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Here Look around, at the last couple pages and you should find a few ROH matches sprinkled in for DL. ROH creates themes around the shows and breaks their history into chapters Chapter 1: 2/23/02 "Era Of Honor Begins" to 2/8/03 "First Anniversary Show" Chapter 2: 3/15/03 "Expect The Unexpected" to 3/12/04 "At Our Best" Chapter 3: 4/23/04 "Reborn: Stage One" to 12/26/04 "Final Battle 2004" Chapter 4: 1/15/05 "It All Begins" to 6/12/05 "The Future Is Now" Chapter 5: 6/18/05 "Death Before Dishonor III" to 8/12/05 "Redemption" Chapter 6: 8/13/05 "Punk: The Final Chapter" to 2/11/06 "Unscripted II" Chapter 7: 2/25/06 "Fourth Anniversary Show" to 4/22/06 "The 100th Show" Chapter 8: 4/28/06 "Weekend Of Champions: Night One" to 12/23/06 "Final Battle 2006" That's where you would start to be right up to date as of right now. In this fourm (Other Promotions), there should be a thread called "ROH DVD's". Those will indicate which shows that are the most worth getting. It helps greatly if you have a certain style that you like as some shows can cater more concisely with your likings.

They have video newswires, where they include highlights and on occasions, entire matches (usually the openers or just a typical squash match to put over a talent). You can find alot of matches over the internet (including the thread in general wrestling). To get the full effect, you should get the DVD's. They are usually priced $20 for each DVD ($12 for older DVD's) but they often have tremendous sales that allow you to get a good amoint at once. Look out for the $10 sale (which occurs once every 6 weeks) where you could get 10 dvd's for just $100 bucks (these shows are usually older shows of at least a year or earlier). There's a thread somewhere right here about which shows to buy. I'd suggest starting recently as most shows from 2002/2003 were one match shows (that you can find on the 'net anyways). While 2004 was a tremendously strong year, it's already out-dated in context to what is currently going on. You can obviously attend live events if you live in a ROH market (NYC/Long Island/New Jersey/Philly/Boston/Hartford/Dayton/Chicago/Liverpool/Detroit/St. Paul) and if you live in Canada, they air ROH on the Fight Network.

This moronic debate about "The Most Clutch Active Player".

Punk losing was a matter of time. It's for the best but the booking and timing was poor. If it leads to Punk getting the final win in a blowoff, then it's no big deal but if its just another WWE mismanaged situation, then its a waste.

That might be worth the trip up.

Shit like this is exactly why we need a playoff. Nobody knows what would happen. It seems like every national title game has a team that is a dead on stone cold lock to win and nobody gives the other team a chance to win. 2002 Miami was a team full of NFL players who were going to wipe the field with the "slow and overrated" Ohio State who struggled to defeat every opponent they played. Ohio State won. 2004 Oklahoma is supposed to be the greatest team ever led by all-everything freshman Adrian Peterson and returning Heisman winner Jason White, they proceed to get assraped by USC in the title game. 2005 USC is the new greatest team ever with the greatest offense ever. They get beat by Texas. 2006 Boise State over Oklahoma and Florida over Ohio State, both teams weren't given a chance in hell of winning by any fans or anyone in the media. I realize Boise State is a lot less likely to pull off the upset than teams I listed from previous years, but we don't know - maybe they would. We'll never know though, because this system is a piece of shit. Who besides you know who thought Oklahoma was the greatest team ever? Oklahoma was picked by more people, but it was hardly a monumental upset. Isn't that the team ESPN (OOPS! Sorry!) hyped along those lines? Basically the same treatment USC got last year and to an lesser extent, Ohio State this recent month.

Who is added to the ballot next year?

Things aren't ever going to be right with the NCAA regarding football. We've been begging for a playoff for years now and while the BCS system works if you get lucky and there are two undefeated undoubted contenders at the end of the season but that obviously doesn't happen enough. It annoys me that other leagues and sports are wise enough to adapt to changes or make things better. Hell, even nascar of all people sat back and went "well, that gave us better ratings but let's tweak it to be fair to the drivers" and changed their playoff system for the better. All the NCAA does is add more games and more debate while still cashing in. They'll modify it again but on January 8th, 2008 we'll still be complaining that it wasn't done right.

When the only good thing about a show is a diva's tag match and that Ace Steel got a paycheck for being Donald Trump, that should indicate how bad this show was.

You'd think he'd have some sort of talent when you look at all the amatuer stuff he's excelled in. We thought that with Dan Severn.

The sad thing is that Ace probably made more money doing the Trump then he does in a whole month of working indies. He's been doing stuff for WWF for years now, might as well sign the guy for good.

Since Ace was Donald, Cabana should have played Rosie.

Apparently, it was Ace Steel playing Donald Trump.

Carlito isn't getting pushed because he's a lazy fucker in the ring. He's just lazy in general realy he lets shitty guys outwork him and acts like he could give a shit.......wonder why he's not getting pushed? cause--->effect shitty booking---->lazy, unmotivated wrestler see Booker T pre-fall 05. I'm sorry a good wrestler doesn't tank a year of work because he is unhappy with his booking. You are giving them all the more reason to never push you........I don't see Benoit tanking matches. Jericho explained that the lack of confidence from the bookers will derail a wrestler's motivation in a big way. Benoit's an old-school machine. Carlito is the new breed, brought up as a star thanks to his father and got a big push out the gate and was sent down and he got lazy and apathetic. Quite normal.

Carlito isn't getting pushed because he's a lazy fucker in the ring. He's just lazy in general realy he lets shitty guys outwork him and acts like he could give a shit.......wonder why he's not getting pushed? RVD: Hey, now that's cool.

Can we get the Torrie turn out of the way for the epic main event? Please!

That match might not even be the Worst Match Of The Night. St. Louis got screwed hard.

This crowd better get some awesome dark main event after the shit they just went through.

I never thought a Hogan/Andre duplication could be as bad as the original.

This has actually gotten over 5 minutes with no end in sight.

Vince will do anything to keep his buddies at Universial happy.

Did I just see a pre-show hype for CM Punk/Holly? Wow. Even more strange. Goldberg/Lesnar. Boy that was a interesting night.

I'm starting to think we need to stop blaming Vince for the recent problems. It seems as if Universial and NBC have worse ideas the Vince does.

is it because she stopped wearing the thong under her skirt and now it's more of a bikini bottom? No. It's her personality. Ah you like the crazy lesbian thing better. Brings me back memories.

is it because she stopped wearing the thong under her skirt and now it's more of a bikini bottom? No. It's her personality.