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Okay, get this: Imagine your in Austria around the time Arnold was young. Think of what their opinons of Hitler were like then. I can tell you this: I highly suspect there would be people very supportive of Hitler and were not quiet about that fact. I'm not saying Arnold is a nazi sympathizer. Far from it. What I'm trying to say is that in his life he's seen people espouse the good and the bad and made his own decision. In the lives of most Americans in this day and age, we hear of only the bad. Anyone who speaks good of Hitler is a weirdo/skinhead/whatever. This is almost assuredly the way it ought to be, since Hitler is the most evil man in history. God, it should be blatantly obvious to you by now, but it isn't for whatever reason. I had a finish-up for this post, but lost my train of thought when my Dad started blasting the TV really loud. The point is this: A person who grew up in a Nazi-controlled country probably has a lot different experience about the whole damn thing than someone who just reads about it in history books. I know there's a better way to express this, but I can't think of one. The point is that Hitlers and Nazis are probably more of an open subject there at that time than it is here and now. If you still don't understand, you're a fucking rock. It's as fucking relevant as: And hey, he has ties to some guy with a shady past of anti-smetism. All in all, I think the guy doesn't support Hitler or the Nazis, but is probably more open to talking about it because of the culture he grew up in.
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That's no Mike Tyson. Seriously, my interest in wrestling is just nil. I have tickets to this show, but I can't manage to care about it (of course, I can't afford to travel to it either, but I'm remaining upbeat that I'll be going anyway.) Then again, this ALWAYS happens to me around No Mercy and SurSer. Vince just runs out of angles at this point.
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Bluff. And anyway: Uh... AWA? Anyway, they should have made this part of the show or something. They basically flew a guy all the way to Japan for one appearance that wasn't even part of an event so no money was made on it. I guess if the goal is to get TNA in Japan then it was a good idea. If the idea was to draw American interest in the angle then it's kinda flunky since most people here don't pay a rat's ass to what's going on in Japan anyway.
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X GONN GIVE IT TO YA, WHAT, GONN GIVE IT TO YA, HUUH! Seriously, THAT is laughably bad.
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Superstar: That's the only two I've heard with my own ears. They may or may not be more.
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Okay, let's see, the guy is born in the wake of WW2 in the country of a political leader who had a great number of conquests and followers. Certainly Arnold's actions in the past number of years prove that he isn't an anti-semite, but I don't think all of Austria shared his anti-Hitler stance. He probably conversed with people who supported Hitler, his father was a Nazi guard, correct? And thus it's likely that while he doesn't have a favorible impression of Hitler, he hasn't grown up educated in this "HITLER = ALL BAD. NOTHING GOOD ABOUT HITLER. AT ALL." mindset that we all have. I hate to draw a Bush comparison here, keep in mind I'm not meaning malice to him here, but think of Texas. For every Dixie Chick complaining about how embarassed she is the President came from Texas, there's two or more people who talk about the man with pride even if they don't agree with everything he's done. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the man's home country does have relevance, since he wasn't given the same impressions of Hitler that we were in our youth. His different viewpoint may explain why he felt he could say something flattering about the man, even if he didn't like him. I watch CNN regularly and I supported Arnold as replacement gov since Day 1 (although my recall vote was up in the air until Davis gave licenses to illegals.) I thought what the LA Times did was wrong (and appearantly 1,000+ subscribers did as well, as it hit them back pretty hard) but if I saw something blatantly anti-Arnold on CNN I'd pitch a fit about it. In this case, the statement is both a fact and relevant.
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First of a three parter: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../05/MN86744.DTL
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Living in the Sunni Triangle
Jobber of the Week replied to Jobber of the Week's topic in Current Events
How are you sure of that!? Even the US people they talked to admit that they don't inspect for civilian casualties, probably because they don't have the time. You have no evidence that they AREN'T accidentally killing civilians more than you know (and we know that these accidents happen at least sometimes. The incident involving the police officers appeared on national news over here) And no, not everybody loves us. Here, a taste of things on our side: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../13/MN20680.DTL -
This plot is held together with bubble-gum and duct tape, but it worked for Hercules, though they didn't try to drag that story into "modern day." So who knows how long it will last. And I could look like that guy..... If I really wanted to.
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Okay, so again, they're talking about it in the proper context. The author makes it sound like they wrote something like this: "Arnold Schwarzenegger announced on Friday a team of assistants to help smooth his transition into his role as California's governor. Schwarzenegger, who, like Hitler, is a native of Austria..."
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I know I've heard multiple Saliva songs now, but I know there's more than one where the singer complains about how other singers whine about how crummy their parents are, and how he never whines about that kind of thing in his music. By mentioning that over and over, he's creating a second cliche for himself.
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I just did a search for Hitler on cnn.com organized by date. That phrase doesn't appear in a one of them. I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt that it was there at one point or another, but it sounds like he's taking it out of context. It could be quite possible they were talking about the allegations/smearing/whatever, and not just casually mentioning that he comes from Hitler's home country for no reason whatsoever.
