Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted February 21, 2002 You know I was wondering something. Why does Austin get to be superman? Sure he's a tremendous wrestler but ight now he seems to be Superman. During the Alliance angle he was definetly superman(need I remind you all of when he cleared the ring of like 30 guys?) But what I mean is with the nWo they all run to the ring to beat on him at No Way Out and he won't sell anything for them. He just keeps fighting back. And the nWo is bumping like mad men. Taking a huge dive every time Austin lays a finger on them. And then Hall stuns him and he sells it like he's dead. Ok so he's only going to work with Hall....ok I guess, should be a really good match. Then on SmackDown! the nWo runs from him. Yes he chases them all thorughout the show. And they cower from him. How come they can beat the hell out of the Rock but when Austin attacks they act like they're all going to die? Why is Austin booked as this superman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 21, 2002 A) because Austin said that he wouldn't sell for the nWo and on No Way Out he proved who the real egotistical bastard in the WWF is. B) Because the WWF is too scared to have Austin sell for the nWo because they are trying to protect him because Hogan will probably retire in 2-3 years, Nash has about 3-4 years left in him and Hall is nothing on his own. But Austin has at least 5 years left in him (as long as he doesn't get injured). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Fett Report post Posted February 21, 2002 Austin apparently despises all three of their guts and is very hesitant to work a program with Hall so I guess booking him as superman is way to persuade him into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted February 21, 2002 I think it's the same "Hall factor" that comes into play. How could Austin sell for hall or the rest of the nwo, knowing scott will sell like crazy for x pac and their friends just to make him look bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shockmaster! Report post Posted February 21, 2002 I think it's the same "Hall factor" that comes into play. How could Austin sell for hall or the rest of the nwo, knowing scott will sell like crazy for x pac and their friends just to make him look bad? Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 21, 2002 I think it's the same "Hall factor" that comes into play. How could Austin sell for hall or the rest of the nwo, knowing scott will sell like crazy for x pac and their friends just to make him look bad? Huh? That's what I was thinking! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted February 21, 2002 As good a wrestler as Austin is, he should know that you can't have a huge ego if you want an extended career, be it in-ring or behind the scenes. Wait... Hogan...Flair... GOD DAMMIT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 21, 2002 Because he's Stone Cold. Stone Cold has always fought against the odds. It's his character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 21, 2002 He got his ass kicked at No Way Out remember. This is typical Austin because now he is pissed and looking to kill someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest old_mort_wwfe Report post Posted February 21, 2002 well...it would get pretty repeatitive if every show the NWO beat up there victims in one sided ass kickings..oh wait...that was Nitro for almost 2 years! sorry Austin fights back becuase hes Austin and its in his character..and like i said..maybe someone attempting to fight back isn't that bad either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jedisrm Report post Posted February 22, 2002 wrestlemania is going to suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shockmaster! Report post Posted February 22, 2002 wrestlemania is going to suck Thank you, Miss Cleo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted February 22, 2002 No it won't everybody expects 8 **** matches...Seriously...Look back at all the "great" Mania's...Most had 2 ***3/4-***** matches...4 ** matches and a couple dud-* matches. Look at WM8 (considered a great Mania)-One ****3/4, a ***3/4, 3 *3/4, 1 ** and a pair of duds. WM3-one ****3/4, a series of *3/4 and many *-**. WM10-Two ***** and the rest were *-**. WM6-One **** and bunch of **. ...only Two Manias had no matches below *3/4...(WM17 and WM14) So expect a WM8/10 type of show...Couple great shpws and a bunch of nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest molestomp Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Stone Cold acts like Superman because that is his character. He is a bad ass, that takes no shit from nobody. It isn't like he doesn't want to sell to them, but he has ALWAYS done that. Look at times that SCSA was getting his ass beat, he always got up like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest erotic jesus Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Okay, I am just curious, because this is news to me: Who ever said that a) Austin would not sell for the nWo, or b) Austin "hates their guts"? The most I have read is that he is not thrilled about facing Hall at WM, because he is afraid he won't even be in the company then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Austin won't sell for the NWO? I guess that must have been someone else getting pinned by Jericho at No Way Out... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Personally, I think Austin deserves alot more than being stucjk in a program with a bunch of dinosaurs who can't work. People are critical of Angle having to work with someone beneath them. Hall is NOT a main eventer. He is a high mid carder at his peak and he has declined since 97. Why should Austin, the biggest star in the last 5 years have to resort to fighting a meaningless match with a subpar competitor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Well maybe during the nWo storyline we can just call Austin.....STEVE AU-STING~! I remember when Sting was basically booked as superman, but that gimmick was, what, a year in the making? -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted February 22, 2002 "Well maybe during the nWo storyline we can just call Austin.....STEVE AU-STING~! I remember when Sting was basically booked as superman, but that gimmick was, what, a year in the making?" Man, I have been saying the same thing in reference to the unoriginal booking of this angle. Sub the name Austin for Sting and the name Rock for (DDP, Luger, etc.) and it's the same damn thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 22, 2002 As good a wrestler as Austin is, he should know that you can't have a huge ego if you want an extended career, be it in-ring or behind the scenes. Wait... Hogan...Flair... GOD DAMMIT! Ric Flair never had an ego, if he had an ego then he would have went over Hogan when he was in the WWF, he would never have took the shit he got in the NWA from Dusty and he would never have been treat like shit from Bischoff either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted February 22, 2002 He didn't really take that much shit from Dusty. He spent the latter part of the 80's refusing to put Luger over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shockmaster! Report post Posted February 22, 2002 All superstar wrestlers have/had big egos but that doesn't necessarilly make them the Anti-Christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted February 22, 2002 I for one say that if Austin doesn't want to work with the NWO, he shouldn't have to. If Vince needs Austin to make the NWO work, and Austin says NO...he should take that as a hint that he shouldn't have hired them. Turnabout's fair play says I. I don't blame Austin for hating Hogan. That's what getting fucked in the ass by someone who only cares about themselves SHOULD lead to. Blind hatred. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Well maybe during the nWo storyline we can just call Austin.....STEVE AU-STING~! I remember when Sting was basically booked as superman, but that gimmick was, what, a year in the making? Yeah, Vince hasn't got a clue anymore. Bischoff must be sitting at home somewhere laughing his ass off that the only ideas that Vince McMahon can come up with are copied off Eric Bischoff. BTW - Vince McMahon's decision to bring the nWo in was a very good one. IMO Hogan is a bigger draw than Austin ever was and the fact is that Steve Austin's popularity has been dwindling since the end of the Attitude era, he's only known for the "WHAT?" catchphrase now and as soon as that dies down "bye bye Austin, enjoy life in the mid card" and I, for one, will be very happy. I have nothing against Austin as a person but I hate his character. And if he's so arrogant that he thinks he's bigger than the guy (Hulk Hogan) who helped build the company that he works for then he deserves to spend life in the mid card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted February 22, 2002 You realize that Austin outsold and outpopped Hogan until he got injured??? Austin is the most popular man in the history of our sport. He far surpasses Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 22, 2002 You realize that Austin outsold and outpopped Hogan until he got injured??? Austin is the most popular man in the history of our sport. He far surpasses Hogan. He outsold and outpoped Hogan IN 1997. Compare how popular Austin was in 97 and how popular Hogan was between 85 and 92. Hogan was so popular that anyone who feuded with him (whether it was a monster heel or a jobber) was suddenly hated by the fans, Austin was never that over. The WWF have never sold out arenas as big as the ones that they sold out before Hulk Hogan left (72,000 for Wrestlemania 3 - Hulk Hogan Vs Aundre the Giant, 67,000 for Wrestlemania 6 - Hulk Hogan Vs The Warropr, 62,000 for Wrestlemania 8 - Hulk Hogan Vs Sid Justice). The only thing Austin outsold Hogan in was merchandise and that's because Hulk Hogan was around in a time when Merchandise was only sold in the USA, Merchandise is now sold around the world. Hogan made that possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted February 22, 2002 He outsold and outpoped Hogan IN 1997. Compare how popular Austin was in 97 and how popular Hogan was between 85 and 92. Hogan was so popular that anyone who feuded with him (whether it was a monster heel or a jobber) was suddenly hated by the fans, Austin was never that over. Personally, I'd say 85 to 92 is stretching it. Maybe 85 to 90 and maybe some of 91 with the Slaughter feud, but that's pretty much it. He feuded with taker in late 91 and Taker was getting cheered and then there's the infamous 92 Rumble where the fans turned on him when he cheated to get rid of Sid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted February 22, 2002 Personally, I'd say 85 to 92 is stretching it. Maybe 85 to 90 and maybe some of 91 with the Slaughter feud, but that's pretty much it. He feuded with taker in late 91 and Taker was getting cheered and then there's the infamous 92 Rumble where the fans turned on him when he cheated to get rid of Sid. Yeah, 92 is stretching it. But I think up to about Wrestlemania 91 is about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted February 23, 2002 Hey Austin/Rock sold out WM17. And it wasn't just Hogan and Sid at WM8...it was the intrigue of the world title match. Plus Austin's monster pops make Hogan's look like Edge getting cheered......well I wouldn't go that far but you know what I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted February 23, 2002 I don't like Hogan at all, but the man has gotten some insane pops over the years. I can at least give him credit for that and would say that he and Austin are pretty much tied or close to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites