The Truthiness

I don't think TNA has ever had a more over tag team than AMW.

Great ending, missed the rest of the show. Looks like Cade is getting a big push, that's cool.

Was that fucking neccesary? I just said, I don't want to get in a argument about Joe and wanted to talk about something we all agree was a positive which was the Roode/Storm vs LAX angle.

Vickie Guerrero Trips vs. Cena Ted Dibiase Jr. Kingston vs. Benjamin. Miz/Morrison...The best tag team in the world and I've watched almost all of the other "best" from different companies, but none entertain me more than "The In Crowd". Batista/Jericho/Michaels feud IS the best angle in wrestling. It's kind of shocking that Batista might be in 2 straight feuds of the year. The Divas Championship. MVP finally getting a big storyline after dropping the title to Matt. Big Show going after the ECW title. Henry and Big Show storyline, Mark is awesome and I'm glad he's getting a push again...Thanks Hayes. I for some reason like the team of Punk/Kane, not sure why. The Finlay/Palumbo short feud. WWE is awesome, not good as last year, but still awesome.

I really don't want to get in to a Joe argument this week, I've said what I've had to say about the guy, my mind isn't changing on him anytime soon and I'm tired of talking about the million things wrong with TNA. Can we talk about how awesome Roode and Storm were?

Really? Compared to any other indy belt in the country, sure. What other American, non-WWE/TNA belt is considered more presitigious? I think he's saying the ROH title is more prestigious than the WWE and WWE's World title, I don't agree with that. As far as TNA's championship... Who cares? I think he believes "The Big Two" don't treat their titles with enough prestige.

He can still prove it in the ring and not get punked out by every challenger.

See this is what I don't get, Booker comes out and calls Joe a "paper champion", "punk ass", and all this other shit. When Joe goes to say something, Booker tells him to shut up, and of course Joe shuts up. Booker goes on to punk him out and leaves, while Joe sits there and says nothing. Later, he goes in to Book's locker room (The one that smells like piss) offers him a title shot and shakes his hand. Book accepts, Tells Joe "He didn't think he'd have it in him to accept the challenge, he doesn't like him, but he does now respect him". Than he goes on to tell Joe, that in Houston he's going to be the favorite and the crowd is going to be behind him. Joe gives him the key to his private locker room and agrees that that the one he in does smell like piss. What the fuck? The rest of the show has been strong, I wished another ref or Cornette would've been the one to reverse the decision in the LAX vs. Roode/Storm match. The ref just taking Hector's word for it didn't make sense. But the post match shenanigans was good, as was the interview with Roode/Storm afterwards.

Really?

Not trying to buddy, it caught me off guard also. lol VIC VIPER

Gabe deleted the thread at the ROH boards.

It might not be recognized. Credit: F4W online

Credit: Observer

I liked the Punk/MVP match but the show sucked for the most part, Foley putting himself over is getting old.

Note the difference. I bolded it for you, even. Jingus said it was "nonsensical" that a network airing programming where women are attacked, raped, beaten and murdered will not let a male interviewer half-assedly slap some goliath amazon twice his size who's clearly capable of killing him merely because said goliath is female. Truthiness then twisted it into some equally nonsensical crusade where he split his time equally between implying Jingus is a misogynist who beats women and implying that women are inferior to men and should never compete against them in anything. I never once implied Jingus beats women. I never once implied that women shouldn't compete against men in anything, I thought it was stupid that Michelle Wei couldn't compete against the men in Golf, and I also don't mind Danica Patrick racing men. Men competing with women is fine, men fighting women is bad. This isn't hard to understand. But "nice try" Oldskool.

Jingus somehow took the Roode/Storm vs LAX post match angle, and used as a stance against Spike TV's "No man on woman violence" policy. He thought the rule was "nonsensical", which would mean he doesn't think it makes sense to have a rule that a man SHOULDN'T hit a woman. He than went on to say Spike isn't letting the women be portrayed as "competitors and fighters", which is not true if anything Spike has been fans of the Knock Outs for a while and even wanted them to have their own show (iirc). So when that defense didn't work he started comparing wrestling to The Shield, CSI, Star Trek, And Bond movies and than he got lost. Jingus basically wants wrestling to be treated as a sport, but he also wants it to be treated like everything else on TV, which is cool. The thing is you don't have to have men beating on women, to have a wrestling show like that.

Man, it isn't that serious.

1st off Swigg, I doubt you or Jingus could kick my ass. Secondly, all I'm was saying is men shouldn't be beating on women. What is the problem?

lol. Nah man, I'm not a sexist just don't like women wrestling much. I've come to accept some of it, but I could take it or leave it.

