Phillip Morris has to pay $28 BILLION in damages

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

"This is really stupid. If I drink way too much Coke and it rots my teeth can I sue them for billions? They never told me it would do that. For shame Coca-Cola."

 

You better start drinking before someone beats you to it (re: ME)...

 

Damn you both!

 

*eats asbestos and injects Palmolive/beef fat into his veins, and waits for the dough to come rollin' in*

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Be sure to stop at McDonalds on the drive to your lawyer's office as well.

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

Have no fear. I'm already filing suit against Some Guy and kkktookmybabyaway for being a bad influence and giving me such an idea. Plus an additional suit against the latter, because his title offends me...y'know, cause of the KKK...and stuff.

 

Also against Phillip Morris, as they are very rich.

 

Everything is proceeding according to my design.

 

*cough*

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Nobody saw the article where they presented advertisements from the teenage years of the person in question.

 

Phillip Morris wanted to hide this stuff for quite a long time. I know I've made myself quite vocal in my personal anti-smoking beliefs, but outside of Current Events boards I don't really make any kind of a stink (pun not intended) about it like I do in here. I know people will smoke, whether through addiction or because they actually want to (go see my huge debate with Some Guy =b)

 

However, if smokers moved to brands by RJ Reynolds and others, and everyone stopped buying this crap, the hurt could be put to this company without goofy lawsuits.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I just smoke whatever is on sale. Lately, there's been a bunch of buy one, get one Parliaments around here, for only $3 and change, so I've been hitting that up.

[Guest MrRant]

Nobody saw the article where they presented advertisements from the teenage years of the person in question.

 

Phillip Morris wanted to hide this stuff for quite a long time. I know I've made myself quite vocal in my personal anti-smoking beliefs, but outside of Current Events boards I don't really make any kind of a stink (pun not intended) about it like I do in here. I know people will smoke, whether through addiction or because they actually want to (go see my huge debate with Some Guy =b)

 

However, if smokers moved to brands by RJ Reynolds and others, and everyone stopped buying this crap, the hurt could be put to this company without goofy lawsuits.

I would never give up Kraft Cheese.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Because they use milk cultures from nicotine-enriched cattle, thus making it impossible to quit eating their singles. They should put a surgeon general's warning on every package.

 

"Caution: Made from 5 oz. of milk that is harder to kick than heroin."

[Guest gthureson]

Didn't big tobacco get an exemption from this nonsense when they settled their $300 billion class-action lawsuit and agreed to fund non-smoking ads and the like? Thought that was part of the deal. We'll take this hit, and you *never* bother us with these lawsuits again.

 

Or does that settlement not affect California?

[Guest Some Guy]

Believe me, you would. Wait until you try to quit. You'll be in for quite a surprise.

 

EDIT: And I don't mean that in a crass way. I wouldn't wish addiction on anyone. But EVERYBODY who has ever died from years of smoking had thought at one time that they had the willpower to quit at any time they liked.

It is very hard to quit smoking, I grant you that. When I was a Frosh in HS I got hypnotized to quit and it worked for about ten minutes. I've tried (not very hard) to quit a few times but my heart wasn't in it. I really only tried at various times because my mother or g/f or whoever was bitching about it, not because I personally wanted to.

You have to want to quit in order to. My grandparents both smoked for decades and then one day they just decided they wanted to quit and they did cold turkey. My father has smoked for 40 years and has no desire to quit, but when he has a desire to cut back, he does. It's not just the addiction, it's about actually wanting to quit. I know this may be hard for the anti-smoking people to understand but some people really like smoking, I do, my father does, Marney and Agent have said they do as well. It is an enjoyable habit for some, unfortunately there are some bad side effects that come along with it, just like those who drink copius amounts of coffee every day or bite their finger nails or whatever.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

THAT's the problem, they manipulated nicotine levels in tobacco to make it near impossible to quit. They made that choice and now they are paying for it.

