Hasbeen1
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They're actors in a storyline. I said something similar in the smackdown post so I'll make this one brief, if an actress on Grey's Anatomy or whatever show loses a loved one to disease, should that show ban any disease storylines? Or murder on CSI?
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Vicki Guerrero is an actress now. As bad as it might sound, she's paid to play a part, nobody is making her stay. I'm sure there are actors and actresses who lose a loved one and then have to be in a movie where there's a death, and I'm sure there reminded of it, with car wrecks, cancer, etc that might have been the same in their own situation.
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No Benoit, Kennedy, Undertaker, Booker, Mysterio, they have by my count only 22 active in-ring males on the current roster. WCW had 100 or more it seemed and couldn't get it right. A 56 year old is in the feature match, tag champs were virtual unknowns not long ago, same for the US champ, and still it beats the stuffing out of Raw, again. I just watched a tape of it, even the tributes weren't that bad because of Regal's performance, and Slaughter's over the top flattery. Do Hayes and Rhodes get the credit for this? I also loved JBL's reaction to the crowd booing the 10 bell salute.
Really, should this line-up:
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/
Result in that much better shows than this line-up?
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/
About the only thing I'm consistently liking on Raw, when I do watch, is Cade and Murdoch, not counting when Matt Hardy or others "cross brands." They wasted chances to turn Eugene and Cryme Time, I doubt most anyone would care now if that happened.
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The big problem comes from that fine line between: protest vs incite.Protesting should be allowed in most cases, but when does inciting become the level. If you are in lets say, Houston, TX and stomped on the flag. Expect some of the locals to go and bash your skull in. But if you Mobile, AL and said white power with 3 dozen other guys in white hoods, expect nothing more than a shouting match with a few blacks on the other side of the street.
Actually no, if it was known they'd be in town, you'd have a lot of whites shouting them down too. Glad to know you think everyone in the South thinks the KKK is right.
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The Spurs weren't way better than the Suns. They were just given that series due to a lame rule. Anyway, the Cavs certainly go up there with the worst teams to ever make the Finals, mainly because they did little of note to get this far to begin with. Beating the Wizards without Arenas and Butler? A .500 Nets team? I guess they did get by the Pistons but that's about it. I'm torn as to whether the Cavs are worse than the 2002 Nets that got swept by the Lakers, but at least New Jersey made it back the following year. The worst Finals team is still probably the 1981 Rockets (40-42...losing record and made the Finals) but they at least took the Celtics to a 6 game series.The NBA is in serious trouble right now. It's got to be the only pro sport that isn't as popular as its college counterpart.
Don't let people paying attention to the sport for one month fool you. The NBA is still more popular. Just two unpopular teams made the finals. two defensive teams that don't shoot particularly well.
The worse thing to happen for the NBA was Durant and Oden going out west too.
Also, if they would force some east teams to change coaches, they also would be more exciting and better. Off the top of my head I can think of 6 teams (Detroit, Orlando, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Altanta) that are built to run and exciting brand of running/scoring basketball and all of their coaches insist on a half court set and get nothing done which leads to boring basketball.
The East has the talent, they don't have the proper thinking.
Plus, seriously, the East won the Championship last year. And 2 years before that. The west is just dominating the regular season and this year was pretty ugly.
If Stern had any guts he'd have a rule forciing players to wait until they're three years out of high school to be drafted. One is much better than straight out of high school, but the NFL has a three year rule. Imagine how much better the ratings would be if the average fan actually knew who the players were, other than the top few stars. Players like Jordan. Bird, Magic, Shaquille, were known before they ever got into the pros. Lebron James would be an ever bigger name, and a more polished player, if he'd gone to Ohio State, North Carolina, for three years and entered the league this season. As for the finals this year, I tried to watch two different games, fell asleep both times after probably 15 minutes.
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I have a vague suspicion London wasn't laughing for any reason other than he just found Vince funny and couldn't stop himself.And London is doing quite well for himself in WWE, considering his size. He's getting a reasonable push, he's not being buried, and he doesn't seem to be in danger of getting fired. All things considered, I'm sure London is quite happy to be where he is.
After what happened on RAW, the joke has been "...and the new, ROH champion, Paul London", and add to that mess the fact that TMZ quoted him as the one telling a fan that Ashley would be doing Survivor, he's not in the good graces of WWE right now.
Here is a press release from the Wilkes-Barre, PA police department website:
Information regarding WWE Event at Wachovia ArenaFor verification purposes regarding those inquiring as to the alleged car bombing of WWE Chairman Vince McMahon, at the Wachovia Arena in Wilkes-Barre Township on Monday, June 11, 2007, the incident was a staged event, prearranged with Fire Department personnel and authorized by Township Code Enforcement officials. All necessary precautions were taken during the filming of the event so as to ensure the safety and security of all persons involved in the event. Mr. McMahon was not injured during the event contrary to what is being reported on internet web sites and other media sources.
You can visit our local newspaper media for the related stories to this event:
An explosion of publicity for McMahon? | Wilkes-Barre News | The Times Leader
The Citizens Voice - Homicide that never happened here shown live on cable
“The end result is everybody thought it was real, and we got inundated with calls about the homicide that doesn’t exist,” Clark said. “It comes down to the old adage you don’t always believe what you see on TV.”
