Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 I think that secondary list SHOULD disqualify his pick How can anybody HONESTLY say Trish, HHH, and Benoit are three of the top 7 (WWE?) talent of all time? i think i forgot to mention that the list was just of my faves... the ALL-TIME ones are as follows Austin Undertaker Flair HBK Mick Foley(Cactus Jack, Dude Love, Mankind)
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 It was a favourite list, not a best list. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 It was a favourite list, not a best list. Different strokes for different folks I guess. yea...i know how that is..i say directly its my fave list....but did he see it......no.
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 I think that secondary list SHOULD disqualify his pick How can anybody HONESTLY say Trish, HHH, and Benoit are three of the top 7 (WWE?) talent of all time? i think i forgot to mention that the list was just of my faves... the ALL-TIME ones are as follows Austin Undertaker Flair HBK Mick Foley(Cactus Jack, Dude Love, Mankind) My mistake. Thats just fine for a favorites list, nobody can say who's a favorite. I'd just find trish on an all time greats list to be hilarious lol And now for MY personal opinion, the all time greats (no Hogan) work somethin like this.... Flair Hart Austin HBK Taker Foley And GOD I wanted to put HBK a notch above Austin.... but man I just cant, putting Hart over Austin was tough enough.... (no pun).
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 lol...tough enuff....funny....thats aiite....and yea, hart is a good all timer...i guess i forgot to add him, but oh well....what about owen....he was good wasnt he?he should be in the honored list....oh wait....he already is....
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Okay so thats fucking freaky, seeing as I just referenced the Black Hart in another post.... I dont think Owen deserves the list, as good as he was, he was never Bret. He may have been someday... but... who knows... Like Thurman Munson, maybe, but he didnt have enough, sad but true...
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Thurman Munson what was his wrestling name if he had one?? i hardly know all the WWE wrestlers real names except for taker, austin, HBK, and all the other obvious ones.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 He played baseball for the New York Yankees.
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Thurman Munson what was his wrestling name if he had one?? i hardly know all the WWE wrestlers real names except for taker, austin, HBK, and all the other obvious ones. lol He was a Catcher for the New York Yankees, whom in the middle of his career, died in a plane crash, and had a hall of fame career cut short at around his peak time as a player.
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 He played baseball for the New York Yankees. ooohhhhhh....no wonder i never heard of him before... i feel stupid now.
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Dont feel stupid, baseballs horrible. Damn labor unions, they cant keep ANYTHING in order. NFL's where its at, go Patriots
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Dont feel stupid, baseballs horrible. Damn labor unions, they cant keep ANYTHING in order. NFL's where its at, go Patriots oh great....you just had to say NFL didnt you?? now your gonna get it..... RAVENS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guest Army Eye Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 I guess it's just that I've always looked at someone like Benoit as being the best. But Austin's had a longer string of better matches? Or is that just WWF? I guess, I just want my guy to be the best. No harm in that right? (Sheepish grin) Nobody said Austin was a better worker than Benoit. The closest thing I can find to that was bps' saying Austin one of the best strings of top guys with great matches. Benoit has never been a top guy in the big two.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Yeah that's what I meant. I was comparing Austin's work with other fellow top guys like Hogan and such.
Guest Kid Kablam Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Ohhhhhhhh. Well it doesn't matter, I' enjoying this discussion a lot. Please continue (Kid Kablam continues to furiously scribble notes)
Guest Kid Kablam Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 And as a side note, I'm too young to remember Munson, was he really that good. I've often heard that he was kind of overrated (Note: No Bo Sox or Yankees fans can answer this question)
Guest Brian Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 I don't know. Owen had alot of flashes, but no real streak of greatness. And he was such a different wrestler, it's hard to compare.
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 maybe owen might be classified as....as.....i dunno.....its hard to think of a ranking class related to him.
Guest deadbeater Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Considere this: he can fight any type of match, and won't be considered an underdog in any of them. He had to discard one the best submission moves ever (The Stun Gun--no one got out of it ever) when he went to the WWF. He also used to be one of the best flyers as well before knee injuries grounded him. Another thing we forget: he was also one the greatest tag partner ever. His partnership with Brian Pillman in WCW was a considered his best one. But he also won with Foley, The Rock and HHH in WWF, as well as have memorable feuds with the three. Hogan is hurt because he couldn't be Blond Godzilla on these shores. Paradoxically, Hogan's best work was in Japan.
