Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 here are some house show numbers since the Lesnar title victory: 9/1 (afternoon show) Dallas, Texas (drew approx. 3,500 in a building that seats 20,000. Upper deck didn't need to be used) 9/1 (evening show) Chicago, Allstate Arena (building seats 19,000, was less than half full, upper deck closed) 9/2 LaCross, Wisconsin-- 1,500 in a 6,000 seat building Showing, that the WWE has blown it. Brock was not built up for a title reign and it seems like he is bombing so far as the champ. Of course the WWE writer idiots will blame it on Brock and not themselves. Then they will hand the title to HHH. Painful.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted September 4, 2002 You know Anglesault is going to be *all over* this.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 4, 2002 It's been a week- give him some time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted September 4, 2002 That and attendance has been down all over. The Dallas one is a little suspect to me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted September 4, 2002 YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Okay..I don't really mean it. Wait..yes I do. YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted September 4, 2002 House show business : down across the board Brock : champ for one week Anyone trying to do an analysis of his title reign at this stage is a dolt. He'll get blamed for the awful buyrate of the next PPV though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 4, 2002 This has been going on for months. I'm not defending Brock, but its hard to blame him for events where most of the tickets were sold before he was champion. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted September 4, 2002 I went to a Flint, Michigan house show last July...if I had to guess I'd say they drew 1,500 tops...and that's the first time they've been in Flint in probably 8 years or so. House show attendence is WAY down...they are playing to tiny houses these days. WWE is going to have to consistantly put on good show after good show to get the fans back...no quick fixs...they've lost a shitload of casual fans that they're going to have to get back. And you cannot just blame whoever has the title on low attendence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 4, 2002 That and it was a holiday weekend they traditionally run in Canada. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bricks Report post Posted September 4, 2002 "9/2 LaCross, Wisconsin-- 1,500 in a 6,000 seat building" Who's going to pay for a house show when you can sit at home and watch Raw for free... even if it's bound to suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 "He'll get blamed for the awful buyrate of the next PPV though." Actually...now he and Taker can share the blame with HHH/RVD. Although I tend to think that HHH/RVD would result in more buys than Brock/Taker... because Brock hasn't been anything that people want to see...and Taker hasn't drawn anything since his return in 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 here are some house show numbers since the Lesnar title victory: 9/1 (afternoon show) Dallas, Texas (drew approx. 3,500 in a building that seats 20,000. Upper deck didn't need to be used) 9/1 (evening show) Chicago, Allstate Arena (building seats 19,000, was less than half full, upper deck closed) 9/2 LaCross, Wisconsin-- 1,500 in a 6,000 seat building Showing, that the WWE has blown it. Brock was not built up for a title reign and it seems like he is bombing so far as the champ. Of course the WWE writer idiots will blame it on Brock and not themselves. Then they will hand the title to HHH. Painful.. I guarantee that the majority of those tickets sold were when the Rock was still champ. Remember Lesnar has only been champ for over a week now. I think your bitching is starting just a tad too early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Leena Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Haven't the house show attendances been way down for a while? I agree that Brock was built up horribly to be a champ, and if anything the recent house shows should go up because Brock has just started getting some form of heat. I think it's more that the entire WWE is not giving what the fans want, and it's been boring television because of it. HHH, misusing the likes of Angle & Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 house shows have been in a steady decline since 2000 haven't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted September 4, 2002 People (well, marks at least) don't pay to see heels, they pay to see the good guys. So if the house show numbers are down, it's probably because the babyfaces scheduled to be at these shows aren't drawing. In the Smackdown crew's case, that would be Undertaker, Edge, Rey Mysterio, and probably Rikishi. See, not a very strong babyface lineup, is it? If The Rock were on Smackdown, these numbers would be higher. Don't blame Brock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnny Blaze Report post Posted September 4, 2002 You guys need to cool it with the whole Brock hating thing. He hasn't impressed me too much in WWE yet. But remember, a whole shitload of you guys hated on Angle when he first debuted and look how good he is now. I'm not saying Brock is as good as Angle, but give him time, he could still improve by leaps and bounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted September 4, 2002 I think the days of blaming the champ for poor attendance are over. When the last guy to have a three month title reign is Chris Jericho (and this is not a knock on Jericho, but look at how he's been used since), fans aren't necessarily paying to see the champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted September 4, 2002 How come every thread that BPS posts in has to end up with something about RVD or Triple H? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 It was relevant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kid Kablam Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Personally I don't know why people hate Brock other than the fact that McMahon shoved him down our throats for a long time. I mean it's as if people have DECIDED not to like him, and are sticking with that decision quite nicely. As for his title reign, if there IS a problem it's cause he's been made to look like a fool for the uber ego Triple H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Personally I don't know why people hate Brock other than the fact that McMahon shoved him down our throats for a long time. Shoving him down our throats? I thought Vince was just giving us what we wanted. I seem to recall everyone on the board LOVING Brock when he first started showing up. What happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 What happened was: The love of Brock wore off as soon as he stepped in the ring for a match... ...and sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Don't you think "sucked" is kind of harsh? Brock is/was no worse than Rhyno was in ECW, and no one seemed to hate him. And wasn't Rhyno pushed to the main event early on as well? At least Brock is way better than your main eventers from a few months ago, i.e. Undertaker and Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 ECW was a lot different than the WWE. A guy who wasn't good being the champion of a comapany that isn't good...who cares. But when you have the roster that the WWE has... a bad wrestler as champion is just wrong. But the WWE usually has bad wrestlers as champion (Taker, Hogan, HHH's run) but at least those guys had heat. My problem isn't with Brock...it's with the WWE's thinking that putting Brock in his position is anything resembling a good idea. At this point...he is better suited to be in the Jamal and Rosie role on RAW... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Rhyno was never pushed as a main eventer- he was a jobber to all the top stars. Rhyno has had some really good matches, Brock hasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted September 4, 2002 I hated Brock since he clotheslined Molly in order to get cheap heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted September 4, 2002 rhyno DID pin the rock at least once, come on. Brock seems to have done the impossible in winning over a Long Island crowd too. I too say give it time, he seems to be getting some heat now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Rhyno was never pushed as a main eventer- he was a jobber to all the top stars. Rhyno has had some really good matches, Brock hasn't. Um, he won both the TV and World titles. I'd say that's a push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Again.. you are comparing a dying cult level bingo hall playing sideshow... to the biggest wrestling company in North America...maybe the world. So... no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 4, 2002 Brock hasn't wrestled actively horrible enough to warrant all this hate. He's had one good opponent (the Rock) in five months of being in the WWE. We're like the only message board I've seen that hates Brock so actively from his push that we can't recognize he's a decent wrestler. Give him time; facing Undertaker isn't going to help. And Rey Mysterio is the new Ricky Morton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
