The "One & Only Eric Bischoff" Thread

[Guest Nezbyte]

Great, awesome. I love this guy, though he's a little chubby shit now.

[Guest Anglesault]

Well, both Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff are working for Vince McMahon. I guess this marks the real "end" of the Big Three wars. (Not so much ECW, but it helps my point, so shut up)

[Guest franchise632]

Im hearing that it could actually be Stephaine for SD, Foley was also thought to be in the running but not sure if he wants to get back on a full schedule.

 

Credit to Wrestlingobserver and Dave Meltzer

[Guest GenerationNever]

Stephanie+HHH+Smackdown!=AHHH!

 

Well, anyways, LOOK AT US. We're actually excited about the the WWE. Damn, we're sounding like young marks again! I LOVE IT!

[Guest M Nyland]

Yes...Vince made the smarks somewhat happy....

 

 

God Bless Us All

[Guest The Man in Blak]

I marked out for Bischoff's total random appearance during Booker's interview.

 

The hug between Bischoff and Vince McMahon was creepy and surreal, to say the least.

 

The interview, however, SUCKED.

 

If you slip Vince in his place, the IWC would have screamed (and rightfully so) that Vince was taking up worthless TV time putting himself over. Instead, he let Eric Bischoff fly the colors on the long-decayed flagpole of WCW. Sure, he made some burning quasi-shoot comments (because working the internet = RATINGZ~!), but the crowd fell asleep. And the purpose of the interview - to shunt the Triple H/nWo ultimatum over to Bischoff - was fairly poor too.

 

Other than that (and Bischoff's phallic obsession with Triple H), the return of Uncle Eric was handled well. But the fact of the matter is that it's one step forward, two steps back.

 

All the WWE needs is another "new guy in charge" angle going on - what, should we give it five weeks before the writers forget that Bischoff exists or run out of stuff to do with him? Or maybe stretch it out until SummerSlam?

 

Too little, FAR too late.

[Guest TheDames7]

As for me....I can't wait to see what happens between Jericho and Bischoff in the locker room tomorrow night.

 

Bischoff is an asshole, but an entertaining one. Although I sincerely doubt he has any stroke backstage, I would hope that he has the balls to tell Vince that he should let his cruisers just let their balls hang out and perform like they should.

 

Dames

[Guest jester]

Something else about that interview. His comment that he never had HHH in WCW. Well, according to SK:

 

"Which is funny, because he DID have HHH and he fired him in 1995"

 

I can't wait to see what Wrestlecrap has to say about him coming back.

 

jester

[Guest art_vandelay]

What would really please the IWC is if guys like Benoit, Jericho, HHH, Austin (if he were still around) all cut promos on Bischoff. It would add to his heel persona too. But something just tells me that none of it will ever be mentioned, and heels will align with him regardless of any real life feelings.

[Guest The Metal Maniac]

What I find funnier then the fact that Bisch had HHH in '95 is this:

 

Can you even CONSIDER the possibility that Bisch was watching HHH in '96 thinking "he could turn things around"?

 

He would have been watching an unover jobber to the stars, thinking this was the future of the company...

 

Forget that HBK guy...or that Bret dude...

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Of course, it's all about the Game.

 

Way to fuck up a promising angle.

You know, if Austin were around, it would have been him... For the 800th time.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

The fuck it would have.

 

If Austin hadn't left already, he probably would have left tonight.

[Guest Anglesault]

But you see, Austin would have you know, made SENSE.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Is it only a matter of time before we redo the WCW vs WWE crap from last year?

 

RAW has people that want to be on RAW with Eric (Big Show, etc..) and people that want to leave (Ric Flair,..etc..) Smackdown's GM will be either Stephanie or Shane (Shane makes so much more sense...), so Smackdown will obviously have people that want to stay and people that want to go.. So basically, Eric and Shane (or whoever) make the roster moves and the two shows are alligned Pro Eric and Pro Shane (or whoever) Vince goes away for a while and then the two GMS start fueding leading up to Eric getting mad and having RAW breaking away from the WWE and becoming WCW again. Maybe this will work better, maybe it will suck more than the Alliance angle did..

