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I agree that they worked tremendously with each other in that match, and they do have a good chemistry. However, if you team them up, you don't just run the angle where they are whacky tag partners that hate each other, you run the angle where they are two main eventers that will be facing midcard wrestlers. They would just dominate the division and bring it down even further. This sort of thing is what destroyed the division to begin with.

It is a World Title in the WWE world. Whether it is viewed in the same vein as the World Titles on Raw and Smackdown is a different matter. Of course, the ECW title is viewed by more people than the NWA or ROH titles, bank on that.

I am looking forward to this as well.

This failed. I thought it was going to be a lot better. I blame Smues.

As I said in the first post of this topic, a wrestler's legacy is the memories he leaves behind. Wrestlemania has always been that big stage in WWE, and many wrestlers have had the desire to have that match that fans talked about for years. Currently, Ric Flair is wanting to end his career by having one more great match at Wrestlemania; he hand-picked Shawn Michaels as his opponent for that very reason (storyline and real life). Shawn seems to have a burning desire to put on memorable performance after memorable performance at WM, and steal the show (again, storyline and real life). But what if Shawn had put on stinkers at every single WM? Would he still be regarded as he is? What if he would have failed at every show except WMX? He would have broken out in that same major way, but mediocre match after mediocre match could have been doom for him. There is a pressure to perform at a high level at WM. Not only by the wrestlers on themselves, but a lot of pressure from the fans as well. We expect at least one great match every year, because it is Wrestlemania! The first Wrestlemania doesn't hold up as much over time. I can't think of a single match that I would love to watch from that show right now. At the time, it was new and innovative, and it was going to be a big deal no matter what. WM2 had a different kind of build for me, in that I was dying to see Hulk bounce back from the vicious attack that King Kong Bundy laid on him. However, there wasn't really a mat classic or super-hot match that stands out for me today. WM3 changed all that. Not only was there a main event that was one of the most historic matches in history, but the undercard had Savage/Steamboat which blew the roof off the place and stole the show. A guy I talked to at the airport after WMXIX said he had gone to WM3 as a young kid and got to go backstage. He said he vividly remembers Vince McMahon being furious with both Savage and Steamboat because they overshadowed Hogan/Andre. That may or may not be true, as I can't verify it, but I could definitely see that happening. Hogan/Andre was that first big WM match that has become a staple that WWE at least strives for each year. However, that undercard match would also lay the foundation for something else: a breakout match that people would remember for ages to come. Over the years, there have been many matches and many performers at WM, but to me, some have used WM to cement themselves in the history of wrestling forever. It has been pointed out in this thread that Austin was made by his match with Bret at WMXIII. That is hard to argue against. King of the RIng might have been the birth of Austin, and his Raw moments might have kept inching him closer to the top, but that match at WM made him. Shawn was made for the most part in the ladder match at WMX. It could even be argued that Hogan was made (even though he was the top star for 3 years prior) by what transpired at WMIII. When you look at some of the top performances at WM over the years, you can definitely see that some performers have legacies that have been anchored by what they did at WM. It doesn't matter that Shawn has an overwhelmingly losing record, it's the performances he put on in the process. It doesn't matter that Undertaker has faced the big monster du jour year in year out until recently, it only matters that he has that huge undefeated streak. Lately, he has been having better matches, which only adds to that legacy at WM. One other major thing that WM has been able to do is utilize the special entrance. Shawn coming down the zipline, Triple H rising up on his throne, Undertaker with all the gothic entrances over the years...all of those are highlights you see played over and over that make it even more memorable. It can add just that much more anticipation before the match, giving it that big match feel. Sometimes, "boxing style" intros are coupled with this and which makes it even more special. Sometimes, though, I can't remember if some entrances happened at WM or not. The glass breaking and Stone Cold walking out from behind it; Taker in a cape and a pointed cowl behind his head as fire lights torches as he walks by; sometimes I confuse entrances like these as WM moments, even though those two examples may very well be WM moments. One thing is certain, though: a big time entrance with a big time match might as well put you down in the annals of history as far as wrestling goes. We fans will be discussing it for years. Additional Questions 1. What wrestler has had the most memorable Mania matches for you? I think it would have to be Shawn. Arguments can be made for Hogan, Savage, Austin, Rock, and Taker. No coincidence that those are some of the biggest names in history. 2. Has anyone been "made" from a Wrestlemania match? If so, whom? Yes, as I stated above, Shawn and Austin were both made at WM, and you could argue that Hogan and Savage were to a point as well. 3. What match do you think of first when you think of a big Mania match? Hogan/Andre as it was really the first huge match that made WM what it is today. 4. How important is a memorable entrance for a match at Mania? How much does that add to the feel of the match? It's not a necessity, but it surely helps. Like I said, you see replays of those memorable entrances at least every year, and it just makes WM the biggest show of the year. 5. Who has had the best Mania entrance that has added to the feel of the match? I started getting hyped up for Triple H/Cena due to H coming up from the stage sitting on his throne. However, that Taker entrance I described above (if it was at Mania) has always stood out as the best entrance of all time for me. If it wasn't at Mania, I will go with the throne. Much love for those who mentioned the Ultimate Warrior walking to the ring for the only time in his career. I think that was a necessity for him to be able to finish that match, but it definitely added a layer to that match as well. As an aside, let me know if you like these Town Halls. We had been discussing how to get more discussion going in this folder, and I decided to try this. I definitely think it helps when you state your own opinions on the subject and then answer the related questions, so please try to stick with that format. If you have any ideas for future Town Halls that you would like to see, feel free to message me.