No, they're paying for the learned helplessness that has become a staple of the American lifestyle due to the poisonous liberal nothing-that-happens-is-ever-your-fault philosophy.

 

And quitting smoking is easier said than done.

So is everything else. Cry me a river.

 

Yes, nicotine is addictive. Sure, the tobacco companies used that fact to their advantage. No, they don't owe anyone a dime because of it. No one forced anyone else to smoke. No one forced them to continue. And no one ever pretended it was good for you.

If you were stupid enough to think that it was, you don't deserve medical damages and you certainly don't deserve any punitive awards. "Pain and suffering" is what you should expect if you're such a complete moron.

[Guest EricMM]

People keep saying that Cigs are harder to quit than heroin, but the only thing close to that that I've heard is that there is a higher relapse rate for cigs than heroin, which is simple because you can't buy Horse out of machines...

 

Actually I haven't seen many cig machines recently did they get rid of them?

 

Either way. I think smoking is gross. But is P-M liable for what people did to themselves? Not 28 Billion liable. Like I've said, it's not particularly "right" or "nice" for a company to market poison as a product, but on the other hand, where do you draw the line? Are you against alcohol too? Red meat as well? These things WILL give you cancer, and are AMAZINGLY hard to quit.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Alcohol gives you cancer?

[Guest Some Guy]

Cigarette machines might be illegal in some states, but they are still around in bars and otehr places where underage people can't get in. They were a great idea for cigarette companies, in that when they were all over the place kids could easily buy smokes and pick up the habit and then keep it up when they turned 18. This is rightly so the reason why they aren't really around much, although they are convient, but the cigarettes sometimes sit in the machine so long that they get stale.

[Guest EricMM]

Ok fine, no, you're right, I don't think it gives you that much cancer.

 

But they all give you "things" and I mean bad "things" like Cirrocus (sp) of the liver, a bad heart, and things like that.

 

Shit, what about sugar? Does diabetes ring a bell? TECHNICALLY, we'd be in a much better place if we didn't sugar up our cereal, juice, soda, candy, food, drink, etc. But you'd never see an American eating unsweetened food, unsalted food, and the like.

 

Well, you'd see that rarely I mean.

 

My point is almost nothing fun is good for you. Food? It's probably killing you. Drugs? It's definitely killing you. Sex? You'd be LUCKY to get sex without it ending in tears, babies, or horrible evil rashes.

[Guest Some Guy]

My point is almost nothing fun is good for you. Sex? You'd be LUCKY to get sex without it ending in tears, babies, or horrible evil rashes.

Well so far so good for me.

 

::Waits and prays for g/f to get her period::

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Ok fine, no, you're right, I don't think it gives you that much cancer.

 

But they all give you "things" and I mean bad "things" like Cirrocus (sp) of the liver, a bad heart, and things like that.

Cirrhosis. Yeah, that and fucking awful hangovers, let me tell you. My skull is trying to tear itself apart.

 

<curls up in her chair and nurses a cigarette, trying not to whine too much>

[Guest bob_barron]

I got a question about this case

 

Are they 100% sure the lady got cancer from smoking? I mean- maybe she's just unlucky

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

Yea, wouldn't that be great? If it turned out that every person who got lung cancer just happened to smoke, bug didn't get cancer from cigs? And it turned out that it was just one freakish coincidence? Even though it's not true, I think that'd be hilarious.

[Guest danielisthor]

Even though the 28billion will get a dramatic reduction ( i think the 3billion lawsuit was reduced to 100million), it'll probably get paid through the subsidy that we taxpayers send them every year. Might want to go find this lady and get my money back.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

Here is my full say now that I read more up on this issue:

 

This bitch is a greedy fuck who just tries to not see that she was at fault for the current state she is in. And deserves NOTHING in return. Because second hand smoke is something you CAN"T buy but can STILL get sick from. So I should sue people like her for why I cough up a lung when I get near smokers.