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I don't mean to piss on anyonre's parade, but I don't really see the big deal about Bischoff coming in now. If he would have come in last year, things would make more sense. Right now it, this is only exciting if you are looking at it from a behind the scenes perspective. I don't want to see a recreation of the Monday Night Wars or a recreation of anything else for that matter. They wanted Eric Bischoff, they accomplished that. Hurray. Aside from showing up on RAW and boring everyone to death with a promo, what else can they have him do now? He was the big cheese in WCW a few years ago, but that doesn't really matter right now. This just looks like another move made because people are starting to panic. They pulled the plug on the Invasion, Flair as an owner, the NWO, Russo and Hogan's title reign already. I wouldn't be surprised if this fails too. Money is being wasted by bringing in people who they have no real plans for and it has shown badly. I can't see what Bischoff can truly add to the storylines. He was WCW president? That's good but you must have forgetten how poorly WCW was portrayed during the Invasion, if you think people will care about that. The WWF fans don't know about or care about what Bischoff did in WCW back in 1997, that's why he had to tell the story during his promo.

 

If the WWF is really trying to create storylines that only Internet fans are going to truly understand, they are going to have a mess on their hands. This whole story seems to be heavy with shoot comments, which end up losing all of the regular fans. How many fans know about Triple H being let go by WCW? How many fans know he was in WCW? How many fans know about Bischoff's comments about Jericho? I hope they don't play that stuff up because it's not going to win viewers, and it will be a bunch of smoke and mirrors anyway because it's still going to be scripted. The ECW guys can make references to how Heyman screwed them out of money, but how many fans pick up on that? Instead of trying to do the worked shoots, why can't they just write good material? They need to stop trying to be cute with the Internet fans.

 

It seems like nobody on the "creative" staff is creative. They brought in Russo, and he brought up the idea to bring Bischoff in and have a mini invasion, which it looks like they are doing.It's frustrating being a wrestling fan. It seems like I watch RAW just to see if the WWF will get its act together. That's the only thing that keeps me watching these days, hoping that they will turn the corner. I'm finding myself disatisfied with the writing and booking alot. I'm tired of everyone being protected all the time, and the people who aren't protected usually are the ones who should be. I guess having all of the exposure that the WWF had was a good short term move, but what about the long run? All of their top guys have become stale twice as fast, and all of the matchups that would keep things fresh get exhausted quicker.

 

I'll try to be optimistic and say that the writing has been getting better, but the booking still sucks. I really want to say that the writing is getting better, but every time you turn around, the damn reset button is being pressed. I see Bischoff's signing as another example of that. Bischoff had a time and place in the WWF, and it's not now.

[Guest kane3212321]

Is it me or does Eric look like Mike Myers now?

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

When he showed up in the Booker T interview, I didn't recognize him at first cause he had black hair. The last time I remember seeing him he had gray hair.

[Guest caboose]

Okay, how long until Vince shows up on RAW and demands a match for control of RAW?

A week?

A month?

A year?

 

Personally I think about 6 weeks.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Well, Pinnacle, I don't think they're up to Russo standards on playing the 'net. And I think they know there's no way they can successfully pull the woll over the collective eyes of the IWC anyway.

 

And I imagine anyone who bought that HHH video (which seems to be selling well) would know about his time in WCW.

[Guest swan]

So I guess Mat Rats has been put on the shelf?

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

In honor of EZE on RAW, I have officially made an EVIL AVATAR featuring the new GM of RAW...!

 

And lets all remember that Eric Bischoff owns a 1-0 record vs Vince McMahon, unofficially of course...

[Guest Prince Paul]

But you see, Austin would have you know, made SENSE.

SENSE AND THE WWE...two things that don't go hand in hand.

 

I hate that it looks like this whole Bischoff thing will be about HHH. The promo was too long. It had some good points, but way too long. I was watching last night with someone who normally doesn't watch wrestling...they said, "what's the big deal, this guy doesn't wrestle." They also noted that he talked FOREVER. Another observation, off topic, was that Dreamer really resembles BUTT Head, of Beavis and BUTT Head fame. I laughed my ass off.

[Guest godthedog]

mark my words, this shit is going to fall flat on its face. this angle, the new world older coming to wwF, the invasion angle...they're all just stale retreads of the "guys from another company come to fuck up the system" angle, done by the original nWo. six years ago, it was cutting edge and original. now it's older than attitude. the writers have already shown us twice that they can't handle a 'big shake-up' angle like this competently, why sould bischoff's presence change anything? bischoff is only going to take vince's place on raw, being the evil non-wrestler who screws other guys. what original thing can they do with bischoff? the lyrics may have changed a little, but the song is still the same. how long is it going to take vince to figure out that a non-wrestling angle is NOT the way to get the ratings up?

 

speaking of bad angles, what the FUCK were they smoking when they signed chris benWAAAAAAAAHHHHH and eddie guerrero to a damn table match with the new dudleys? this is a) a totally useless burial of a guy who was *this close* to being a legitimate main eventer, and b ) dangerous. i can imagine the meeting that birthed this idea:

 

"well, benoit had to take a year off for a neck injury that originated when he went through a table, but he's back now & he's ready to wrestle."

