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Umm...when are you counting from? I seem to remember Jericho being the first person in that list... at that point, they were still two separate belts, and weren't "merged" until HHH beat Jericho. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jericho held the WCW World Title, not the World Heavweight Championship which didn't come into existence until 9 months after Jericho became Undisputed Champ. Same appearance, different title.

Since being drafted to SD. . . August 11, 2005 - Smackdown!: Randy Orton vs Kamala ended in a No Contest when an eerie messege from the Undertaker played.. August 18, 2005 - Smackdown!: Randy Orton defeated Chris Benoit with help from Orlando Jordan and an RKO! August 21, 2005 - Summerslam: Randy Orton defeated The Undertaker in a Grudge match with help from "Cowboy" Bob Orton! August 25, 2005 - Smackdown!: Randy Orton defeated Hardcore Holly with help from "Cowboy" Bob Orton.. September 16, 2005 - Smackdown!: The Undertaker defeated Randy Orton w/Cowboy Bob Orton October 7, 2005 - Smackdown!: Roddy Piper vs Randy Orton & Bob Orton in a Handicap match when Piper pinned Cowboy Bob! October 9, 2005 - No Mercy: Randy Orton & Bob Orton defeated The Undertaker in a Handicap Casket Match.. October 14, 2005 - SD!: Eddie Guerrero defeated Randy Orton by DQ after Bob Orton interfered in a #1 Contenders match! October 21, 2005 - Smackdown!: Batista & Eddie Guerrero vs Randy Orton & Mr. Kennedy ended in a No Contest! October 28, 2005 - Smackdown!: Batista & Eddie Guerrero & Roddy Piper beat Randy Orton & Bob Orton & Ken Kennedy November 11, 2005 - Smackdown!: Rey Mysterio defeated Randy Orton (with "Cowboy" Bob Orton) in a Survivor Series team qualifying match via DQ. My question to you is where is this talent Orton has supposedly been facing and beating? In the last 3 months he's been booked worse than Eddie was during his "I can't beat Rey" gimmick.

Swiss cheese has some holes, your idea is nothing BUT holes. Lashley has now been on TV a grand total of 8 times, and you want him to dominate Batista who hasn't lost a meaningful match in about a year or so. As if that wasn't bad enough, then you want Lashley to retain the title for 4 1/2 months or so and be involved in a Main Event at WrestleMania! That's basically all you need to know about why the idea sucks. Seriously, there's nothing good about it.

Why exactly are you so intent on stealing a storyline from the shittiest of the four shitty Rocky sequels?

If he underrotates on the front flip he'll basically pull a Lesnar SSP landing. . . with a guy on his back at the time. It's not worth the risk.

My guess is Orton will pin Eddie in a battle of cheating that ultimately Cowboy Bob sways with his general shittiness thus giving me no reason to care about SD until Batista comes back and kills Orton.

September 23, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley defeated Simon Dean September 30, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley squashed Russell Simpson October 7, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley defeated Eddie Craven.. October 9, 2005 - No Mercy: Bobby Lashley defeated Simon Dean in 2-minutes and forced him to eat 20 cheeseburgers! October 14, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley squashed Nunzio w/Big Vito.. October 21, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley squashed Big Vito w/Nunzio.. November 4, 2005 - Smackdown!: Bobby Lashley squashed Nunzio & Big Vito.. Do you hate SD by any chance? I only ask because you want green as grass Bobby Lashley to dominate Batista (short match) on a Big Four PPV, and then you want him to compete in one of the two or three Main Events at WrestleMania. This is a guy with 7 appearances on TV so far and whose career highlight to date is beating Nunzio & Big Vito in a handicap match. I would completely give up on the brand if this is the best they could come up with.

I know, that's what I was trying to get at. If the announcers don't have a name for your finisher yet, and you've only been on TV for 3 months, you're not ready for the World Title on your show. The bad thing is that if they make a horrible choice for champ, we're likely stuck with that guy headling SD's matches for SurSer, the Rumble and possibly WM, which is not going to be good.

Kennedy would get shitted on worse than Orton did when he turned face. I'd go so far as to say it would kill his career to put the title on him when his finisher isn't even a "name" move yet. Does Kennedy have potential? Yes. Does he have credibility? Absolutely not. The only legit choices at this point are Eddie, then a major step down to Rey, Benoit, Orton & JBL, and I'd rank them in that order given their current storylines and recent booking. If they put the belt on anyone outside of that group they're insane, unless Edge moves to SD as a transitional champ, and even then I think the fans would hate that.

Why not just have Batista get "injured" trying to do something that would conceivably look plausible, like a Batista Bomb on Big Show in the SS match, and then announce he tore up his back the following week on SD? Then you can do a tournament where Eddie can win the title as a face, or just name 4 guys and have a match for the strap at Armageddon with Eddie winning. He can then dick around with JBL & Orton (and maybe Booker at some point) temporarily until Batista comes back and go from there with the original storyline.

