Brock vs. Edge?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

An Edge/Brock feud? Why, God, Why?

 

 

*Prays for a RVD/Angle feud*

[Guest Anglesault]

No, Angle and RVD are on seperate shows and Rob is IC champ. I'd like them to feud, but you have to solve those problems first

[Guest AndrewTS]

Could some one explain to me why there is interest in pushing Edge, when Jericho and RVD have been over huge and are better than him in every conceivable way? Benoit I can understand not getting attention because of lack of mic skills, but RVD and Jericho, no. (And RVD has decent mic skills, and what little he says is funny. ANYONE awarded 20 minutes like HHH can go out there and ramble on and on, and no one is giving HHH credit for good mic skills).

 

It figures that out of all of the mid-sized wrestlers (around the 6' mark), they'd push Edge. Ugh...he's a poor-man's Y2J.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

No, Angle and RVD are on seperate shows and Rob is IC champ. I'd like them to feud, but you have to solve those problems first

I meant that would be the best feud for the Undisputed title.

 

 

I know they're on different shows.

[Guest Anglesault]

Could some one explain to me why there is interest in pushing Edge, when Jericho and RVD have been over huge and are better than him in every conceivable way? Benoit I can understand not getting attention because of lack of mic skills, but RVD and Jericho, no. (And RVD has decent mic skills, and what little he says is funny. ANYONE awarded 20 minutes like HHH can go out there and ramble on and on, and no one is giving HHH credit for good mic skills).

 

It figures that out of all of the mid-sized wrestlers (around the 6' mark), they'd push Edge. Ugh...he's a poor-man's Y2J.

Edge is home grown. RVD is ECW, Jericho is WCW/ECW. Same thing with Brock. He is homegrown. They push him over Angle for...whatever reason, because he was always WWF too.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

But if you need something THAT major (Two first ever tap outs from legends) to recover from a feud, was it really worth it?

Of course it's worth it. New talent gets elevated! What's the problem here?

 

Edge gets elevated from working a good program with Angle. Angle gets elevated (or brought back to where he was, if that's how you perceive it) by getting Taker and Hogan to tap out. We end up with an elevated Edge, Angle at least at the same level he was at before, and doing so at the expense of geriatrics who are nearing the end of their runs anyway.

 

Please, please tell me what's wrong with that. And "they should have given it all to Angle or RVD or Jericho or Benoit or Eddy" isn't an acceptable answer. No one can deny that, at this point, Edge is a bigger star than he was at the beginning of the year. Isn't that EXACTLY what people have been clamoring for the WWF to do? Create new stars? They're not taking the easiest route, but they sure are doing it.

[Guest Anglesault]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

But if you need something THAT major (Two first ever tap outs from legends) to recover from a feud, was it really worth it?

Of course it's worth it. New talent gets elevated! What's the problem here?

 

Edge gets elevated from working a good program with Angle. Angle gets elevated (or brought back to where he was, if that's how you perceive it) by getting Taker and Hogan to tap out. We end up with an elevated Edge, Angle at least at the same level he was at before, and doing so at the expense of geriatrics who are nearing the end of their runs anyway.

 

Please, please tell me what's wrong with that. And "they should have given it all to Angle or RVD or Jericho or Benoit or Eddy" isn't an acceptable answer. No one can deny that, at this point, Edge is a bigger star than he was at the beginning of the year. Isn't that EXACTLY what people have been clamoring for the WWF to do? Create new stars? They're not taking the easiest route, but they sure are doing it.

What if Hogan and taker WEREN't there to tap out? Angle would be FUCKED. Angle was very lucky to have his horrible Edge Feud wen he did, because Taker and Hogan were available to tap out. But what if they started Edge/Angle again right now? What the hell would Angle do to recover from that?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

. Is Angle still feeling effects from his Edge feud? NO, he isn't.

It took the first ever WWF Tap out from Hulk Hogan and the Undertaker for Angle to recover.

The point is that he recovered. Angle is good a t recovering from stuff like that. IT just proves his talent.

But if you need something THAT major (Two first ever tap outs from legends) to recover from a feud, was it really worth it?

Of course it's worth it. New talent gets elevated! What's the problem here?

 

Edge gets elevated from working a good program with Angle. Angle gets elevated (or brought back to where he was, if that's how you perceive it) by getting Taker and Hogan to tap out. We end up with an elevated Edge, Angle at least at the same level he was at before, and doing so at the expense of geriatrics who are nearing the end of their runs anyway.

