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I've been anti-Laker ever since Kobe elbowed Bibby in game 6 of the conference finals two years ago and Bibby got charged for the foul because he didn't move his face out of the way in time. You could argue that Kobe's elbow two years ago was worse than what Malone did on Sunday, so you all should have known nothing was going to happen. Either way, this sets a double standard, and even if you're indifferent to the NBA and kind of casually follow the playoffs, you have to be thinking to yourself "How the hell can that happen" right now.

Trust me, it would be at least a month or two before I got the barebones of it up, but I think I could have at least some sort of prototype up by around July 1 if I got started on it right away. I've got the next two days off work, so I'll start by using what info's already on my hard drive and go from there.

If i read the updated preview correctly, it looks like Edge vs. Ric Flair and Eugene/William Regal vs. Garrison Cade/Jonathan Coachman tonight.

Just a thought that may or may not get shut down. While we have said that we'd like to see this site follow the NWA and WCW, it becomes confusing with the JCP to Turner switchover, especially once we hit late-1990 and early-1991 when Flair's both NWA and WCW champion but never acknowledged by WCW as such. Would it be better to keep the WCW history focused on the timeframe between Turner purchasing JCP in November 1988 through the sale to Vince McMahon in 2001 (and through that year's Survivor Series) and starting a separate NWA site (which I would consider working on, possibly with help). That NWA site could focus on all the territories lumped under the NWA banner as well as the NWA after 1993 (which tends to get ignored).

Ugh. He wrestled on Heat last night and threw two of the worse dropkicks I've seen since The Renegade at Bash at the Beach 95.

Nothing like protecting the business, huh?

Heenan: That little runt...I mean... Monsoon: You just called Jimmy Hart a runt. Heenan: No I didn't, I was clearing my throat. "HA-RUNT!" That's all.

Tunney had also been made to look like a complete dumbass beginning the Andre-Hogan title change in 1988. How can the referee's decision be final when the assigned referee didn't actually work the match? Other notable decisions: 1. Allowing The Brain Busters to win the tag teams titles on a 2nd fall DQ when the British Bulldogs didn't get them in a similar situation two years prior. 2. Reinstating Danny Davis from his "lifetime" suspension. 3. The mark mags gave him hell for disallowing The Rockers' tag team title victory. All of these decisions played some part in the fans' views of Tunney.

Steamboat's loss to HTM was at a TV taping and aired on Superstars 6/13/87

No, maybe but not likely, and no.

There are two I can think of, both from the same house show I attended. The first one was during an FBI match. The "Where's my pizza" chant started, and a small group of people started chanting "Sal E. ate it" in between. Turns out a few in the crowd also made the TV taping that week, so it caught on once or twice on TV. The other one was during the Lance Storm-Super Crazy match. Fans started chanting "USA", and Storm got on the microphone going "Who the hell are you rooting for? I'm from Calgary.......Alberta, Canada, and he's from Mexico." I looked at the group behind me and said "Let's start chanting 'Mexico'," leading to a loud "Mexico" chant. I also loved the ten punch count along in Spanish during Super Crazy matches.

Didn't you pick HHH to win at WM XX? Just gonna keep picking it over and over until it FINALLY happens --- and then say "See, I was right"? -=Mike Unless they want to make this title a total joke, HHH can't be the next holder under any circumstances. Kill this "Yo-Yo" vibe. Yet nobody seems to mind that, oh, Ric Flair did the EXACT same thing for, well, 10 years straight. -=Mike That might have something to do with Flair being able to carry anybody well enough to make them look credible. He had good matches with Ronnie fucking Garvin, of all people. While Triple H has finally been putting on some good matches with people not named Shawn Michaels the last 3 or 4 months, he'd basically been World Champion for 14 out of 18 months without anything resembling a classic match...or while doing something resembling drawing money. To compare: Ric Flair: Good matches with damn near everybody (this guy made longtime enhancement talent look like they might be able to pull off the upset). Drew a ton of money for Jim Crockett Promotions when Hulk Hogan got all the mainstream publicity. And people paid to see him on the basis that he might lose the title. Triple H: Prior to the first match with Shelton Benjamin, can you name one match in the last two years that topped *** and didn't have Shawn Michaels in it? I can't. Arguably a huge draw in 2000, but feuded with The Rock and Mick Foley in that stretch, so you could argue the opponents were the draws. Add in the fact that while most people pay to see a title program because the champion might lose, even casual fans avoided ordering Raw PPVs because they didn't think Triple H could lose.