 

"great, let's put him in a table match!"

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Vince McMahon is a cretin.

 

A lot of people probably don't have a clue who Bischoff is, and his promo wont have taught them anything. Oh, and why exactly are McMahon and Bischoff friends now?Bischoff leading the InVasion might have gone somewhere. Bischoff as the Owner/Commisioner/GM will fail like all the others.

 

The worst part is that Stephanie will be back in charge of SmackDown! which does nothing but harm. because she sucks at everything she tries, Shane would have been better.

 

When will Vinnie learn?he has tried these desperate signings many times this year simply for shock value, and when it doesn't change the ratings he'll probly just try again. I mean, seriously, how many times has the WWE "Started Again" in the last few months.

 

And couldn't they at least have done somethin with the HHH/nWo angle? rather than just imagining it didn't happen.

 

Oh yeah, and Bischoff is a dick

[Guest Razor Roman]

The only way SmackDown will be watchable is if Mick Foley is the GM. IT could actually make for some interesting contrasts between Bischoff's RAW and Foley's SmackDown! -

 

Bischoff could concentrate on big men and power matches (so HHH would fit in there) and Foley could actually talk about how he learned from the mistakes WCW made with not recognizing potential and not pushing the guys the crowd wanted to see pushed (like him & Austin in WCW) and how he liked helping along E&C, the HArdys, Kurt Angle, etc. He could be the awesome boss that everyone likes and goes to for advice and jokes around with- meanwhile some evil heel could be playing off his naievity somehow.. might be a good role for Jericho :-)

 

 

And he wouldn't need to be on a full schedule. If Vince wanted to, he could only be used on TV's for SmackDown, and PPV, 5 nights a month.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Yaaawn. The Markout Magic has worn off on you guys and you're all just slamming again. This thread was going on good for a bit.

 

And Anglesault, yes, Austin would make sense. But he HAS been almost the center of the entire WWE universe for years. To sit and sigh about HHH possibly being the focus of something after so many years of 3:16 is garbage.

[Guest snowfan]

Yaaawn. The Markout Magic has worn off on you guys and you're all just slamming again. This thread was going on good for a bit.

 

And Anglesault, yes, Austin would make sense. But he HAS been almost the center of the entire WWE universe for years. To sit and sigh about HHH possibly being the focus of something after so many years of 3:16 is garbage.

Yeah you're right. *snicker*

 

HGH hasn't been the center of anything since 2000.

 

My bad....

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

HGH hasn't been the center of anything since 2000.

 

My bad....

Well, we had the months of the Facgeme. Then the brief DX reunion and then... Nada. Hunter became a secondary storyline for Austin's return. He appeared in the Main Event of Survivor Series and had a car dropped on his head. Armageddon was a six-man HIAC and he wasn't involved in the finish.

 

Moving to 2001, Royal Rumble he was defeated by Kurt Angle in a World Title match. He d. Austin in 2/3 falls, but it was a good match (Keith gave it 5 stars). Backlash gave Austin & HHH the almost-worthless tag titles and then the quad tore.

 

 

I will agree with you that everything that happened after that quad tore (we found out HHH & Steph are shacking up, Jericho gets a weak title run and Kurt can't get a pin) is complete & utter bullshit. But except for the Facgeme period and November (which had the stupid car-drop finish), Triple H was mostly hanging around in secondary storylines or in Austin's shadow.

[Guest RetroRob215]

I agree with the guy who said Bischoff made no sense when the guy he could never sign was TRIPLE H?? Triple H as a nobody until 1998 and even then no one pegged him as a main eventer. Saying Shawn Michaels would have made sense. I was almost expecting Shawn to come out during the promo. BTW, what did JR said happened to HBK? I heard him mention Nash and Pac, but not Shawn.

 

Did anybody read what the WWE Superstars think of Bischoff returning? Here are the two most interesting:

 

Raven

I’ve always gotten along with him. He paid me a lot of money when I worked in WCW before. I have no complaints.

 

Bradshaw

I’ve always thought what goes around comes around. Honestly, I don’t know him. I don’t have an opinion. If he helps our product, then that’s good. But the son of a bitch tried to run us out of business, he messed with every one of our livelihoods, and now he’s here. If he can help us now, that’s fine. But we’re dancing with the devil.

 

Bradshaw seems to hate Bischoff the most, which makes little sense since he never worked with him. I can't believe Raven had nothing bad to say. I'm not surprised Flair wasn't asked about this.

[Guest Michael Joel Benoit]

I would love Foley as a gm but a face Shane could be fun.