Guest Razor Roman Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 On a side note, when Flair was talking to Jeff Hardy in the back and you saw "some guy" sitting in the background, am I the only one who, if only for a moment, thought it was Russo? Stephen Richards was sitting how Russo does, and even moved liked him when he started to get up. I thought they were about to unleash a Flair/Russo program on us all once again! No, I soiled myself, too.
Guest jimmy no nose Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 You can joke all you want, but we all know that they're going to fire Gerwitz and make the new Raw booker Kevin Nash. It's so obvious.
Guest mach7 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Have you guys ever seen Gertwertz? The guy looks like a stoner who still lives in his parents basement. Think "Brody" from Mallrats.
Guest genius1591 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 NASH WASN'T READY TO WRESTLE?! Damn... Has he been ready to wrestle AT ANY TIME since he signed a WWE contract? LOL!
Guest Kid Kablam Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Have you guys ever seen Gertwertz? The guy looks like a stoner who still lives in his parents basement. Think "Brody" from Mallrats. and your point would be......?
Guest Incandenza Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Yeah, it's not right to spring that kind of news on someone who's been inactive for three months due to injury, but that could've easily happened at that house show on Friday. It was a freak occurence and no single person is responsible for it.
Guest Nezbyte Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 You can joke all you want, but we all know that they're going to fire Gerwitz and make the new Raw booker Kevin Nash. It's so obvious. I wouldnt mind seeing that - but, i KNOW im in the minority.
Guest Midnight Express83 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Don't wrestlers have to be at the arena 5 to 7 hours before the show starts? So wouldn't that mean he had 7 to 9 hours to warm up. If you are telling me someone can't get loose in 9 hours, you are a fucking idiot. Nash "Trips" and is out for 8 months or his career is over. Its called Karma. It is nobody's fault. Nash fell. As for a scape goat, there is no scape goat needed. Since its nobody's fault. Like who do you blame for HHH tearing the shit out of his quad. Nobody, why, because it was just a freak occurence. Now, Nash's career is just about over. Lets all do the right thing now. ::points at Nash:: HA-ha.
Guest mach7 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Have you guys ever seen Gertwertz? The guy looks like a stoner who still lives in his parents basement. Think "Brody" from Mallrats. and your point would be......? No point. It's called an observation.
Guest Mattdotcom Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Richards looked just like Jason Lee in his promo last night. I'd like to see a "Brodie Bruce Booked" RAW...maybe I'll write it... Oh, and you can tear your quad by tripping, provided you land wrong when you trip JUST LIKE NASH AND HUNTER!
Guest Choken One Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Exactly, I tore my Quad just swinging a bat and stepping off wrong. I was able to go halfway to the base but I just collasped and my career was done.
Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 If, as it seems, it is a quad injury and not a knee injury, does that mean Gerwitz cannot be blamed as it was a freak injury that could have happened anytime, rather than a nagging injury or one that could be caused by being unprepared for an in-ring return?
Guest djsunyc Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 btw, i don't think gerwertz has the power to put people in matches and so forth. he writes the vignettes and probably proposes angles but it ultimately comes down to vince and steph. it must be tough having people constantly suggesting things to you, like taker, nash, hbk, angle, etc. and then having to propose them to your boss (vince and steph) and have them decide on what stays and goes. gerwertz is in a tough spot. russo should shelter all the blame for wcw b/c he pretty much put out what he wanted to, but gerwertz can't do that, it's vince's call. and when vince listens to guys more than others, like nash and hhh (which is such a conflict of interest), then the product that's put out will have their skew on it. some like it but most hate it and when you're the only game in town, you have to learn to love it or else you'll be on the unemployment line. that's why guys like jericho, benoit, booker, the young hungry guys that are the future have to just sit and wait until all the other guys just leave or vince wakes the hell up. this is their job and they need the money. we have the right to our opinions in what we like or don't, but we don't know the whole story and never will. this is a great forum to voice our opinions but in the grand scheme of things, we have to just accept what's out there or leave.
Guest HartFan86 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 He should have notified Nash before that he was wrestling, but the guy didn't exactly fall on a wrestling move. He could have done the same walking down the street. Exactly.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 it must be tough having people constantly suggesting things to you, like taker, nash, hbk, angle, etc. and then having to propose them to your boss Yeah. I mean, these people even have to gall to ask you to put down that copy of X-Men while they talk to you!
Guest RetroRob215 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Gerwitz isn't to blame. How much time does a wrestler really need to prepare for a 10 man tag? Each guy is in there for about a minute and a half and then they have a big brawl. Doesn't really require much preparation. If Nash couldn't work a combined 2 minutes in the ring without 3 days noticed he shouldn't be in the business.
Guest claydude14 Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 Let Robert "Mex Hammer" McCoumick book RAW omg, i went to that site. hillarious.
Guest LesnarLunatic Posted July 9, 2002 Report Posted July 9, 2002 finally! me and Claydude agree on something. Let Mex Hammer book RAW!
Guest claydude14 Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 dont stop at RAW, i want to see the lance storm pro-america but fans pro canada angle on smackdown!
