NoCalMike

Fuck anyone for going to school on my tax dollars and leeching off the system while they're in this country illegally and getting paid under the table. If someone wants to come to America the right way, then they deserve their piece of the pie at dinner. But anyone who's here illegally who just leeches off the money provided by honest taxpayers is a fucking thief. What if they are paying taxes? Most immigrant, illegal or not, are working and paying taxes. If we today just went and wiped out every illegal immigrant in California alone, would you be happy and fine that you probably would have a tough time finding many fresh fruits & vegetables in your local grocery store? If you grow your own than I guess this question does not apply. See that is the biggest myth around, that illegal immigrants are just crossing the border, signing up for welfare and state benefits, and living. Immigrants have and are currently doing a lot more for to help the economy than people think. I know there are exceptions to this rule. I know you can probably go look up some article that talks about cases of a few hundred here or there doing exactly the opposite of what I stated, so go ahead if you want to, however it is not the majority.

Prop 54 is terrible. However it is worded so well that it sounds like a great idea. It just to ban race-based research, which is stupid because most racist tendencies have been found through race-based research.

Yes, and "working through injuries" or working despite being injured, does not mean he is not getting injured. I'd imagine all these nagging injuries that he is ignoring right now will lead to bigger injuries down the road.

Yah, when Brock tears an acl or quad from doing his little joggy-jump to the ring apron, his upper body physique will not look so impressive.

Maybe talent stolen is treated slightly differently to talent that came in towards the end of the other company's life. Tajiri came in earlier than Rhyno, IIRC, and while he hasn't become world champion and was the victim of racial stereotyping he hasn't been treated TOO badly. You, know, as the WWE goes. The Duds were brought in and given title runs. And what about the Radicalz? They were WCW and ex-ECW talent that were stolen, and while it's true that Benoit and Eddie should perhaps have been pushed all the way, they haven't exactly been buried. Well, except Benoit's recent A-Train problems... OK, Raven is the exception to this rule. The Radicalz don't really count. They weren't big time players as far as stardom goes before the WWE. Yes they were the best wrestlers on the planet(sanz Saturn), but any WWE mark that tells you they were a huge fan of them before coming to WWE is lying their fucking ass off, cause I remember trying to argue with people that Benoit/Eddy/Malenko were better than Rock/Austin back in the day. As far as the Dudleys go, yes they are an exception, but remember Vince did try to fuck with them, I mean D-Von the preacha-man? Vince did try to change them a bit, it just didn't work because they were too well known already. Also, with the fucked up tag team situation, they seem to be the only over face tag team that anyone cares about even though they have been overexposed for years. It's not so much that Vince minds where the wrestler came from. What matters to Vince is that HE MADE THEM A star, not someone else. He doesn't want to push a wrestler that got over big time in another company, and is carrying the same gimmick, because in his warped mind, fans will take it like, Look it's that guy from *insert company here* beating up the WWE wrestler. So Vince has to reprogram and redistribute some zany gimmick for them in order to make people think of said wrestler as that zany thing, and not that guy from *insert company here* I mean Austin had been everywhere before WWE, but the STONECOLD gimmick was WWE homegrown, and that is what matters. Same with all the Radicalz, they had basically all done everything you could possibly do in wrestling besides wrestle in a wwe ring, yet Vince refused to push them(after the initial, "My Gawd it's the Radicalz push)until he outfitted some stupid gimmicks to go with them like, "toothless aggression" or "Latino Heat wants to date Chyna"

Instead of banning wrestling moves, Vince should ban steroids and other mass building supplements that kill off any flexibility. Hell ban half the main eventers that can't execute wrestling moves other than kick, punch, signature move, pin.

Arnold's speech is actually impressive so far.

JotW, I am not saying he has never taken a stance or given an opinion. However, I meant he never had to make actual political decisions when it counted. I am not gonna write the guy off yet, but I am just not sure how much he is willing to rock the boat that helped sail him into the governor's seat.

An American Werewolf in London Hellraiser The Beyond Oh and Scream wasn't a horror movie, it was a satire on the slasher genre by Wes Craven. It did so good money-wise that it spawned two cash cow sequels, giving off the impression that it was a horror trilogy.

