Cute Little Trick they played last night.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

Don't worry, guys.

 

You won't have to see a Brock/Edge feud..

 

Until WRESTLEMANIA~!. I'd give a good bet that Edge/Brock will have to headline WM, if HHH/Taker dosen't.

 

They don't trust Angle enough. Eddy, Benoit, Angle, Rey are too talented. RVD and Booker are too over.

 

That leaves WWE Homegrown vs WWE Homegrown.

 

Expect another massive Edge push.

[Guest Anglesault]

Expect another Anglesault bad period (Remember how much fun I was from March to June of this year?)

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Cool it everyone.

 

Back on target:

 

Since when does "what other face is there" mean anything to the WWE?

 

This is the same company that after Bubba push failed, skipped RVD, buried him despite fans going nuts to see him beat HHH, and went with a Kane is a murderer angle instead out of nowhere.

 

1 week after Kane was given a different direction.

 

I swear...everyone in the company is just pieces on a chessboard for HHH and Taker to move as they see fit.

 

Example 1: The changing of the Brock/Taker ending last month because the big pussy wasn't feeling it.

 

Example 2: Um...what ever happened to that IC title?

[Guest Brian]

I'm still expecting Brock/Angle, since we're the only ones I've heard any speculation of that main event from. Everyone else either says Brock/Rock or Brock/Angle.

[Guest the 1inch punch]

At the rate the WWE is going, Brock/Angle is going to be the only WM match that doesnt blow goats

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Someone please give a good reason why Brock sucks?

 

For a guy his size, he moves fast when called for and he bumps.

 

He may be a little green in some places, and yeah yeah he was pushed too fast, but he hasn't been that bad. Look what he has been working with for the last 2 months now.

 

Do you really expect a Man his size to work like Benoit, Eddie, Angle or Storm?

 

Oh, and he is over now, so don't try that excuse.

[Guest snowfan]

Someone please give a good reason why Brock sucks?

 

For a guy his size, he moves fast when called for and he bumps.

 

He may be a little green in some places, and yeah yeah he was pushed too fast, but he hasn't been that bad. Look what he has been working with for the last 2 months now.

 

Do you really expect a Man his size to work like Benoit, Eddie, Angle or Storm?

 

Oh, and he is over now, so don't try that excuse.

Someone sees ANYONE other than a certain Olympian getting a push as an affront.

[Guest Trivia247]

theres more than that.

 

This Baby hewey is given a Goldberg like Push. And he gets to bump off others at Main event level so they can get something FRESH and NEW in a form of some guy that looks up a Gigantically Roided up 5 year old. and as the result of his Push...People like Benoit and Angle are now in Tag hilarity, Jericho is gonna feud with Booker T and on the otherside RVD instead of going against HHH goes against Ric Flair..JOY!

 

Notice....that as Soon as Brock joined Smackdown. BATISTIA was forced to Join Raw? Maybe its because Batisita is the heat stealer with his Simple angry man Spinebuster! I think there is something there.

[Guest Brian]

"This Baby hewey is given a Goldberg like Push."

 

Does a Goldberg like push include selling for the Hardy's, getting man-handled by Bubba, and not winning your first real feud?

 

"and as the result of his Push...People like Benoit and Angle are now in Tag hilarity,"

 

If the WWE can't give them solid storylines as it is, do you really expect that they'd be main eventing without Brock?

 

"Jericho is gonna feud with Booker T and on the otherside RVD instead of going against HHH goes against Ric Flair..JOY!"

 

RAW has little to do with his push.

 

"Notice....that as Soon as Brock joined Smackdown. BATISTIA was forced to Join Raw? Maybe its because Batisita is the heat stealer with his Simple angry man Spinebuster! I think there is something there."

 

Oh wow, they don't want Batista. Well whoopdidoo! What's the big deal anyways? Batista hadn't done shit in the ring yet, and RAW needed new faces. Same reason they moved Orton over; and it was one of the reasons a lot of people liked SmackDown better. They were introducing these new wrestlers, giving them a rub, and getting guys in their lower mid-card who were willing to work a little.

[Guest snowfan]

theres more than that.

 

This Baby hewey is given a Goldberg like Push. And he gets to bump off others at Main event level so they can get something FRESH and NEW in a form of some guy that looks up a Gigantically Roided up 5 year old. and as the result of his Push...People like Benoit and Angle are now in Tag hilarity, Jericho is gonna feud with Booker T and on the otherside RVD instead of going against HHH goes against Ric Flair..JOY!

 

Notice....that as Soon as Brock joined Smackdown. BATISTIA was forced to Join Raw? Maybe its because Batisita is the heat stealer with his Simple angry man Spinebuster! I think there is something there.

Yeah and you are a UT mark that thinks he is the best thing for the business since sliced bread...