[Guest Ozymandias]

Because second hand smoke is something you CAN"T buy but can STILL get sick from. So I should sue people like her for why I cough up a lung when I get near smokers.

 

Well, local governmets are trying to protect you from second hand smoke by banning smoking at restaurants, workplaces, bars, sporting events, and anywhere else you might be subjected to it. But whenever they do they get criticized for "oppressing smoker's rights".

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I would never give up Kraft Cheese.

I have to admit it's difficult to say goodbye to Altoids, but tough things were never easy.

 

I already buy Red Baron pizzas now instead of Tombstone.

[Guest EricMM]

Well, local governmets are trying to protect you from second hand smoke by banning smoking at restaurants, workplaces, bars, sporting events, and anywhere else you might be subjected to it

 

Ok, so what happens if you get smoke in your face? Do you...

 

1) Move

2) Ask the person to take it outside

3) Screech and run around like a little nancy boy going "HEEEELP Exhaled smoke HEEEEELP me govt. HELP ME!!!

4) Deal with it

 

The way I see it, if you have a majority of non-smokers in an area, who are vehement about not being smoked upon, then you all should ask the smoker to kindly take it outside. However, if you are the only non-smoker in the room, then you should take YOURSELF outside. You are the exception.

 

Personally I've always done 4. If that means I will DIE from second hand smoke, so be it. But I don't think people turn into pariahs just because they're smoking. You know a LOT of really great people smoke. Really great people. AND they have a method of meeting each other, it's called sharing a light. I don't have that. Maybe smoking is the way to go...

 

Sike, I think it's gross, but so are obese people, and hammertoes. But some obese fat person with hammertoes could still be a good person. But NOOO you'd probably want to outlaw obese people

 

*EDIT* PS dont' dis the mac n' cheese! *EDIT*

[Guest Ozymandias]

Well, local governmets are trying to protect you from second hand smoke by banning smoking at restaurants, workplaces, bars, sporting events, and anywhere else you might be subjected to it

 

Ok, so what happens if you get smoke in your face? Do you...

 

1) Move

2) Ask the person to take it outside

3) Screech and run around like a little nancy boy going "HEEEELP Exhaled smoke HEEEEELP me govt. HELP ME!!!

4) Deal with it

 

The way I see it, if you have a majority of non-smokers in an area, who are vehement about not being smoked upon, then you all should ask the smoker to kindly take it outside. However, if you are the only non-smoker in the room, then you should take YOURSELF outside. You are the exception.

 

Personally I've always done 4. If that means I will DIE from second hand smoke, so be it. But I don't think people turn into pariahs just because they're smoking. You know a LOT of really great people smoke. Really great people. AND they have a method of meeting each other, it's called sharing a light. I don't have that. Maybe smoking is the way to go...

 

Sike, I think it's gross, but so are obese people, and hammertoes. But some obese fat person with hammertoes could still be a good person. But NOOO you'd probably want to outlaw obese people

 

*EDIT* PS dont' dis the mac n' cheese! *EDIT*

You mean if you get smoke in your face away from one of the public places afforementioned? I don't understand what you're specificly referring to.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

1) Move

2) Ask the person to take it outside

3) Screech and run around like a little nancy boy going "HEEEELP Exhaled smoke HEEEEELP me govt. HELP ME!!!

4) Deal with it

"Little nancy boy" made me laugh.

 

you'd probably want to outlaw obese people

<raises her hand> That's me.

[Guest Ozymandias]

No, they're paying for the learned helplessness that has become a staple of the American lifestyle due to the poisonous liberal nothing-that-happens-is-ever-your-fault philosophy.

Those aren't liberal ideals. And if what you said was correct, then people all over would be suing the alcohol industry daily. But they aren't because the alcohol companies did not LIE FOR DECADES about the extent of the damage their product could do to a person, nor did they chemically alter their product to addict people to it knowing full well that doing so condemned some people to death.

 

Yes, nicotine is addictive. Sure, the tobacco companies used that fact to their advantage.

