Brock "The Next Boring Thing" Lesnar

[Guest cynicalprofit]

man if your only 15, youve only been watching wrestling since what, 1990?(youd be like 3). While im not saying you havent studied your history or anything, 12 years watching doesnt compare much to over 2 decades for some people around here. Me, been watching since 83 roughly.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Just to let this kid know, I'm 20, turning 21 on August 7th. I'm really an old fart. Also, I've only been watching wrestling since 1998, so I don't know my history that well. This kid probably knows more than I do, which is kind of sad.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

If you bring up paying your dues, well, Lesnar did wrestle in the NCAA before coming to the WWE. If that's not paying your dues, I really don't know what is.

Umm, paying your dues means learning the buisness, staying in it for a long time, working hard at your art form, appretiating the ins and outs and all the details that come with it, working on how to talk on the microphone, and perform in the ring. Sweating it out for a while, and being able to shine at everything presented to you in the sport.

 

Nothing to do with NCAA Athletics.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Umm, paying your dues means learning the buisness, staying in it for a long time, working hard at your art form, appretiating the ins and outs and all the details that come with it, working on how to talk on the microphone, and perform in the ring. Sweating it out for a while, and being able to shine at everything presented to you in the sport.

 

Nothing to do with NCAA Athletics.

I can't really argue with that.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Phew I was hoping that'd sound good, I felt like I was typing a jumble

[Guest Ram]

I'd be 16, in fact.

 

"Paying your dues" can differ in definition depending on how it's used or who is using it. To some, it means the a long stay in the business before getting recognition and a chance/stay at the top (see Undertaker). To others, it means proving yourself and doing your best to improve (see RVD, Angle, Jericho). It can also mean doing an act/series of acts for the business (see Foley['s bumps]). It can somewhat mean proving yourself in the ability to give a good promo with slightly improving ring ability and good crowd playing (see Rock).

 

Brock hasn't accomplished any of those. His "monster" limitations don't allow him to improve his abilities in the ring. He has only just started sports entertainment. He hasn't really proved anything, other than he's a pretty strong guy. He hasn't put over anyone yet (also due to his "monster" limitations) and hasn't put himself in a line of bumping. He doesn't give promos, and whenever he does talk, its either not enough or very simple. He doesn't play the crowd during his matches, and stalls almost every other move.

 

He still has a ways to go before he should be anywhere near the main event. Dropping Heyman and the "monster-man" push would help him be able to show off what he can truly do. After a few good matches, he can head up to I.C. level, and work his way up there. Throwing him to the top, ESPECIALLY with the little crowd reaction he has, is truly an error of a move.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

I'd be 16, in fact.

 

"Paying your dues" can differ in definition depending on how it's used or who is using it. To some, it means the a long stay in the business before getting recognition and a chance/stay at the top (see Undertaker). To others, it means proving yourself and doing your best to improve (see RVD, Angle, Jericho). It can also mean doing an act/series of acts for the business (see Foley['s bumps]). It can somewhat mean proving yourself in the ability to give a good promo with slightly improving ring ability and good crowd playing (see Rock).

 

Brock hasn't accomplished any of those. His "monster" limitations don't allow him to improve his abilities in the ring. He has only just started sports entertainment. He hasn't really proved anything, other than he's a pretty strong guy. He hasn't put over anyone yet (also due to his "monster" limitations) and hasn't put himself in a line of bumping. He doesn't give promos, and whenever he does talk, its either not enough or very simple. He doesn't play the crowd during his matches, and stalls almost every other move.

 

He still has a ways to go before he should be anywhere near the main event. Dropping Heyman and the "monster-man" push would help him be able to show off what he can truly do. After a few good matches, he can head up to I.C. level, and work his way up there. Throwing him to the top, ESPECIALLY with the little crowd reaction he has, is truly an error of a move.

But you're forgetting the Golden Rule in the WWE

 

VINCE MCMAHON DOESNT MAKE MISTAKES!!!

[Guest mickberna]

Exactly. If playing sports equals paying dues, then Goldberg and Chris Nowitski are both seasoned veterans in the business, because they played NCAA sports.

 

And NCAA wrestlers in particular don't really do shit. They just lift weights and listen to metal all day until their matches.

 

Well dang, if that ain't payin' yer dues, I don't know what is!

 

I mean, sure, Lesnar's a freak, but he's got more experience in a tattoo chair than in a ring. He needs time to develop, and shouldn't have a world title already.

 

So anyway, I lost my point and I'm babbling. Time to stop.

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Because you dont show up somewhere and start running your mouth about everything thats right and wrong. You do that in a bar, people will beat your ass until the point where you'd be lucky if you werent bleeding from the ears.

Oh, how true it is.

 

A few people said since some guys have been in the business for a while they should get shots at the Main Event. Does that mean Bradshaw, Billy Gunn & X-Pac should be getting push towards the title?