majority garbage. Families, in case you haven't noticed, are far and away the largest majority in America, and are very well protected. "Protecting families" doesn't mean dejecting other people because they are different than you and therefore okay to judge against. The rest of us, meanwhile, will continue to exist and show no support for homophobic backwater trash like you and your agenda. Keep your religion in the church, and don't bring it into fucking politics. Raise your family as you see fit, and keep the fuck out of my life because I have no interest in messing with your family.

I would say that Michael Moore has exploited that in that fashion, but none of the pols on that side will reach that level until I hear something like "and as I watched that soldier fall to gunfire from Iraqi insurgents, I looked the reporter next to me in the eye and purely out of emotion told him, 'thank god I can vote for John Kerry.'" It's not that 9/11 shouldn't exist, Slam correctly mentioned it's a big part of policy decisions right now. It's playing to people's emotions of 9/11, from people recalling dead family members to using imagery of burning bodies falling out of the sky, that is distasteful.

This might actually be better than the "you are the Terminators" speech. "You are all the Republicans! You will tell the career politicians 'no more" at the polls!" Wow, it's even got a hint of subtle indoctrination.

Marriage has always been between two consenting adults. States have independantly recognized marriage soley as between a man and a woman, but marriage has always been known on a federal level as two consenting adults. You cannot marry an 8 year old, because they are not an adult. You cannot marry someone who doesn't want to get married to you. You cannot marry your pet dog or your television because those are not consenting adults. Only in a religious context. Although I've debated on the side of pro-gay marriage before, myself and many others would like to see at least the civil unions that allows marriage to keep it's names while giving the privelages of a married couple. Then you haven't messed with marriage. However, Republicans want to outlaw any chance of that happening, either. They are being driven by religious fundamentalists who see homosexuals as deviants and want them to be outcast by society. Does that mean civil unions are okay? Becuase you've been debating against them this whole thread. What the hell? Marriage is not a natural thing. It is a government thing and originally a religious thing. LOVE is the natural thing. STFU.

If you are the richest man on your block... You are a Republican!

We're just going to have to disagree here. I think that saying what happened to him is fine, but I think using it in a re-election effort is disgusting. Using imagery of people on fire in this situation is shameful. They're talking out of an interest for vengeance. Not exactly a good political theme.

Mike, nobody has the "right" to turn around and exploit the worst terrorist attack in history and use people's deaths for a re-election effort. That is cold, heartless, and to take a word from your book, downright subhuman. This has absolutely nothing to do with Bush. It's an appeal to emotion. I have the right to burn an American flag in my front yard. It is not, however, appropriate. I don't want anyone from ANY party to use someone's death as a political football. The fact that it's thousands of deaths only makes it more shocking. Where was either?

Aside from the MSNBC shit, this has supposedly been a pretty tame protest with some quiet arrests. I doubt it'll affect anything.

Mike, when you're going to hold a campaign rah-rah, you have lines you should and shouldn't cross. I sat through everyone talking about how Bush channels the best of Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Reagan all in one man. My heart warmed as I heard 9/11 survivors talk about the support they found, then soured when I realized the speech was being given in the context of a political event. But when Rudy got up there and started that "Flaming men fell out of 100 story buildings so you could vote Bush" bullshit, I was completely disgusted and had to fight changing the channel. For someone who was viewed for months to put a nice moderate face on the proceedings, his speech had more rhetoric than any commercial this year, campaign or 527. I wondered where that crowd went during Silver's speech.

What happened to all the Republicans that thought actors and entertainers should shut up and be entertainers instead of political mouthpieces, unless they're going to run for office like Ronnie & Arnie? I kept waiting for the wave of negative reacions from those people, but it never came.

Rudy lost a whole shit of respect last night in my books. Using some man's death from 100 stories for political gain was not just exploitive, it was sickening. I don't care how honest or serious he was being about it, you're still abusing it for a rally. I'm suprised MSG didn't sink and collapse under the weight of his crap.

Last night's stuff made me want to vomit, this hasn't been so bad.

The world was a lot more dangerous when you were likely to die at a younger age from a simple illness that is among one of the many we have simple cures for now. The world was a lot more dangerous when going anywhere on a trip meant riding along for days and days and days through the wilds on a horse or being pulled along by a herd of cattle. I learned that from the computer game "Oregon Trail." Anyway, with so many industrialized nations so many improvements in medicine, it's a lot easier to live a longer, happier life than it was a number of generations ago. People seem to forget that the likelyhood that you will die in a terrorist attack is very small.

Yeah, the Bush daughters were just there to be nonpolitical. I got sick of this crap when Mike Moore lorded over the bigscreen at the Movie Awards (which also sucked ass) to tell people to go see his film. GO AWAY, MTV.

That's because it's not and you've been eating what talk radio shovels at you.

I'd say the pray service going on at the end of last night's activities made it feel much more like a church than any podium.

"All kinds of queer shit" isn't stereotypical?

Group: Banned So, was it him? Or someone else?