For the love of God why does anyone want to see Rey beat Eddie AGAIN? I don't remember ever seeing a top flight worker lose to the same guy as many times in a year as Eddie did to Rey. For that alone he should be rewarded with a title run.

Not anymore, in a promo Bischoff changed it to the WWE Title shortly after Batista left. A lot of people thought Edge was going to be screwed, so instead of making an interesting angle of it, they took the easy way out and just ignored their own internal logic again.

No, no it wouldn't. Either you waste Taker's streak on Batista who is almost as old as he is, or you waste Batista's first significant loss in forever on a guy who doesn't need the rub. It would be even WORSE if it was for the title.

Damn it dude, I meant that respectively. Benoit is the Bret Hart of this generation with the exception that he has not much WWE history to back up his legacy compared to Harts. Think before you type. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 2nd rate is NEVER a compliment. It by definition implies you're not on the same level as anything that would be considered good or "first rate". Tell anyone you think they're second rate and see what happens. What I think you meant to say is the second coming. Your choice of words was awful if you meant that in a respectful way.

There's no doubt Rey is over, and sells merch, but what's the positive to making him the champ? When is the last time Rey won a non-Cruiserweight division match without "lucking out"? He's never been portrayed in a way where his matches look like anything but flukes or flash pins where he stuns someone because he's not a technical wrestler and can't overpower anyone. I just find his act tiring because it's the same match all the time. He would get murdered on the mic by the better speakers on SD (which incidentally are the main heels and Eddie), and aside from "realizing his boyhood dream" I don't see any benefit to giving him the title, or even worse, letting him hold it for a lengthy period of time.

When was this? All I saw him do earlier this year was barely elevate himself despite beating Eddie at least a half dozen times in a row. I don't think you can book a ~5'3 160 pound babyface World Champion in McMahon world. It just doesn't make sense even with SD having the smaller roster as a whole. I think seeing 18 'ranas per match, running through every larger guy's legs and that bullshit pin of his where the opponent has to raise their legs so he can hook them would get tiring by week 3 of his run as THE guy on a show. I don't think little Rey burying his opponents in the ring would be the way to book themselves out of this hole, especially given his practically non-existent mic skills.

That makes it sound like a minor injury. There's a chance he tore a lat so badly it rolled up in his back. If he ends up getting surgery on that, which seems like the only option if it was that serious, it's doubtful he'd be back until sometime between the Rumble and WM at best. SD just got fucked hard.

Why should I give Vince what he wants, when he chooses not to give me what I want, ie a quality product?

Shelton with mic time? My brain hurts.

While RAW might end up being decent, I would guess that they have a ready made excuse if the ratings are bad because the MNF game (Colts/Pats) will likely do the best number of any game on their schedule by a pretty wide margin.

I don't remember when he started doing it, but basically it was part of his gimmick that it was his way to "mark his territory" with the ring being his Serengeti of course. In its own way it makes sense, but it's part and parcel of his whole character.

C'mon, when you argue simply for the sake of arguing you don't let little things like facts get in your way. I'm still curious as to what part of NY has an enforced 10 PM curfew, yet still had people trick or treating at 11:30, but he casually sidestepped that argument too. Only an idiot would say that Halloween was a big enough non holiday to impact TV ratings, so there you go.

Why waste your biggest angle/moment on RAW since Cena got moved there in week 1 of the draft lottery on a throwaway PPV on a Tuesday no less? Let it simmer for a couple more weeks and then do it at Survivor Series where it will play to at least twice the audience. Post SurSer is the build up to the Rumble, and that's where a newly turned heel Cena can be a factor since he'd obviously want the title back, and Bischoff and Angle could effectively just block him from getting a rematch. It would be fuzzy logic that Cena would need to win the Rumble to get his shot at regaining the title, but it would at least give him a purpose without hotshotting an Angle turn, or uniting Cena with the Bisch.

Oh boy. Am I the only one who sees the insanity in that statement? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If firing JR, in a roundabout way leads to Joey Styles being his longterm replacement because Coach failed miserably, and they couldn't get Mike Goldberg who are we to complain? I think what the OP was trying to get at is that sometimes you have to try new things even when odds are they will fail. Let's be honest RAW needed a shake up, although most would agree it was Lawler that needed the boot, and not Ross. If TT was any indication, Vince once again lucked out and got where he needed to and Joey got enough money to make it worth his while. We all win.

And Test. Bring in Test too. He can reign freely on top, as he's about three feet taller than everyone else in TNA. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They already have a generic Test in TNA and he's insanely over for reasons no one can understand. I don't think the TNA fanbase could handle the awesomeness of two Tests in one promotion! [/sarcasm]