Guest GenerationNever Report post Posted July 13, 2002 Well, what would do to a female who molests a little boy? You can't castrate a woman...Anyways, I agree, we need to do away with brain washing religions like Catholisism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted July 13, 2002 Rapists are IMO as bad (if not worse, well really not worse, but as bad) as any of the 9/11 terrorists or bin ladin himself. I think that while I may say that Bin Ladin deserves an easy death, thats because I can't see the situation ending any other way besides that or a messy death. But rapists consistantly get off and get among the population again and again. They don't deserve any protection. Anyone who would do that to some innocent person, to ruin their concepts of themselves and others and sexuality is just a very bad person. VERY. In terms of Female rape I suppose like male rape it would depend on the crime. Statuatory rape is not the same thing really... I don't know what you'd call regular rape, but from what I've heard most women who molest boys do things differently than men. I know its a stupid double standard, but they often see the boy as a mature person, someone they want to have a mature relationship with, so they take them home and have dinner with them and then have sex I guess. But if we're talking about a 16 year old allowed to have sex with a 30 year old, it's a different thing than a 16 year old forced to have sex with a 30 year old. If they forced the guy to do it then I dunno don't castrate them and give them backbreaking labor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KoR Fungus Report post Posted July 13, 2002 Better to take someone's concepts of themselves and others and sexuality away than to take someone's life away. Not that rape should be justified, but it's much less permanent a crime than murder. It's hard for me to see how raping one person is anywhere near as bad as murdering 3000. Anyway, you're either against cruel punishment or you're not. I am against cruel punishment and don't think it's appropriate for any crime. I don't think it has a place in any "civilized" society. Keeping people away from society for the rest of their lives is fine, and necessary for the safety of others, but torturing people serves no purpose and just allows us to get off on other's misery, which is barbaric and disgusting, imo. Plus, many of the arguments against the death penalty could also be made against castration. "Because wouldn't that suck, killing an innocent?". Yes. And castrating an innocent would suck too. Torture is irreversable, and therefore has no place in a justice system as imperfect as the one that we have in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted July 13, 2002 Not that rape should be justified, but it's much less permanent a crime than murder. Actually, I know not one but two rape victims who have both said to me that they wish their attackers had just killed them instead. The crime can truly be THAT permanently and severely traumatic to the victims. A rape trial is a difficult thing indeed. The problem is that, in a great many of cases, there's not much evidence besides the woman's word that the man did indeed commit the crime. It's bad enough that there are a significant number of rapists who do walk free, either because of lack of evidence, or that the poor victim was simply afraid to try & bring it to trial. The prison sentences for rape convictions are often somewhat lax, and the offender is often back on the street within a very few years. It also doesn't help that, in the eyes of the law, consensual sex between a 17-year-old and an adult is seen as the exact same crime as real rape. This brings to mind another argument of mine: there is a bizarre double standard in persons accused of crimes. That is, oftentimes the social stigma of being arrested for a crime is often actually worse than the prison sentence. Or, to put it like this: you've got two rape defendents. One is a innocent man, falsely accused, who has a family and is an upstanding member of the community. The other is a brutal repeat serial rapist who just happened to get caught for the first time. The innocent man will likely be shunned and discriminated against for the rest of his life, and could even lose his family over it. But what the hell does the serial criminal care? They're often way beyond past the point of caring about what other people think of them anyway. The innocent man's life could be destroyed, while the real rapist just takes a fairly light sentence and walks back into society in a couple of years, ready to do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted July 13, 2002 "Life in prison is cheaper anyway..." Actually, it's more expensive to execute someone. I was very surprised when I stumbled onto the numbers. I agree with the death penalty in principle, but I don't like the fact that it's possible to kill an innocent person. Also, there seem to be certain inequities in the justice system, and especially the prisoners on death row, and unless the system is fair and just, we shouldn't be using it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted July 14, 2002 I did a report in the 10th grade regarding speech giving. I decided I would do a pro-capital punishment piece. I did some research. Hmmm... I did some more research. Hmmm... I subsiquently changed my entire platform. Death penalty cases cost the taxpayer more than life sentances period. No I don't still have the speech on my computer. Nor do I care enough to find the numbers. But nonetheless it's true. So I say put people in jail forever. That way if they are innocent they can be released and if they're guilty, they won't hurt anyone ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest benoitrules2000 Report post Posted July 20, 2002 In theory that would work but practically it's impossible as jails are becoming increasingly crowded and thus lead to such problematic things as early paroles and the like hence leading to more crime. Which leads to such support for the death penalty but that's a human creation which can only lead to human mistakes as accidentally killing an innocent person which is simply unforgivable an not worth such a risk. If you want to look at serial killers look at government statistics of innocent deaths over the years. The vicious cycle continues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted July 20, 2002 I did a report in the 10th grade regarding speech giving. I decided I would do a pro-capital punishment piece. I did some research. Hmmm... I did some more research. Hmmm... I subsiquently changed my entire platform. Death penalty cases cost the taxpayer more than life sentances period. No I don't still have the speech on my computer. Nor do I care enough to find the numbers. But nonetheless it's true. So I say put people in jail forever. That way if they are innocent they can be released and if they're guilty, they won't hurt anyone ever again. I say do what George Carlin suggests here: Prisons: Did you know that it costs $40,000 a year to house each prisoner? Jeez, for $40,000 apiece I'll take a few prisoners into my house. I live in Los Angeles--I already have bars on the windows. I don't think we should give free room and board to criminals. I think they should have to run 12 hours a day on a treadmill and generate electricity. And if they don't want to run, they can rest in the chair that's hooked up to the generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mr. Slim Citrus Report post Posted July 20, 2002 I prefer Chris Rock's proposed solution; after all, stabbing don't cost a damn thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