Agreed. But I'm saying they want to keep some women "wrestlers" on SD so they could have matches that aren't between two models with not much experience. I get what you are saying, but they want to keep both wrestlers and models on each show. Back to tag teams... Anyone have ideas for tag teams based on the current roster?

Althought it seems like the natural thing to do is have all the women wrestlers on Raw, WWE will never do that. They want to hit that demographic with every show, even if there isn't a title on every show. It might not make sense to us, but that is why they do it.

Several things have hurt the division. One major thing is the brand split. Even if the division consisted of 6 established teams at the time, splitting up Raw and Smackdown would have made it 3 teams per show, which is terrible. Tag teams break up due to many reasons, including guys breaking out as singles wrestlers, which has also hurt the division. I think a tournament to unify the belts and have them float between Smackdown and ECW would be the best thing. You listed 10 teams, so let's say they get 6 other teams just for the tournament. They might make new teams from wrestlers currently in WWE, bring up people from developmental, and get some Japanese teams to make cameos for the tournament. Everyone likes a good tournament, and it could have an old scool NWA feel to it. I suggested something similar like this before and called it the Bischoff Cup because it could have been his idea as General Manager. So, name it after some legend and have them be present, and perhaps even manage the winning team. In fact, some of the best tag teams in history have had managers, and that is something WWE needs to get back to.

I just told CWM this is the best the WWE folder has been in years, if not ever.

I haven't seen the spoilers, so I'm probably going to be way off. I see Undertaker interrupting the burial service, getting the upper hand, but eventually falling to the numbers and getting laid out as the announcers speculate that the streak could be over at Wrestlemania.

I'm sure those guys don't want that much of a hassle, and if no one was around, you would have to wait for a while to be able to discuss stuff going on. Edit---Also, it should only take a warning or so to curttail each poster from making an unnecessary thread should any of them be made. I don't think it's going to be a problem.

I don't see it.

If it works the way it should, you will be able to pick up the news bits just by browsing the folder instead of scouring through one large thread.

But, the WWE uses only steel for their ladders, chairs, steps, etc.

What is your dilemma, Smitty?

Wasn't that what I said?

It doesn't bother me if you go by the 5 year rule, the start of the attitude era, the name change to WWE, or whatever. I was thinking that if discussion involves a wrestler that is currently on the roster, then it should be okay in here. As an example, with the Triple H/Steph/Angle thread I made, I had no problem with it being moved to General Wrestling because I forgot the 5 year rule. However, who's to say that discussion wouldn't evolve into Triple H's current character some? I think that is a decent rule to abide by, and a fairly easier one than the others. What if an angle started 5 years and 2 months ago, but ran for 8 months? Where do you put that? If it involves people currently on the roster, talk about it here.

This is not an awful suggestions per se, but it would be difficult to do. Filter it so that whatever Matt Young posts is not bitching, complaining, or talking about how much he is well-liked everywhere but here.

World filter: rape = surprise sex

I would like to report Venkman for abusing the report feature earlier.

INVESTIGATE, MATT! TELL WHAT YOU KNOW!

Not unless you use the same password for your email password and they randomly guess your email login.

Yes, one week is fair. He was voted as worst by his peers. Well, none of us are at his level, but you know what I mean.

Makes sense.

Recruiters lie.