Everybody thought it was real, Lol. Okay.
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Is there a list of matches somewhere for the Horsemen DVD. I could have gotten it today but the matches weren't on the box.
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Random order
Cena
Danielson
Edge
MVP
Kennedy
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American Beauty sucked.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI20suCV9B4
Backlund-Snuka in the cage. This has probably been put on here before but added it since there's some great old stuff in the related items section.
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I've never even heard of Men in Trees or Brothers and Sisters, I guess they'd be new to me even though they're returning. What happened to that show the thieves robbing Mick Jagger, was that Men in Trees?
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Putting Foley in the headline was a silly reference to the Schiavone comment on Nitro. Regardless of where they were 42 is still amazing to me, when any independent show will get that with wrestlers nobody ever heard of. They were on national cable TV every afternoon and Morton and Gibson were one of the most well known tag teams in the country, just a year or two before that I'd say Morton was one of the top 10 most popular wrestlers in the country.
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Kevin Sullivan ring entrance, sounds like the first appearance of Woman. I love Gordon Solie's comment-"Frankly, there isn't much left to be said...Little or nothing can be said about this." You have to love her outfit. If they could have put 1/10 of this gimmick into the Dungeon of Doom later the pre-NWO WCW would have been a lot more exciting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWP8dl0q3ZA
Sullivan vs Blackjack Mullligan around the same time. Sullivan's ring entrance music really got me laughing, I'd forgotten he'd used that. It's not the same as the first one, believe me. Nice short brawl. Mulligan was certainly past his prime but could still be used like this, he was wasted as a cartoon cowboy in the WWF a couple of years later but that's what New York was at the time. Crowd is hot, Solie captures it naturally, "This crowd wants to see Sullivan punished!" That they did.
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How did it go with Jake Roberts?
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I don't get what your point is. Are you trying to point out that, that show only drew 42 people or are you trying to point something else out?Both, the last is if not for horrible decisions the AWA might be the only major wrestling company today. The first was that it was a huge surprise the show just drew that, even if Foley was basically an unknown at the time and it was in the Northeast. I'm wondering if it was outdoor show and weather kept most away, something like that.
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I came across this result a couple of nights ago, from the AWA. I would guess Foley was just a one-night pickup since they were running in CT.
6/24/88 New Haven, CT
AWA Tag Team Champions Badd Company Pat Tanaka & Paul Diamond dcor Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson
AWA Champion Jerry Lawler beat Curt Hennig
Wahoo McDaniel dcor Manny Fernandez
Madusa Macelli beat Heidi Lee Morgan
Cheetah Kid beat Cactus Jack
Damien Kane beat Ray Oddyssey
att: 42
That amazes me, you could get 42 from my neighborhood to come out right now and watch the guys still wrestling or even still alive, right now. I don't know if this was a high school show, some sort of thing at a mall or business center parking lot.
I still don't have much sympathy for Gagne. Even that line-up above should have done better numbers. Over a four year or five year period they had Hogan, Ventura, the Road Warriors, the Freebirds, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Shawn Michaels, Scott Hall, Leon White (eventually Vader), Sgt Slaughter, Hennig and many more. They also worked with Memphis, if they could have kept it up Lawler, Sid Vicious, a young Jarrett, Scott Steiner, and the "Master of Pain" (future Undertaker) could have been on ESPN. No league with that channel to showcase their wrestlers should have folded. You can say the WWF and NWA took their talent, well if they'd been making money they could have kept the talent or at least of a lot of it. It got to the point even wrestlers like Baron Von Rasche and Boris Zukhov were signed away, just to completely bury it. They had the Road Warriors, instead of putting them in there with young teams or over wrestlers like Hall and Hennig, the Rockers, they were challenged by Baron Von Rasche, Jerry Blackwell, etc before going to TBS.
Here are wrestlers who were still available in their last two years of existence, not even counting the likes of the Rockers, the Nasty Boys, Curt Hennig and Scott Hall who left. I'm also not counting ones from Memphis like Lawler, Steiner and Vicious or from World Class, with the Von Erichs mainly, they booked a few shows together. The wrestlers aren't listed necessarily how they were booked at the time but how I'd have been booking them. Some of them were just for a few shows so to be fair, there's a lot more talent here than they had at any one time. The point is if they'd have used it properly more of the talent would have stayed because they could have been getting paid. Instead you had Tully Blanchard against some retired NFL player wearing a football helmet, I still never heard of the player before he "wrestled". This is after Tully got clean, by the way.
Main Event Level Heels: Larry Zbyszko, Colonel DeBeers (should have dropped the apartheid and teamed him with Slaughter as heel military men), Ken Patera (should have dyed the hair blonde again, cut it short and regrown the beard, the fans just didn't recognize him as a contender, was crazy over before), Kokina Maximus (Yokazuna), Sergeant Slaughter (not as a traitor, just as a demented drill sergeant as he was in the early 80s), John Nord (he was booked as a face lumberjack instead of the Berserker type), Tully Blanchard, Larry Cameron (could have been a Bad News Allan type), Michael Hayes, Terry Funk (had a great run with Flair not long after this).