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Living in the Sunni Triangle
Jobber of the Week replied to Jobber of the Week's topic in Current Events
Oh, I'm sure there were many that were looking forward to this. The rebellion that got so close and yet so far last time proved it. I don't take what everyone in these articles said as the gospel truth, but there does seem to be one theme in their interviews, and it is a concern that troops are not looking out enough for innocents. This is much like watching news on TV. CNN and FNC show you young men firing machineguns and armed troops huddled down, while the shows that give us glimpses of what the rest of the world is seeing shows us mostly streets smeared in blood and Muslims screaming at one another and crying, etc. Neither side is everything that's happening in this war, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. -
Israel Can Launch Nuclear Weapons from Subs
Jobber of the Week replied to MrRant's topic in Current Events
Link ain't working, but I'll believe you. Yeah, that figures. I prefer the UK myself. Strong economically and militarily and a culture that, at the current time anyway, isn't too steeped in religion. They have the power of a tiny nuclear superpower. Is their economy equally well off, discounting the happy American money that lands in their lap regularly? EDIT: Appearantly so. -
Israel Can Launch Nuclear Weapons from Subs
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Frankly, all these people who endorse the thought of Israel wiping out and crushing all Arab opposition in the Middle East kind of disturb me. What happens if one of their leaders pulls a Saddam and starts behaving badly towards us? Or if they start selling all this stuff elsewhere? Without a clear and present enemy, the US will have no reason to send Israel all these generous donations of cash. Israel will find themselves suddently without what was a very dependable source of funds, but will have billions of dollars in military plans and machinery that was developed over the past conflict with our cooperation. -
HEAVENS FORBID! *falls over and dies*
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That usually implies back and forth namecalling. I just like to take whatever arguement people post and prove them wrong, then watch them try and pull unproven half-facts or careless assumptions to make their case. Problem is you did little in that post but talk smack. There's a joke in there, but I'm too tired to pull it out. Okay, now understand this: Creationism isn't just a "belief," but it might as well be. It's junk science. But the problem is that there's people who think it should be included in schools. Not only does that tiptoe close to legalized preaching in schools, but there's little to no fact involved. It's balogna, and it shouldn't be in science books. Anyhoo, that's my rebuttal to that. Case closed. And SP, if you can't take the , get out of the oven.
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LOL! Hey, you want to make your arguements, fine. But tone down the rhetoric. I could agree with you if you didn't come off as crazy.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/09/...e.ap/index.html Watch the CNN/Arizona Democratic Party Presidential Debate from Phoenix with Judy Woodruff, Candy Crowley and Jeff Greenfield at 8 p.m. EDT Thursday PHOENIX, Arizona (AP) -- The bickering Democratic presidential candidates face off Thursday in their fourth debate in five weeks, with disputes over middle-class tax cuts, Medicare and their commitment to party values dominating the fall campaign. The 90-minute debate, broadcast live on CNN, is the first since Sen. Bob Graham of Florida abandoned his 5-month-old campaign Monday after determining he could never win. Graham's departure left nine candidates, including retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark; former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean; Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri; and Sens. John Edwards of North Carolina, John Kerry of Massachusetts and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun and Al Sharpton are considered long shots at best. Polls show Dean tied or ahead in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first major contests of 2004. His anti-war, anti-establishment message has caught fire through the Internet, helping Dean raise three times more money than any of his rivals from July through September. His surge to the top has made Dean a target. Rivals accuse him of flip-flopping, playing loose with facts and shading his record as governor to pander to liberal voters. He has been criticized for showing a willingness to restrain spending in Medicare, the federal health care program for seniors treasured by many Democratic voters. Dean has rejected the criticism. Kerry has assailed Dean and Gephardt for seeking to repeal all of President Bush's tax cuts, including some favoring the middle class. Kerry and others want to roll back tax cuts only on the wealthy. In recent days, Dean has been spared some barbs while his opponents focus on Clark. The Arkansan entered the race less than a month ago, and immediately jumped to the top in national polls. Many Democrats hope he is a military-burnished alternative to Bush's perceived advantages on terrorism and national security. But his campaign has been hobbled by missteps, the latest being a power struggle that resulted in the departure of campaign manager Donnie Fowler. Many of Clark's Internet-savvy backers who gave rise to his campaign now complain that it's being taken over by career political operatives. Kerry, Lieberman and others have questions Clark's commitment to the party. He entered the race without registering as a Democrat, and just two years ago called Bush's foreign policy advisers "a great team." Lieberman, the party's 2000 vice presidential candidate, is being urged to pull out of Iowa and focus his few resources on New Hampshire and beyond. Edwards, a freshman North Carolina senator, leads in polls in neighboring South Carolina but nowhere else. Kerry and Gephardt are buoyed by their ties to Democratic establishment; Gephardt to organized labor, Kerry to elected officials and other party leaders drawn to his record as a Vietnam War hero.
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What's even worse than nothing working is that I didn't get my Baron love. Or did you quit doing those?
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Wow, a Tough Man! Laying the throwdown makes you HARDCORE, buddy! You must be a high-ranking karate master or a strongman or something to talk so confident! Oh wait. It's the internet, so nevermind.
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Headsup: Yet another debate tonight
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None of them? I thought you'd at least vote for Lieberman, if only to make some blood pressure boil in the middle east. -
Fred Phelps to put anti-gay monument @ public park
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The Media Whore has struck again. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99195,00.html (EDIT: Damnit, I typed "whole" and not "hole." Curse you, 10 Minutes Past 1AM)
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OReilly: Media shouldn't support candidates
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