Which of these three superstars....

[Guest thebigjig]

"but RVD's selling last night was horrible"

 

HE SOLD THE FUCKING ARM WHILE THE ARM WAS BEING WORKED ON.

 

GODDAMN IT

 

I'm starting to see what people mean when they say everyone on the board sounds the same.

 

Does anyone remember "Hulking up" or the Rock and HBK no selling entire matches my doing that stupid kipup at the end of them?

 

RVD didn't grab his arm for the last few minutes of the match...most of which time he spent face down on the mat or in the crossface.

 

Dammit.

Hey hey hey, simma down now

 

I didn't say it really took anything away from the match, nor did I specifically mention the arm. I just didn't think he sold that well that's all. I for one think RVD's style is somewhat over rated. I'm not bating anyone or begging for people to flame me on that comment, it's just my personal opinion. However, I was impressed with the match last night and I think RVD working with Benoit will not only help RVD but Benoit as well

[Guest Moses The Monkey]

Rob Van Dam.

 

 

Eddie, I just cannot see as a ME star for some reason.

 

Booker is great, but I have to agree with bps about the lack of good matches lately. Plus, RVD is younger than Booker, and would be in the ME scene for longer - With WWE's inability, or so it seems lately, to push new people into the ME, we need a star that's gonna be around for a while.

[Guest Anglesault]

I loved how RVD sold the hammerlcok suplex, with his arm just draped over his back. It looked broken.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Man...I need Benoit/RVD II now.

 

Very badly.

[Guest Anglesault]

If it's any consolation, Benoit will go to SD! and be sacrificed in the name of the Great Edge Push.

 

No wait, that didn't help at all...

[Guest thebigjig]

Hell, I'll order the ppv JUST for that match

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Me too.

[Guest NoCalMike]

At this point, it needs to be RVD. WWE doesn't need to "re-package" or do anything else to RVD to prepare him, he is ready NOW, and the marks and Smarks KNOW IT~!

[Guest Whatmaniac]

44 caliber with explosive tipped heads.

Trips would no sell, then convince Vince to send them down to work on their intensity.

 

 

You must be confusing him with the Undertaker. Trips will sell it like he's been err, shot.

[Guest Anglesault]

Trips would sell it like he sold death the last time: Not at all.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I'd say it is definitely RVD. He's already over, there is little they have to do. Just put him in the main event and BAM, he's a star.

 

Eddie is never going to be a main event type guy I don't think. He's too small and the whole Mexican ranting turns people off (not me, I get a kick out of it, but judging by other posters his rants aren't that popular).

 

Booker's level of overness is very misleading. Booker is comedy wrestler type over, not "we really care about this guy" type over. He's over in the back and on the mic but not in the ring.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

Booker T. Time is runnin out for him. He knows he doesn't have much time left, and most of us know it. He needs to go out on top. He's worked real hard and gone through a lot of the WWE's shit and he needs to be on top one good time in the WWE.

[Guest candie45]

RVD. But first, they must do a long fued with him and Benoit. Meanwhile, if they want to try elevating Booker T, they can. He's just not too over in the ring. People care about sucka, the spinerooni, and Bookdust, but then he starts to wrestle and the fans don't give a shit.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

bps, if its any comfort, I agree with you about the RVD match.

 

Though with HBK, he still at least winced and seemed to walk slower after his kick-ups from time to time.

 

Either way, the Benoit/RVD match did everything it was supposed to. Give Benoit the belt, let RVD have to chase him, show that Benoit threw all he had but still couldnt win legit, the staple of a good heel.

 

Infact, more heels have to do that. Nowadays it seems as if the entire point of a match for a heel is to cheat. It should be once you throw all you have at him, THEN you cheat because you've got nothing else left.

 

We need more of that.

[Guest Brian]

I think they need Eddie, just because they need a heel at main event level once Brock doesn't cut it.

[Guest Austin3164life]

Booker T

The Book is screaming for a Main Event face push, suckaaaa!

[Guest Narcoleptic Jumper]

Booker T. A win over Triple H would solidify him in the main event and make him a HUGE star (like he isn't already).