 

Please, please tell me what's wrong with that. And "they should have given it all to Angle or RVD or Jericho or Benoit or Eddy" isn't an acceptable answer. No one can deny that, at this point, Edge is a bigger star than he was at the beginning of the year. Isn't that EXACTLY what people have been clamoring for the WWF to do? Create new stars? They're not taking the easiest route, but they sure are doing it.

What if Hogan and taker WEREN't there to tap out? Angle would be FUCKED. Angle was very lucky to have his horrible Edge Feud ™ wen he did, because Taker and Hogan were available to tap out. But what if they started Edge/Angle again right now? What the hell would Angle do to recover from that?

Well, to be fair the WWE could rebound Angle a thousand different ways.

 

Plus, believe it or not the WWE's booking doesn't entirely revolve around Angle. Maybe, they could have de-pushed him and then re-pushed later.

 

Not saying it's right, but still a possibility.

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

What if Hogan and taker WEREN't there to tap out? Angle would be FUCKED. Angle was very lucky to have his horrible Edge Feud ™ wen he did, because Taker and Hogan were available to tap out. But what if they started Edge/Angle again right now? What the hell would Angle do to recover from that?

Who knows. Maybe enter an awesome program with Benoit and put on some amazing matches? Or turn face and be the guy to finally pin Lesnar? Or he could tear through the midcard/upper midcard, making everybody tap out, big stars and not. There's a ton of possibilities for any wrestler in the federation--the writers just have to create them.

 

You can expect the worse if you like, but you should at least remember that there's always an out.

[Guest Anglesault]

A program with Benoit would do no good for either of them. They both need main event cred.

 

Be the first man to pin Brock: See, you would need something so damn extreme to recover from one feud.

 

Or he could tear through the midcard/upper midcard, making everybody tap out, big stars and not.  

 

Yeah, Kurt, you kick John Cena's ass week in and week out. The fans will belive that you are a contender after that...

[Guest the pinjockey]

Let's see what the Edge Angle feud did. Edge afterward became an established upper-midcarder and Angle needed Hogan and UT to become a lower main eventer (I will give a little benefit of doubt there).

 

Now what could have happened if Angle had dispatched of Edge. Angle would have been a main eventer. Hogan could have tapped to the Walls of Jericho after a feud launching Jericho to full main event status. And UT could have been pinned cleanly by the five-star to establish RVD as a lower main eventer at worst.

 

So Edge Angle where Edge wins

lower main eventer + upper midcarder

 

Edge/Angle where Angle wins

lower main eventer + 2 full fledged main eventers

 

Edge winning cost about a main eventer and a half.

[Guest Zack Malibu]

What about a Mysterio/Brock match, with Rey bumping all over the place for the big lug? Though they need to decide quick if they're pushing Rey as a heavyweight or a cruiserweight.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Let's see what the Edge Angle feud did.  Edge afterward became an established upper-midcarder and Angle needed Hogan and UT to become a lower main eventer (I will give a little benefit of doubt there).

 

Now what could have happened if Angle had dispatched of Edge.  Angle would have been a main eventer.  Hogan could have tapped to the Walls of Jericho after a feud launching Jericho to full main event status.  And UT could have been pinned cleanly by the five-star to establish RVD as a lower main eventer at worst.

 

So Edge Angle where Edge wins

lower main eventer + upper midcarder

 

Edge/Angle where Angle wins

lower main eventer + 2 full fledged main eventers

 

Edge winning cost about a main eventer and a half.

Be realistic. WWE wouldn't make Hogan tap to Jericho. And Edge would have ntohing to do with it. As far as I see Edge got elevated to elevate new stars and Angle ended up in the same place in the card as he was before. ANd how would Angle dismantling a mid-carder make him a full fledged main-eventer?

[Guest the pinjockey]

Because I think that Angle was a credible main eventer before the Edge Feud.

 

And I am wondering what you mean that Edge would have nothing to do with it? I don't understand the comment.

 

If by that you mean Edge would not be getting elevated I would take an Angle,RVD, and Jericho trio as main eventers in a trade for Edge being elevated and Angle being made the fool anyday of the week.

[Guest Anglesault]

It would show that he could beat a midcarder. The Edge feud (The matches, and Edge's comments) showed that Angle could NOT beat a midcarder.

[Guest CanadianChick]

And I am wondering what you mean that Edge would have nothing to do with it? I don't understand the comment.

I meant that Edge not getting elevated would not help Jericho to get elevated because it wasn't Edge getting pushed instead of Jericho or anyting like that. Sorry for the confusion.