Guest Brian Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 He was so out there in the early part of his carerr. An excellent high flyer, really in a class of his own (because only really a few indy guys even compared to him) and he could hit the mat and build a great match. Bret was never like Owen, built like that and athletic as he was.
Guest Dark Fusion Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Considere this: he can fight any type of match, and won't be considered an underdog in any of them. He had to discard one the best submission moves ever (The Stun Gun--no one got out of it ever) when he went to the WWF. He also used to be one of the best flyers as well before knee injuries grounded him. Another thing we forget: he was also one the greatest tag partner ever. His partnership with Brian Pillman in WCW was a considered his best one. But he also won with Foley, The Rock and HHH in WWF, as well as have memorable feuds with the three. Hogan is hurt because he couldn't be Blond Godzilla on these shores. Paradoxically, Hogan's best work was in Japan. uhm....i dont mean to sound rude or corny...but could we please keep the wrestlers real names to a minimum please? or at least until i learn them all/or most of them.......is that too much to ask.......if it will be any easier....just email me a list of all the WWE superstars new/old skool and put their WWE names and their real names......that would be greatly appreciated....either that or i can just keep posting something like: "what was his/her WWE name??" and if your going to talk about someone non WWE.....let me know who the hell they are if i havent heard of them...before i make an ass out of myself... and thats the bottom line.
Guest thefrenchargel Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Bastion Booger's real name is Mike Shaw. That is the most pointless piece of information I know. Owen's stuff in japan rules all as well (what little i've seen) Owen vs. Wild Pegasus in Japan 93/94ish...find it, watch it, love it.
Guest Brian Posted July 28, 2002 Report Posted July 28, 2002 Liger vs. Owen from, I think January of 1991 is the most common
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted July 29, 2002 Report Posted July 29, 2002 Dont feel stupid, baseballs horrible. Damn labor unions, they cant keep ANYTHING in order. NFL's where its at, go Patriots oh great....you just had to say NFL didnt you?? now your gonna get it..... RAVENS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh go blow Elvis Grbac
Guest Just call me Dan Posted July 29, 2002 Report Posted July 29, 2002 Another thing we forget: he was also one the greatest tag partner ever. His partnership with Brian Pillman in WCW was a considered his best one. But he also won with Foley, The Rock and HHH in WWF, as well as have memorable feuds with the three. Hogan is hurt because he couldn't be Blond Godzilla on these shores. Paradoxically, Hogan's best work was in Japan. uhm....i dont mean to sound rude or corny...but could we please keep the wrestlers real names to a minimum please? or at least until i learn them all/or most of them.......is that too much to ask.......if it will be any easier....just email me a list of all the WWE superstars new/old skool and put their WWE names and their real names......that would be greatly appreciated....either that or i can just keep posting something like: Wait, what the hell are you talking aboiut? If you don't know who Brian Pillman is , it's because you probably didn't watch wrestling until around 1998. That WAS his name in WCW and the WWF. No one is going to baby you and point out anything you might not know because you haven't watched wrestling for long when replying to your posts. If you see something you might not know about, look it up, the internet is good for things like that. As far as questioning Austin's greatness, don't. Everyone else has explained him well enough, but the man is #1 on my list all time and has to be considered one of the BEST in this great sport by any wrestling fan.
Guest pochorenella Posted July 29, 2002 Report Posted July 29, 2002 Austin being one of the all-time greats in wrestling I think is without question. He's gone for now but his legacy will remain intact. I don't really want to go off-topic (this is a Stone Cold thread, after all), but since almost nobody on this board gives Shawn Michaels the respect I think he greatly deserves for his in-ring performances (nobody's mentioned his great match with Austin at WM XIV, both guys being greatly injured), if our friend Kid Kablam also wants a list of great HBK matches (and damn, it's a LONG list) I'll be more than happy to oblige. Austin is immortal, but not giving Michaels his props for all his terrific matches is really unjustified.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted July 29, 2002 Report Posted July 29, 2002 I give HBK all the credit in the world for being one of the greatest performers to ever set foot in the ring. But it is my opinion that he, Austin, Hogan, Nash, Flair and all need to stay out of it now. There is a whole generation of great talents that have not gotten a chance to take over because these guys hold on for too long. And it appears that generation (Benoit, Jericho, RVD, Eddy, Booker, Edge, Storm, Christian...and to a lesser extent Angle...but I still say his day will come when he is the #1 guy without question) is getting passed over for the generation after tham (Brock, Cena, Batista and the rest)
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