Brock vs. Edge?

[Guest Anglesault]

That wasn't a meaningful match. Until you mentioned it, I wouldn't be able to tell you how they UnAmericans won the belts. And didn't Edge get his revenge right away by destroying Jericho in a cage and Chasing him and the UnAmericans off the fucking show?

[Guest The Ruthless Aggressor]

Cue mention of some obscure match no one remembers

You mean a match he lost? Gladly. How about last ppv, against the Unamericans?

That was a tag match, and it was far from clean.

[Guest CanadianChick]

That wasn't a meaningful match. Until you mentioned it, I wouldn't be able to tell you how they UnAmericans won the belts. And didn't Edge get his revenge right away by destroying Jericho in a cage and Chasing him and the UnAmericans off the fucking show?

Thats true. BUt I don't see how he is moving up the card when he goes from Angle to meaningless tag team reign to Eddy Guerrero in a thrown togther match. He does win, but those wins don't help him or hurt his opponents.

[Guest Anglesault]

He is getting a push because he wins pretty much all of his matches. He may not be at the top of the card, but I don't even remember the last time he lost.

Well, if he isn't in the main event, and has been at the same place in the card fo 4-5 monthes, then all those wins didn't matter too much, did they?

He's been moving steadily up the ladder humiliating every oponent he's faced on the way up.

how is it moving up if he went from Angle 2 1/2 monthes ago to Guerrero? I love Eddy, but he isn't that high on the card.

He flattened Eddy. It's not like it was moving down the ladder if you just steamrole through a guy.

[Guest candie45]

I'm not saying it isn't possible for Angle/Brock to happen, it's just that it would be odd if they are trying to gather heel heat for Brock and they put him up against the most over heel. Edge isn't ready, but I'm afraid that the WWE fail to recognize or reason and they will shove him down our throats ala Brock.

Thats a very good point, but I htink that Angle would be a face. I mean, who is a face on Smackdown, other than Edge?

Speaking of Edge, I don't think that he is being shoved down our throats. After the Angle feud, he hasn't really been pushed that much. He was injured after the blwoff to the Angle feud, he was in a tag team with Hogan which didn't go anywhere and at Summerslam, he was put in a thrown together match against Eddy. Where is the huge push that everyone has been talking about?

If Angle turns face than it's totally possible. Unfortunate though because Angle will job, again. However, if it ends up where Angle gets the title in the blowoff than I will be happy.

 

I was talking about that it is very likely that Edge will be getting pushed to the moon. He IS getting a push right now, just not a super Brock push.

[Guest CanadianChick]

He flattened Eddy. It's not like it was moving down the ladder if you just steamrole through a guy.

I didn'y say he was moving down..I just think that he has been in the same place every since Angle. Anyways, barely beating Angle and 'steamrolling' through Eddy=the same place in the card IMO.

[Guest Anglesault]

That wasn't a meaningful match. Until you mentioned it, I wouldn't be able to tell you how they UnAmericans won the belts. And didn't Edge get his revenge right away by destroying Jericho in a cage and Chasing him and the UnAmericans off the fucking show?

Thats true. BUt I don't see how he is moving up the card when he goes from Angle to meaningless tag team reign to Eddy Guerrero in a thrown togther match. He does win, but those wins don't help him or hurt his opponents.

Another thing. If Edge DOES lose, he comes back with a vengeance. He lost to Angle, then made Kurt his bitch for two months, shaved his head, embarassed him at every turn, and beat him two more high profile matches.

 

He lost to the UnAmericans, but then he killed Jericho in a cage and chased all four guys off the show.

[Guest CanadianChick]

If Angle turns face than it's totally possible. Unfortunate though because Angle will job, again. However, if it ends up where Angle gets the title in the blowoff than I will be happy.

 

I was talking about that it is very likely that Edge will be getting pushed to the moon. He IS getting a push right now, just not a super Brock push.

I think that a LOT of people would be funny if, when the dust settled, Angle had the belt, including me.

 

I was just pointing out that Edge's push isn't that big, because people act like that his push is HUGE

[Guest candie45]

Thats true. BUt I don't see how he is moving up the card when he goes from Angle to meaningless tag team reign to Eddy Guerrero in a thrown togther match. He does win, but those wins don't help him or hurt his opponents.

At least he gets put on a card when he has nowhere to go at the moment. That's more than Jericho can say... (Backlash)

[Guest The Ruthless Aggressor]

The Edge push has been handled really badly. He jobbed to William Regal two months in a row, and was beating Kurt Angle night in night out just a few months later.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Another thing. If Edge DOES lose, he comes back with a vengeance. He lost to Angle, then made Kurt his bitch for two months, shaved his head, embarassed him at every turn, and beat him two more high profile matches.

 

He lost to the UnAmericans, but then he killed Jericho in a cage and chased all four guys off the show.

It isn't set in stone that that is how Edge's feuds go. Anyways, I don't suspect that he willl win the title from Brock anytime soon. WWE is hellbent in pushing Brock (not that tonight proved that), and not Edge to the same extent.

 

And I agreed with you in the UNAmerican's point, so yeah.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Thats true. BUt I don't see how he is moving up the card when he goes from Angle to meaningless tag team reign to Eddy Guerrero in a thrown togther match. He does win, but those wins don't help him or hurt his opponents.

At least he gets put on a card when he has nowhere to go at the moment. That's more than Jericho can say... (Backlash)

Thats becaseu Edge doesn't have a steriod driven idiot out to get him...