At Survivor Series Showdown 89, Gorilla and Heenan are discussing Rick Martel's heel turn, and of course Heenan is praising it. Monsoon: I suppose you think Benedict Arnold was a standup guy. Heenan: He did what he had to do, I think.

Cawthon's right about "the more detail the better". Do you realize how many times Ricky Steamboat and Steve Austin wrestled each other on TV alone between 1992 and 1994? If I'm trying to figure out a date for a match I have on tape between them and I see 25 results that simply say "Ricky Steamboat defeated Steve Austin" with nothing else to it, I'd go absolutely insane. Just my two cents.

I'm not reading through four pages to see if these have been mentioned or not, but MillenniumMan has to have hit them by now, I'd think. Cleveland Cavaliers: "The Shot". Michael Jordan hits a last second shot over Craig Ehlo to give the Bulls a series victory. Cleveland Browns: "The Drive" and "The Fumble". 'nuff said. Cleveland Indians: Game 7 of the 1997 World Series. Fuck Jose Mesa and his not being able to handle the pressure in the bottom of the 9th.

I can't remember what show it's from, but I want to say Royal Rumble 88. Ventura: Every athlete sweats, McMahon. If you were ever an athlete, you would know that. You mean that in...what's that sport with the balls and mallets? Croquet! You mean you sweat in croquet? McMahon: Not so much in croquet, although in badminton you do work up quite a sweat. Ventura [sounding surprised McMahon actually played along]: Badminton.

If Anglesault thinks The Basham Brothers are the worse tag team he ever saw, then he didn't watch the AWA's tag team division in their dying days. Try watching John Nord and Scott Norton as lumberjacks in 12 minute matches every week and tell me the Bashams suck. I dare you.

I also enjoyed the show tonight. Red-Dutt was quite good and almost worth the ten bucks by itself. Lynn-Rude was also quite good, although I thought D'Amore got too much offense in during the extra five minutes. I mean, yes, he should have gotten some offense early since Lynn had just wrestled an 8-10 minute match, but damn, it was like Lynn got two moves in before the mass run-in from Team Canada. I like the concept of the main event, and get rid of Jarrett's interference (which was blatantly foreshadowed when Russo went through the list of name) and that was quite good as well. Outside of Young-D Ray, which was about twice as long as it should have been, it was quite a good show.

I don't remember Jake being at the bachelor party at all (although he may have as I haven't seen it years), but I believe the bachelor party aired before the final Warrior-Roberts segment that cemented Roberts' turn.

I don't remember any fanfare for Warrior at all. I remember seeing him work a house show when he was still The Dingo Warrior a full month before he debuted on TV (and I need to try to find the program so I send cawthon the results of that show, as he doesn't have it on his site yet).

Roberts and The Undertaker crashed the Savage/Elizabeth wedding reception.

Does anybody know if the Deadly Draw is over with the first pin or if it's elimination? I mean, if Harris draws #1 and is pinned in 3:45, is that it? Or do we wait for #2 to enter?

Vince McMahon/Pat Patterson -- Championship Wrestling and All-Star Wrestling Dick Graham/Kal Rudman -- Philadelphia Spectrum Didn't Jack Reynolds and Angelo Mosca work All-Star Wrestling together when they first started taping in Canada?

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The "ladder match" with Shane, while good, is highly overrated in my eyes, as people forget that it technically wasn't a ladder match, just a match where they used a ladder. The match with AmDrag I'll agree with you on. Awesome match. But Paul London's worst stuff in ROH > almost everything at Judgment Day. Seriously.