[Guest Brian]

Problem with Booker is he still needs to be totally rebuilt.

[Guest thebigjig]

Yeah, they need to stop pushing Booker as a goof

[Guest godthedog]

I'm starting to see what people mean when they say everyone on the board sounds the same.

actually, when people say that they're usually referring to the hhhaters...

 

Does anyone remember "Hulking up" or the Rock and HBK no selling entire matches my doing that stupid kipup at the end of them?

i hate it when the rock does it, and i REALLY fucking hated it when michaels did it. how does this excuse rvd forgetting to sell the arm after the match?

 

RVD didn't grab his arm for the last few minutes of the match...most of which time he spent face down on the mat or in the crossface.

okay, this is what pissed me off: he was in the crossface twice, and after the match was over, he just got up. no holding the shoulder in pain, not even shaking the shoulder, acting exactly as if he'd never been in it. it destroyed the credibility of benoit's finisher, because it made it look like rvd was never really in any danger of tapping out. if benoit hadn't worked the arm the whole match & had hit the crossface out of nowhere for the submission, it would've been okay. but he had his arm worked the entire match, & was in the crossface for a long damn time. wrestlers do shit like this all the time, but i tend to overreact when someone does it with benoit, cause...well, it just pisses me off when someone makes benoit look bad.

 

austin got put in the ankle lock midway through his summerslam '01 match & limped the rest of the time. jericho had his shoulder worked in the benoit ladder match & put in the crossface, and he couldn't even raise his arm for the victory. THAT'S how you sell someone else's finisher. NOT by just getting up after the bell rings.

 

oh yeah, the discussion topic...booker t, for sheer markout value. he's not all that great in the ring but he's gotten himself over by sheer willpower and energy, i can't NOT cheer for him.

[Guest El Satanico]

RVD is the best canidate of the 3 at this point.

 

He's insanely over which would make the matches better and he's much improved wrestling wise. There's no reason that he shouldn't get that ME push.

 

Booker T deserves a ME push more but he would be much better off at the IC level while they are rebuilding him into a credible guy.

 

I like Eddy alot but he's better off as a IC level guy at this time. But WWeee must tone down the Latino Heat promos and just let Eddy talk normal. Eddy always had that eh esse accent but it was more subdued and not over the top like it is now.

[Guest ShamRock]

I agree with bps.Booker did have dissappointing matches with Benoit and Eddy.

 

RVD gets my vote.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Okay, not to step on anybody's toes, but the whole "Booker had disappointing matches with Eddy and Benoit while RVD didn't" is complete horseshit.

 

Honestly, what the hell did you expect for a friggin' 5 minute match? RVD was given 10+ minutes with both guys and managed to have some good matches while Booker barely even gets 7 minutes with either guy.

 

I'm not saying anybody is wrong for picking RVD or whatnot, but using the "disappointing matches" excuse is just flat out pathetic considering the circumstances.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

If he can't get me interested in anything that goes on in that 5 minutes...

 

I want him as far away from the Undertaker and HHH as possible.

 

That pretty much goes for most people though.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Actually...I could take that a step farther and say that he had a terrible match with Taker at No Mercy and a terrible match with Brock in the KOTR qualifying round.

 

I don't remember his Raw match with HHH...but I seem to recall it was decent enough.

 

As much as I don't like it...Taker, HHH and Brock are pretty much going to be the top 3 people...OMG that makes me so sad...after Rock leaves.

 

RVD and Brock resulted in Brocks best on camera match...and RVD/Taker is usually better than Taker vs. Anyone.

 

So I think using that as a reason for wanting one guy over another is fine.

 

That being said...Eddy owns in that category.

 

Go Eddy.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Screw the three of them and push Benoit!

[Guest godthedog]

Screw the three of them and push Benoit!

word.

[Guest Brian]

They're rebuilding Benoit like they should be doing with Booker. I'm fine where he is. Eddie all the way.

[Guest midnight_burn]

I'd have to say Rob Van Dam, though ideally all three would be pushed to main event level.

[Guest Ironman]

The Book.