Midcard Heels: Texas Hangman I and II, Scott Norton (he was booked as a no personality muscleman face), Mike Enos, Wayne Bloom (later became the Beverly Brothers), Nikolai Volkoff, Russian Brute, Soldat Ustinov, Wahoo McDaniel (could have used a grumpy old man, no respect for rookies to put somebody over), Mr Saito (one of the last world champs, just quickened the end), Kevin Kelly (Nailz), Nick Kiniski, Bob Orton Jr, Teijo Khan, Iron Sheik, Jimmy Jack Funk (Jesse Barr).
Jobber Heels: The Executioner, Akio Sato, Terminator Wolf, Terminator Riggs, Jonny Stewart, Frankie DeFalco, Dennis Stamp (from Beyond the Mat).
Main Event Level Faces: Derrick Dukes, Nikita Koloff, Tom Zenk, Manny Fernandez, Jerry Lynn, Paul Diamond, Del Wilkes (Patriot, was booked as a face "Trooper" who gave traffic tickets to wrestlers he beat, that would have been a better heel gimmick), Pat Tanaka, Don Muraco.
Midcard Faces; Chavo Guerrero, Hector Guerrero, Mando Guerrero, Tommy Jammer, DJ Peterson, Brad Rheingans, David Sammartino, Ricky Rice, Bobby Fulton, Tommy Rogers, Junkyard Dog, Ricky Morton, Robert Gibson, Rocky Mountain Thunder (typical giant wrestler), Jay Strongbow Jr
Jobber Faces: Rockin Randy, TC Carter, Steve O, Alan West, Buck Zumhofe, Jake Milliman, John Paul, Jim Evans, Pete Sanchez
There were a ton more jobbers, heel and face, some even I don't remember.
Released/put backstage or sticking to managing or announcing: Baron Von Rasche, Sheik Adnan Al Kaissie, Johnny Valiant, Mike George, Greg Gagne, Ray Stevens, Nick Bockwinkel, Bruiser, Billy Robinson. All of those guys and others were competing, some regularly.
The main event faces could use some bigger names, but I think more of the midcarders would have gotten over fighting the likes of Blanchard, Slaughter, Funk and Kokina. I liked Manny Fernandez as a face, before he turned against Jimmy Valiant in the NWA a long, long time ago. The tag team scene would have been lots of fun. All of this is just speculation but just think how giving the title to Hogan in 1983 would have changed things, followed by having the Road Warriors and the ESPN contract.
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Everybody masturbating in front of their computer screens thinking about RVD having classic matches with the TNA roster should put their penis away for a few months. Who is to say that RVD will not take the summer off and then start a bidding war between TNA and WWE before eventually resigning with Vince?Why put it that way when "everyone should wait and see what happens" would have fit? As for the topic, both sides were at fault. For whatever reason, he wasn't what they wanted at the top. Vince isn't in this to lose money, as dumb as the decisions and product seems a lot of times.
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Does Harley Race have anything to do with any of these groups?
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Only one of you guys did a show this week? For SHAME.I tried, I just couldn't get anything going off of somebody else's ideas. Doubtful I could work in a creative team.
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Hey, lay off the guy. I am sure he knows what he is talking about if you just leave him alone. He just wanted to introduce himself, and people started jumping all over him.Thanks for that...and yeah I probably introduced myself the wrong way.
BTW, love the Drury name (if that's buffalo related anyway)
There's nothing wrong with not being a smart ass on a message board. I didn't see anything wrong with your introduction.
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I think underused or in some cases, misused would be better terms, but I think he makes some good points. I still think Cryme Time and the highlanders could be decent heel teams, even if they'd be compared to the Gangstas and Sheepherders, so what. Wait, I forgot, they're teams not singles. Raw is getting unwatchable to me, I didn't even turn it on tonight and I nearly always tape Smackdown and watch it later so I still enjoy wrestling. Just not Raw.
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ROH booker unless I've got him confused with somebody else.
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Why New Jack?
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Rep. Tom Feeney, R-Florida, said it is unfair to single out specific groups for protection under the law.
"What it does is to say that the dignity, the property, the life of one person gets more protection than another American. That's just wrong," he said.
Everyone should read that part again.
Both sides cited the case of Matthew Shepard of Wyoming, whose brutal 1998 murder was linked to his sexual orientation.
"Matthew's death generated international outrage by exposing the violent nature of hate crimes," said Rep. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wisconsin, the only openly lesbian member of the House of Representatives.
But Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, argued that Shepard's killers got harsh sentences without hate-crimes provisions.
"Those perpetrators that did that horrible act -- both got life sentences under regular murder laws," he said.
And that. They actually should have gotten worse. Prosecute to the full extent of the law regardless of the victim, and you'll have less to worry about when it comes to such offenses.
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It sounds like a good kids movie, or to put it another way, a good movie kids could watch. There's not enough of them out there, mostly just computer animated fluff with celebrity voices and pop culture references to try and make adults happy.