[Guest Trivia247]

Im not so Markish that im wearing his T shirt or saying Catch in Phrases (REST IN ) Whoops that almost peeped out...

 

I Know its so terrible im not on the Taker BASHING Bandwagon...

 

but If I LIKE Haku I can Like anybody so

 

and My being a Taker fan doesn't make my opinion On Brock's Goldberg-like rise any more Valid...

 

DOES IT SNOW FAN?

[Guest snowfan]

Im not so Markish that im wearing his T shirt or saying Catch in Phrases (REST IN ) Whoops that almost peeped out...

 

I Know its so terrible im not on the Taker BASHING Bandwagon...

 

but If I LIKE Haku I can Like anybody so

 

and My being a Taker fan doesn't make my opinion On Brock's Goldberg-like rise any more Valid...

 

DOES IT SNOW FAN?

Look there is no similarity in the way Brock is being pushed and the way Goldbond was pushed. Goldbond sold nothing his entire fist year. Hell one could argue his entire "career".

 

I am a Snow mark. You don't see me defending Al's crappy work though. I call them as I see them, and the fact that Vince screwed Al by yanking him back from ECW where he was over as hell isn't my cause celbre'.

 

I don't even argue that if Aardvark and Deadtired Man Limping were deposed that Al would suddenly rise fom the ashes and be the "new star". I think Vince has done a pretty good job of ruining Al's credibility. Life goes on and Tough Enough is as good a place for Al as any.

 

You can honestly act as though Deadtired Man Limping isn't a locker room cancer. I mean he acts as though he is still a credible force, a zombie who "doesn't have to sell"(even though he sold MORE as a "zombie", and a draw. I don't know who is more delusional- him or his fans.

 

 

I would sell your attempted cleverness at the end of the quoted post, but "I ain't feeling it."

[Guest Trivia247]

I don't go insulting Al Snow's work because there is nothing too Insult. Snow kicked ass since the early stuff I saw him in ECW's Double tables match with Chris Benoit. Al Snow is great wrestler. But you seem to have a problem with me because Im a Taker fan and Not With you on bashing him. LIKE YOU DID JUST THERE. So Why so Hostile? you seem to be with me on every post I have on HHH.

 

NOR I MIGHT ADD Im not saying Taker is anything like he was in 90. But Obviously I Must be Delusional because I have to not be in my right mind because im not bashing him or bitching or moaning about him to retire?

[Guest snowfan]

I don't go insulting Al Snow's work because there is nothing too Insult. Snow kicked ass since the early stuff I saw him in ECW's Double tables match with Chris Benoit. Al Snow is great wrestler. But you seem to have a problem with me because Im a Taker fan and Not With you on bashing him. LIKE YOU DID JUST THERE. So Why so Hostile? you seem to be with me on every post I have on HHH.

 

NOR I MIGHT ADD Im not saying Taker is anything like he was in 90. But Obviously I Must be Delusional because I have to not be in my right mind because im not bashing him or bitching or moaning about him to retire?

You are down with UT exerting influence to be booked as though he is still champ and Brock is chasing HIM?

 

UT needs to let go his past, pass the torch, and take his money and ride off in to the sunset on sara.

[Guest Trivia247]

Yea thats why he is messing with Matt Hardy...

 

And I Psychically.... can tell you are about to say. He squashes Matt Hardy...

 

Well let me put it too you this way... Undertaker is at least being in the same ring as Matt Hardy.

 

HHH probably doesn't know where those Lower card rocker rooms even are...let alone stand in the same ring as People like The Hardys Tommy Dreamer Randy Orton.

 

Hell He wrestled Spike Dudley and Jeff Hardy and Slapped on a Sleeper. Thats acceptable?

 

Undertaker at least didn't use any circa 1987 finisher on his opponents because He is SUPERIOR to them and so they MUST tap to a Sleeperhold. At Least Undertaker gave them enough respects to Finish them off with his Finishers. My point is here. At LEAST he with these people in the ring. HHH wouldn't dirty his hands with the undercardsmen unless he picks them as a Angle to prove what a GREAT Champion he is by belittling them into a Sleeperhold.

 

Now... lets go to this HORRIBLE SACRILAGE of him not bumping or selling....

 

Have you ever Seen the Undertaker....As Mean mark Callous or as the Master of Pain... Or the Punisher...Have you seen him...EVER SELL or BUMP?