The question isn't the violence, but the style of violence. I mean is it bloody violence like kitana sword ripping flesh and streaks of blood violence, or is it more "on-impact" violence where people get hit a lot and just get knocked around, but with little blood being shed? There are lots of styles of violence.

Wow, Pete Wilson on TV speaking on people voting against special interests, bwahaha, the nerve. How dare that fuckhead talk about the deteriation of CA, he played a big fucking part of it.

Has Arnold spoken yet? Davis just got done congradulating Arnold, so I guess Arnold will be on soon.

It's called "Ventura's America" It was pretty nice and refreshing to see someone who dislikes both the republican & democratic parties speak his mind and actually get a spot on tv to do so. He stuck to the issues pretty good. His studio audience was tiny, however that is usually the way it goes when the show is starting out. Anyone else see it? Saturdays at 4pm pacific time.

Can you really say this confidently? He has never served office before. He has no history to back up his claims. I am pretty sure he can skate on being pro-choice, since the majority of the entire country/government is, but everything else is up in the air. Also if social issues are as much of a non-factor republicans claimed before the election, than what does it matter about those three issues you listed? The Republicans are going to want payback for spinning him into office and throwing all support and backing behind him. Once again, let me remind you, Arnold was running as a republican, not as an independent.

Cruz Bustamante speaking on the end of prop 54 on MSNBC right now.

You do realize that a recall requires voter signatures, do you not? You do realize that although Davis narrowly defeated Simon, the people who voted for Simon did not appear in droves for this recall initially, do you not? You do realize that this recall was not front page news until a millionaire dumped money into it like mad, do you not? Money, backing, and voter dissatisfaction on this recall (trust me, a lot of people voted for the recall but were not nuts with the idea of having one) casts a large shadow of doubt on having another. Actually, the sigs on the recall petition don't have to be people that have ever voted or even registered to vote. That is a shame.

Maybe, maybe not, but I do hope this gives the pro-choice, pro-gay rights people in the party the "I told ya so" that they need to break the fundies' power grip on the party. I know as a Democrat that's a bad thing since it makes Republicans more electable, but at the same time if it keeps fundies' candidates from running, it means they don't risk winning and fucking us up even more. I dunno. Most supporters of Arnold on the conservative side had said assinine things such as, "social issues, don't matter in this election" so it will be interesting to see what happens the first time one comes up where Arnold is supposedly against the majority of his party.

thank goodness.

It seemed to me that your implication that this "massive campiagn" invented problems and convinced people that there were problems that weren't really there. Ok. I don't think Davis is any kind of angel in this whole mess. Hell I didn't vote for him in the last election. I just think that Republicans took very complicated issues and just used a mass campaign to say, "got a problem, see Gray Davis" it has been this day in and day out, without ANY discussion of how these problems came about. I also feel that Arnold won because the general population really felt they were getting an idepedent thinking mind in him, which I really disagree with.

Jesse Venture just schooled Chris Matthews on every question on Hardball talking about whether Arnold would ring in some indepdent movement(bwahahaha). So what does he get for his effort, well he gets cut off early, that's what.

11 months what? What are you talking about? I never said everything was a right wing conspiracy. Christ, I never said Davis was a good govenor. Stop putting words in my mouth.

:edit: my bad

Yah, cause the Giants are just so used to winning!?! Bwahahaha. You better hope Bonds plays another 20 years.

Ermm, NO. The Recall effort came about 2 months into Gray Davis's second term. This was 2 months after the majority put him in office. There is no way possible in 2 months that things went that downhill that fast. It was all about a guy with 2 million dollars to spend on spewing bullshit who wanted to be governor. Remember, originally this recall had nothing to do with policy or Arnold, it was about Issa, a guy who no one gave two shits about a few years ago, pouring 2 million dollars into a scheme to get Davis out of office. People were paid to sign the petition in many cases, and the thing just took off. There was a massive campaign to just blame anything and everything on Gray Davis, and after watching it day in and day out on tv for 6 months, people finally started to buy into the bullshit.

I think it also has to do with a each new generation of youth wanting their own identity, and right now the style of music on mainstream radio is what the mass population feels is the best way to express themselves....aww so misguided.