[Guest Anglesault]

Another reason why People complains about The Edge push. He NEVER loses a feud, and he ALWAYS makes his oponent look bad when he wins the feud.

[Guest candie45]

If Angle turns face than it's totally possible. Unfortunate though because Angle will job, again. However, if it ends up where Angle gets the title in the blowoff than I will be happy.

 

I was talking about that it is very likely that Edge will be getting pushed to the moon. He IS getting a push right now, just not a super Brock push.

I think that a LOT of people would be funny if, when the dust settled, Angle had the belt, including me.

 

I was just pointing out that Edge's push isn't that big, because people act like that his push is HUGE

Yeah, I think that Brock should go into a program with someone else for the moment and go to Angle after, or have a longer fued with Angle now if they must where Kurt wins at the end. So Angle has the belt for Wrestlemania. It would be better if they built up the Angle face turn a bit.

 

I didn't know if you were talking about me with the Edge push comment... so... yeah.

[Guest The Ruthless Aggressor]

And you know why HHH isn't out to get him? Because he realises he's a talentless idiot who will never be a big star.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Another reason why People complains about The Edge push. He NEVER loses a feud, and he ALWAYS makes his oponent look bad when he wins the feud.

He hasn't made Guerrero look bad. And Angle got out fine, making HOgan tap the next month. Regal was the same as he went in. I don't consider his thing with Booker to be a feud. Unamerican's came out fine.

[Guest Anglesault]

Another reason why People complains about The Edge push. He NEVER loses a feud, and he ALWAYS makes his oponent look bad when he wins the feud.

He hasn't made Guerrero look bad. And Angle got out fine, making HOgan tap the next month. Regal was the same as he went in. I don't consider his thing with Booker to be a feud. Unamerican's came out fine.

Edge got the upper hand over Eddy everytime they met. Angle was humiliated or two months, had his had shaved, and wore a goofy wig for a month. The UnAmericans ran from Smackdown in terror.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Yeah, I think that Brock should go into a program with someone else for the moment and go to Angle after, or have a longer fued with Angle now if they must where Kurt wins at the end. So Angle has the belt for Wrestlemania. It would be better if they built up the Angle face turn a bit.

 

I didn't know if you were talking about me with the Edge push comment... so... yeah.

That would great. Build the feud and teh blowoff would be huge. And that title change would be aweome. But if you guys don't want him to feud with Edge, and wait for the Angle feud until Wretlemania, who shall he feud with now?

 

And I was talking to everyone in this thread casue I'm the only Edge defender right now

[Guest candie45]

And you know why HHH isn't out to get him? Because he realises he's a talentless idiot who will never be a big star.

But if somehow Edge becomes good...

 

*sung to Santa Claus is coming to town*

 

You better not be over

You better not be good

You better not have talent, I'm telling you why

Triple H is coming to town.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Edge got the upper hand over Eddy everytime they met. Angle was humiliated or two months, had his had shaved, and wore a goofy wig for a month. The UnAmericans ran from Smackdown in terror.

Edge hasn't humiliated Eddy yet, though. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't. The UNamerican's were running from Cena, Rey AND Edge

[Guest CanadianChick]

And you know why HHH isn't out to get him? Because he realises he's a talentless idiot who will never be a big star.

I'm still trying to understand why he is so untalentless. He just had a pretty good match with eddy. Hate to break it to you, but it takes two people to have a good match, and Edge was one of those people.

[Guest candie45]

I'm still trying to understand why he is so untalentless.

So you admit Edge doesn't have talent?

[Guest CanadianChick]

I'm still trying to understand why he is so untalentless.

So you admit Edge doesn't have talent?

hey! You know thats not what I meant! Conspiracy!

[Guest candie45]

Here's the list of the Smackdown superstars. There's not many options.

 

AL SNOW

ALBERT

THE BIG VALBOWSKI

BILLY

BILLY KIDMAN

CHAVO GUERRERO

CHUCK

CHRIS BENOIT

DAWN MARIE

D-VON

DEACON BATISTA

DIAMOND DALLAS PAGE

EDGE

EDDIE GUERRERO

FAAROOQ

FUNAKI

GODFATHER

HARDCORE HOLLY

HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN

HUGH MORRUS

THE HURRICANE

IVORY

JAMIE NOBLE

JOHN CENA

KURT ANGLE

MARK HENRY

MATT HARDY

MAVEN

NIDIA

PAUL HEYMAN

RANDY ORTON

REY MYSTERIO

RICO

RIKISHI

SATURN

SCOTTY 2 HOTTY

SHANNON MOORE

STACY KEIBLER

STEPHANIE MCMAHON

THE ROCK

TAJIRI

TORRIE WILSON

TAZZ

[Guest CanadianChick]

shit, there is litterly no other top faces other than Edge...wow.

[Guest Anglesault]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

[Guest CanadianChick]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

[Guest Anglesault]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

But if you need something THAT major (Two first ever tap outs from legends) to recover from a feud, was it really worth it?

[Guest CanadianChick]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

But if you need something THAT major (Two first ever tap outs from legends) to recover from a feud, was it really worth it?

I guess it was worth it for Edge. HE got elevated and, as some of youthink, it started a huge push. Personally, I thin kthat Edge got elevated and hasn't moved anywhere since. But kudos to Angle for moving him up from midcard to upper midcard.

[Guest Anglesault]

If it takes that much for one guy to recover from a feud, EDGE isn't worth it.