And Suddenly he is suppose to Bump and sell more than he does. Lets face the facts here. Mark didn't bump or sell well when he started. I wouldn't expect him to suddenly learn after all this time. That doesn't mean he doesn't sell...If he didn't sell he still do the Zombie sit ups. Now he sells...Sells like the Sandman yes but does sell. He bellows out In PAIN.. Aren't you happy he is in PAIN? aren't you? Undertaker has been the Champion only 4 times vs Hogan vs Sid vs Rock vs Hogan again. he hasn't been Champion the number that people like the Rock, Austin, HHH have. Taker had Dozen years now. IM Not here Demanding he get the World title like other people demand their favorites do. All Im doing is being the Opposition to your Desire to bash him. I don't expect Undertaker to be winning the Title any time soon. I don't know how long Taker has Left but Im Not gonna DEMAND hope or Pray to Speed him any Day shorter. I wouldn't do that to ANY wrestler. Despite your hatred these guys are Hard workers and work their asses out there In the midst of Pain injury wear and tear that comes from wrestling. Im Not gonna Tell ANY wrestler to retire if Im not even gonna be brave enough to go in and take a Piledriver or run the ropes a couple of times.

 

stop fighting with me. Im not fighting with you.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I don't understand how a board that goes on about Batista, who has a freakin' SPINEBUSTER as a finisher, also rips into Brock.

 

That's like saying you love Cheddar cheese but can't stand the taste of American.

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Ah, that patented "Taker Rub". Now Matt Hardy has the honor of saying that he got squashed by the Undertaker. Look what it's done for legends like X Pac, Jeff Hardy, and Tommy Dreamer.

 

But hey, at least Taker sold for the ringpost.

 

As for Batista, his misguided fans just haven't seen him enough to be dissapointed in him. They'll learn when he fights Kane.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

I like the Spinebuster as a finish. I know that I marked out for it every single time that I saw Arn Anderson hit that bitch.

 

It's just like the DDT.. it's still a great move, and a believable finish.. just over used by the WWE main event scene. Kind of like the Superplex. Anyone remember when Barry Windham hit the top rope superplex.. but he held them in the air for awhile.. then fell back and floated over straight into a pin? Now that was a finish.

[Guest Brian]

Yeah, Undertaker's never been that good of a seller but even in his deadman days he's sold better. He sold better during his title reign. But Brock's the champ, and he sold horribly for him. He sandbagged meaning he didn't even attempt to get up on some of those throws. Brock bumped like hell for him and Taker couldn't be bothered to move any harder for him. He got his finished changed, his two false finishes. He got most of the offense, and looked damn good. He half assed it, plain and simple.

 

Taker was punching a chair and he couldn't sell it. Matt got to brag and Taker got to kick his ass. Sounds almost like Jericho.

 

Noody has tried to pass off what Triple H does as being good. That's just you trying to justify Undertaker with the worst possible example.

[Guest Anglesault]

Someone please give a good reason why Brock sucks?

 

For a guy his size, he moves fast when called for and he bumps.

 

He may be a little green in some places, and yeah yeah he was pushed too fast, but he hasn't been that bad. Look what he has been working with for the last 2 months now.

 

Do you really expect a Man his size to work like Benoit, Eddie, Angle or Storm?

 

Oh, and he is over now, so don't try that excuse.

Someone sees ANYONE other than a certain Olympian getting a push as an affront.

Brock has shown me no reason to get anything but a lower midcard push. I can name six people who deserve it more than him.

[Guest Anglesault]

Oh, and if you want to pull this "he's good for a big guy" Must I remind you, he is neither tall, nor heavy.) (6'4 295) so that is BULLSHIT. He doesn't fulfil any big man requirements, and even if he did, I measure my big men by the Vader standard.

[Guest Trivia247]

aw well

 

Anyway the Taker hating wasn't the tangant this thread was started for....Though its interesting how every thread seems to lead to it....

 

Brock vs Either edge or rey isn't gonna do wonders for anyones career. Once Brock defeats Undertaker, then that means Whomever Defeats Brock has to be someone major. A Angle or Benoit type major. Edge or Rey Mystero would just be More Fodder for the Beast. Which brings to the point of Then Not who...But WHEN does Brock drop the title? Survivor Series...Armageddon.. Royal Rumble Wrestlemania...Will Brock lose it when Vince finally solidifies the Titles and Brock loses to the Booking MIGHT of HHH?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Someone honestly tell me that Brock is good enough and is deserving of his spot as champion.

 

Then I can officially have heard everything.

 

 

Oh...

 

and there is something else that Taker has never done on top of bump and sell:

 

Draw.

 

So why is this stupid no talent piece of shit still getting pushed?

[Guest snowfan]

Yea thats why he is messing with Matt Hardy...

 

And I Psychically.... can tell you are about to say. He squashes Matt Hardy...

 

Well let me put it too you this way... Undertaker is at least being in the same ring as Matt Hardy.

 

HHH probably doesn't know where those Lower card rocker rooms even are...let alone stand in the same ring as People like The Hardys Tommy Dreamer Randy Orton.

 

Hell He wrestled Spike Dudley and Jeff Hardy and Slapped on a Sleeper. Thats acceptable?

 

Undertaker at least didn't use any circa 1987 finisher on his opponents because He is SUPERIOR to them and so they MUST tap to a Sleeperhold. At Least Undertaker gave them enough respects to Finish them off with his Finishers.  My point is here. At LEAST he with these people in the ring. HHH wouldn't dirty his hands with the undercardsmen unless he picks them as a Angle to prove what a GREAT Champion he is by belittling them into a Sleeperhold.

 

Now... lets go to this HORRIBLE SACRILAGE of him not bumping or selling....

 

Have you ever Seen the Undertaker....As Mean mark Callous or as the Master of Pain... Or the Punisher...Have you seen him...EVER SELL or BUMP?

And Suddenly he is suppose to Bump and sell more than he does.  Lets face the facts here. Mark didn't bump or sell well when he started. I wouldn't expect him to suddenly learn after all this time. That doesn't mean he doesn't sell...If he didn't sell he still do the Zombie sit ups. Now he sells...Sells like the Sandman yes but does sell. He bellows out In PAIN.. Aren't you happy he is in PAIN? aren't you?  Undertaker has been the Champion only 4 times vs Hogan vs Sid vs Rock vs Hogan again. he hasn't been Champion the number that people like the Rock, Austin, HHH have.  Taker had Dozen years now. IM Not here Demanding he get the World title like other people demand their favorites do. All Im doing is being the Opposition to your Desire to bash him.  I don't expect Undertaker to be winning the Title any time soon.  I don't know how long Taker has Left but Im Not gonna DEMAND hope or Pray to Speed him any Day shorter. I wouldn't do that to ANY wrestler.  Despite your hatred these guys are Hard workers and work their asses out there In the midst of Pain injury wear and tear that comes from wrestling. Im Not gonna Tell ANY wrestler to retire if Im not even gonna be brave enough to go in and take a Piledriver or run the ropes a couple of times.

 

stop fighting with me. Im not fighting with you.

Gee I guess I defend HGH according to your response.

 

I don't recall it.

 

The UT is a waste of space who refuses to fill the only role he has left. He COULD be giving guys a REAL rub and a sacrificial lamb to champions. He just "ain't feeling it."

 

I have never demanded anyone in particular get the title I have just demanded it NOT be on the two most undeserving "upper carders" ad infinitum. I can think of six or seven people who would make more intriguing champs than either HGH or UT and NEED the rub of both to be credible to the marks. Mark is a mark.

 

Nice play on the tried and true "don't criticize if you can't do better" ploy. I am not an NFL player that doesn't stop me from critiquing football. I don't buy that argument sorry.

 

The fact that UT doesn't sell, hasn't sold, and botches his current "selling" so badly it is comedy material is hardly reason to excuse his lack of getting others over like REAL stars do. Flair did it, Hart did it, and even Michaels could do it-who has UT put over?

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Brock isn't actively bad. He isn't fantastic - but that's not cause to bash someone into the ground.

 

Anglesault, there is a difference between not seeing and not wanting to see.

 

Can you name 6 rookies who should have gotten the push beyond Brock? Because the whole purpose of the push was for a Rookie to become champ - A monster who keeps on winning and winning and never gets the belt is... Well Goldberg. And as stated before, Brock is not like Goldberg.

 

Taker is getting pushed because of name value and fan support. Brock beats Taker and therefore is the more over is the theory behind the feud. Of course, the screwie elements such as the broken hand and the pregnancy are just plain stupid and just proof of Taker thinking he still has worth. Euck.

 

Let's call a spade a spade. Brock gets a push and RVD and Angle aren't. That bothers you guys. It doesn't bother me so much because I know Angle will get to the top sooner or later and well, I don't care much for RVD.

[Guest Anglesault]

Can you name 6 rookies who should have gotten the push beyond Brock? Because the whole purpose of the push was for a Rookie to become champ

Definition of rookie?

[Guest Anglesault]

I know Angle will get to the top sooner or later

 

Maybe.

[Guest Trivia247]

Gee I guess I defend HGH according to your response.

 

I don't recall it.

 

I said you backed me when I went on the tangants about HHH in previous posts I Didn't say you were defended him..

 

sigh...

 

Awaits more flaming.

[Guest snowfan]

I know Angle will get to the top sooner or later

 

Maybe.

Nah he will.

 

There is NO WAY the entire trinity can be held down forever. I think they will all look out for one another eventually. Crips is sealing his doom by holding down all three.

[Guest snowfan]

Gee I guess I defend HGH according to your response.

 

I don't recall it.

 

I said you backed me when I went on the tangants about HHH in previous posts I Didn't say you were defended him..

 

sigh...

 

Awaits more flaming.

We agree on Crips. I respect the fact that you are a Mark mark. Hey I am a Snow mark who will never see my favorite do one eighth what yours has.

 

This is hardly a flamefest.