Nothing you said has been fact, Jingus. .

Man you wrote all that and your still wrong, Jingus. A man beating up a woman in a cop show, is in no way like a man beating up a woman in fake sport. the stunts aren't the same and the intent behind the beatings aren't the same. A cop show is set in real life situations, where a man beating a woman could indeed happen. In wrestling it should never come to that, seeing as men and woman have their own divisions and the whole fucking thing is supposed to be a sport. Like I said it's apples and oranges, a man killing a girl on The Shield, isn't anything like a steroid induced pyscho slamming a woman around just to prove, who's the better fake fighter. It is nothing at all alike and it is just silly to even make a comparison between them and you know it. Plus, you really don't have big enough resume to pull the "you never been in the ring" card. Not true I watch women college hoops, The WNBA, and I like watching the Williams play tennis. But no, I don't want to see women slicing themselves up with blades and getting beat up by men. Me not being a fan of women wrestling has nothing to do with me appreciating athletic women...Try again.

My god...Wow. No it's not silly, the beatings are real, there is no disputing that. In fights on tv shows, they have a lot of takes and can add shit in, not in wrestling you can not compare the two. Come on, I know you're smarter than this. It seems like your arguing just to save face now, because that whole post is kind of silly. That is basically what you said. A man beating a woman is stupid and shouldn't be codoned, especially in something like wrestling. Just because wrestling storylines are fake, doesn't mean the violence is also. It's dumb to compare wrestling to shows like The Shield, Star Trek, or CSI. This is a good decision by Spike TV point blank, that shouldn't even be up for discussion, men beating on women is bad, period. I don't understand why anyone would think different, but hey, like I said I guess I just like women too much.

Yeah actually I do. When I spent time in Cali, that is actually what one of the stunt doubles told me. He actually said he only had 2 jobs that year and was able to buy a house and a hummer. He spenty the rest on weed and clubbing. This came from a actual stuntman's mouth, so I'm sure it's more stories like that from different stunt doubles. Just like I'm sure they get hurt a lot, I'm willing to bet that none of them would trade spots with a wrestler, and fuck up their bodies a few times a week. Yeah, I've seen The Rock say things like that, I'm sure the pain might "hurt a hell of a lot more than people realise". But I'm willing to bet it doesn't hurt more than taking bumps everynight. I don't even think the studio would ask you do half of the things you have to do to work a match. Yeah. So the beatings in wrestling aren't real? Good to know. From one of your very 1st post, you have been calling these women competitors and fighters; Spike TV has let them be portrayed as both. Spike even wanted to give them their own show one time. The women have put on what most people call great matches, they are the cornerstone of the company. It is the only thing that people point to that TNA has done better than WWE. The champ is the most legit champion in the company, and is the best character in the company. The ratings are steady or go up when the Knock Outs are on TV, they have put together the perfect combination of sex appeal and legit athleticism, to make a division that appeals to a plethora of different viewers. They have done this with simple and rational booking, and this is the primarily the most prosperous thing the company has done in years, everything is going excellent for the girls nearly all of them are over. Your response to that is to start letting the men kick their ass. What the fuck?

Because wrestling is different than other programming. It shouldn't even exist, let alone letting men beat up on women. 1;I'm sure it's not happening every week and I'm also sure the studios take care of the women. Being a stunt double a few times a year, it's nothing like being a stunt woman most of the year. I'm sure that men are not beating the shit out of women for real on the Shield and Bond movies. 2: People go in to movies and watch tv shows knowing it's fake and it's not really happening. In wrestling the beatings are real, nobody wants to see a woman get the shit beat out of her by a man for real. I know I don't, I guess I just like women too much. 3; That isn't a fair comparison, wrestling is nothing like Star Trek or CSI. A more accurate comparison would be comparing women boxers vs men boxers, or women MMA fighters vs men MMA fighters. You can't make that comparison, because the people that govern boxing and MMA, are not dumb enough to pair the men and the women. The people watching MMA and Boxing are more likely to be watching wrestling, than people watching CSI or Star Trek. CSI is about criminals based in a real life situation, being caught by a forensic specialist. Star Trek is about some people fighting things from other planets. Wrestling is a fake sport, where people get beat up for real. A man should never be beating up on a woman for real, especially in something that is potrayed as a sport. I can't believe that a company is getting called out because they don't want men beating up women in a fake sport.

They should do as a a few comedy segments and nothing more. Eventually they should break them up and have them feud, but they can get atleast a good year and a half out of a team like that, before they even think about breaking them up. Hell a feud with LAX done properly should go about 6 months itself.