 

No, the alcohol industry has used the natural addictive powers of alcohol to their advantage. The tobacco industry went and altered nicotine levels to ridiculous amounts in order to prevent people from being able to quit. That goes light years beyond "taking advantage".

 

No one forced them to continue.

 

Yes. They did. They manipulate nicotine levels to the point where it is near impossible for long-term smokers to quit. Is that so hard to understand?

 

And no one ever pretended it was good for you.

 

The tobacco industry lied and pretended that smoking wasn't unhealthy - knowing full well that the opposite was true.

 

 

Look people, the fact of the matter is that tobacco companies LIED for decades to the American people (of which she is a member) about the damage smoking does and the addictive powers of the nicotine they add. So this isn't about someone blaming another for their own misfortune, it's a matter of public health.

 

She deserves every penny.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

I refuse to believe that the American people as a whole are functional illiterates, weak-willed whiners, liars, and imbeciles to boot.

 

Despite the case study that your posts comprise.

[Guest Ozymandias]

Whoops, double post.

 

Since this post will remain, allow me to take this oppurtunity to recommend the book, Nine Stories by J.D. Salinger. Orgasmically good.

[Guest Ozymandias]

I refuse to believe that the American people as a whole are functional illiterates

What on Earth would suggest illiteracy on my part?

 

weak-willed whiners

 

My will is very strong if only because I haven't fallen for your bullshit and loud-mouthed grandstanding. And since when is reporting sad facts, "whining"?

 

liars

 

What did I lie about?

 

and imbeciles to boot.

 

People who hold opinions different than your own are imbeciles?

 

Despite the case study that your posts comprise.

 

Do you have ANY form of intelligent criticism regarding my post or are you just going to make vague insults and hope people buy it? That's the 2nd night in a row you've resorted to that.

 

Good Lord, you are pathetic. Let me ask you something: after I had the BASIC courtesy to respond to your earlier post in a polite, lucid, mature and non-insulting manner - do you really think ANYBODY would be impressed by your Grade School insults when its obvious that you have NOTHING left to say?

 

Free advice: you're a fucking dummy. At least accept this and know enough to keep your trap shut when you feel that somebody has proven you wrong and you don't have an intelligent response.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

There's really nothing left to say. You're an illiterate because you can't read the perfectly clear facts that have been placed in front of your nose. You're a weak-willed whiner because you subscribe to the find-someone-to-sue liberal philosophy as a panacea for everything that can possibly go wrong with a person's life, and you believe it's the government's job to protect people from their own vices. You're a liar because you stated that this submoronic woman didn't know cigarettes would kill her. And you're an imbecile because you actually seem to believe that absurd lie.

 

Your basic courtesy was worthless as you are worthless and your shrilly indignant opinions are worthless. You haven't proven anything or anyone wrong. Anyone with any sense at all has always known that cigarettes cause cancer - not for decades, but for centuries. But suddenly, like the 450 lb obscenities "discovering" that fast food will make them fat and worthless, a bunch of pathetic, money-grubbing smokers are "discovering" that cigarettes cause cancer.

 

Forgive me if I'm slightly skeptical. Here's some free advice for you: you're a cancer yourself. You want to excuse everyone's actions and refer them to invented villains, so that suing someone else for your own failings and your own stupidities becomes an acceptable substitute for actual work. You think someone deserves $28 billion for indulging in something that obviously brought her pleasure for 47 years, when it's blindingly obvious that she's acting out of pure greed. Did she sue when it finally seeped through her thick skull that cigarettes really do cause cancer? Unless she's been in a coma for the past two decades, I find it difficult to believe that she just happened to make this momentous discovery at the exact same time she herself was diagnosed with cancer. She saw her illness as a way to make a quick buck. And the drivelling idiots in California promptly obliged her.

 

There's a reason it's called the most clueless state in the Union.

 

Betty Bullock is a contemptible snivelling little worm. And so are you.