Guest Ravenbomb Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 is it just me, or does Kev kinda look like Jonathan Frakes?
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 is it just me, or does Kev kinda look like Jonathan Frakes? I've seen both, and when push comes to shove and shampoo comes to conditioner, nobody can match Kev's hair care. That's why you can see the gleam from the nosebleeds. Nobody comes close. Then again, nobody comes close to Frakes' pose-and-speak-a-line method of acting either, so I guess it's a draw.
Guest Ravenbomb Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 actually, I meant like around the eyes or something, but you make a good point... ...Jonathan Frakes...
Guest Smeghead Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 I mentioned Nash's injury to my sister, who has sports medicine experience. She said that she has seen this kind of thing happen to high school football players several times. First, they pick up a minor injury. They're put on the injured list. While they're on the list, they sit on their asses and wait for the injury to heal, not bothering to work out the parts of their bodies that aren't injured. Then when they've healed up, they return to the game and give it 100%, and they almost immediately hurt themselves again because they didn't keep up with their conditioning while they were injured, and the body wasn't strong enough to go right back into football mode. Now let's look at this story of the high school football player, but apply it to Kevin Nash. [speculation]Nash tears his bicep. He sits out for a few months. While he rehabs his arm, he doesn't bother to work out other parts of his body that are not injured, i.e., his quad. He's medically cleared to return to work. In his first match back, he gives it everything he's got. While that is commendable, his quad has deteriorated from a lack of conditioning over the last three months, and it can't take all the running, kicking, and big boots as well as it was able to before the bicep injury. Fifteen seconds after Nash tags in, the weak quad tears.[/speculation] Gerwitz is not solely to blame. Everyone on the writing team, including Gerwitz, fucked up when they started booking on the fly. And last night it bit them in the ass. However, knowing Kevin Nash's reputation for being lazy, I think my sister hit the nail on the head. That explanation makes perfect sense. The majority of the blame must go to Big Lazy. I feel bad for the guy. I really do. But Gerwitz shouldn't be punished for this. Nash screwed Nash.
Guest jimmy no nose Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 That last post makes a whole lot of sense. I was thinking that may be the case.
Guest TheDames7 Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 Have you guys ever seen Gertwertz? The guy looks like a stoner who still lives in his parents basement. Think "Brody" from Mallrats. I've met the guy a few times, nice guy. I don't think he looks like a stoner, if anything, he just looks like an unruly fan. Dames
Guest justcoz Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 Smeghead just got across the point I was trying to make. I can't blame Gerwitz completely for Nash's injury. Nash's age and laziness more than likely did him in. He went in there full force, stepped over the rope, quick exchange, big boot to the face, run to the corner and DOWN HE GOES!!!! I didn't see him trip. Nash should have been in better condition before his big television return to action. The booking on the fly crap contributed to this though. Nash should have been wrestling off camera for a few weeks to get his conditioning and timing back. Would the quad injury have still happened? More than likely yes. At least it wouldn't have happened during a hyped television return in the main event of Raw. My point here is that WWE should have more respect to their talent and the product they present to fans then to throw unprepared guys out there. Maybe Jackie Gayda and Kevin Nash needed to be working house shows or OVW over the weekend, watching from the back at Raw while the guys that are ready to go like Raven, D Lo and Sean O'Haire get on television?
Guest candie45 Posted July 10, 2002 Report Posted July 10, 2002 Smegehead, what you said would make a lot of sense, if Nash injured himself while actually doing something. I don't work out my quad and I manage to successfully walk around each and every day.
Guest Smeghead Posted July 11, 2002 Report Posted July 11, 2002 Walking around is one thing. Wrestling is another. Nash didn't do a lot in that match before he tore his quad. I'll give you that. But he seemed to be putting in more effort than he normally does. Sure, he only hit one move. But that's 20% of his repertoire. Think of it this way. You said you can walk around every day and not tear your quad. What if, for some reason, you stopped walking for a few months? What if you didn't use your legs at all during that time? Then, all of a sudden, you tried to stand up and walk again like you used to on a daily basis. Your chances of hurting your legs would be much higher, because they wouldn't be used to moving around and carrying your upper body weight. Does that make more sense? And by the way, I'm not trying to suggest that a lack of conditioning is the only factor that contributed to his injury. I don't know for sure if it was a factor at all. I didn't follow Nash around with a video camera while he was injured, watching and taping his every move (and if I did, I'd be arrested pretty quick). It's just an explanation for what could have contributed to his injury. I'm sure there are other factors that played a part in his quad tear, i.e., his many years of wrestling, his age, and previous injuries.
Guest candie45 Posted July 11, 2002 Report Posted July 11, 2002 "Think of it this way. You said you can walk around every day and not tear your quad. What if, for some reason, you stopped walking for a few months? What if you didn't use your legs at all during that time? Then, all of a sudden, you tried to stand up and walk again like you used to on a daily basis. Your chances of hurting your legs would be much higher, because they wouldn't be used to moving around and carrying your upper body weight. Does that make more sense?" -Smeghead I understand what you are saying. But that would mean that Nash sat on his lazy ass the whole time he was injured without getting up and using his legs...... Okay, you win.
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