Guest franchise632 Report post Posted October 17, 2002 For god sakes, heaven for bid someone be an individual in this game of robots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imajackoff? Report post Posted October 17, 2002 For god sakes, heaven for bid someone be an individual in this game of robots. Where does this seemingly common sentiment come from?? Every game I see one player or another is shaking their ass after they make a play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2002 Owens was right about what he said on the Tony Kornheiser radio show the other day.. "No matter what I do, people are gonna talk about it. Whether they see me on the sidelines angry for whatever reason, or doing some TD celebration, people are still gonna talk about it." (or something to that effect) This incident proves that to be true. Edited to fix part of the post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LaParkaMarka Report post Posted October 17, 2002 This rocks....I'm glad to see that everyone here isn't a rabid anti-Terrell Owens weirdo. The guy did absolutely nothing wrong. I mean, if he reached into his sock and pulled out an American Flag and waved it around, I doubt people would have had a problem. Unless they thought he was making fun of the flag somehow. It shocks me that people give a shit about a td celebration, and ignore the many players that get arrested for DUI or whatnot. Isn't that somewhat worse? Why isn't there rampant news coverage on that? Oh, right, it's because Terrell is actually a good player and thus needs to be run through the mud for whatever reason. Ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted October 17, 2002 Did anyone see Sean Salisbury on Sportscenter last night, talking to Terrell Owens. He was trying to sound and look disgusted, et al. What a joke! Dude, Sean, it's not that big a deal, and if you're honest with yourself, the only reason you act all disgusted is because that's the popular thing to do in the media with this "incident." Since Salisbury actually played in the NFL for some time, you have to respect his opinion. In fact the one question he asked that Owens didnt answer was plain and simple: "Was this about YOU, or about the team?". Salisbury was taught to respect the people you played with and competed against. That's not a bad thing. If you call what Sean Salisbury did playing than go ahead and respect his opinion, but I don't. Anytime someone celebrates, they're celebrating an individual accomplishment, but more times than not it's helping the team has well. As for respecting your opponents, why should an opponent be resepcted if they don't to their jobs well enough.Whether the defense gives up a 40 yard TD run, or the QB throws an Int that gets returned for a TD. Your team failed, so instead of pointing fingers at Terrell Owens or whoever, point fingers at your own team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted October 17, 2002 Where does this seemingly common sentiment come from?? The fact that the NFL has clamped down on "excessive" celebrations. The fact that the No Fun League has people in the stands with binoculars, ready to levy fines against players who have towels hanging down more than six inches from their waistbands, or have their shoes taped wrong, etc. Celebrations add some individuality and pizazz to the game. As I said before, if you don't want someone to celebrate, you should stop them from scoring, but I refuse to feel sorry for a millionaire who got upset because someone danced in front of him. What I think IS silly is the dancing and aping after routine tackles. Get in the end zone or make a really important stop on defense, and then you can dance around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted October 17, 2002 Would have been funnier if someone would have poped him while he was signing. I guess it was funny though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Hijo Del Lunatic Report post Posted October 17, 2002 Since it's time to close the thread, I'll chime in with my thoughts. All he does is sign a football, give it to a friend, and then everybody starts whining about it as if he were actually taunting. Give me a fucking break all he did was sign a damn football and give it to a friend, where is the harm in that? The reason Owens gave that ball to his financial advisor was because it's also Springs' financial advisor, as if to say, "Here, keep this ball as a reminder of how much of a fool I made out of your other client." That's not right in the least bit. In my mind, since Shawn Springs had no problem with it, and TO told the guy he was going to give him an autographed football, I see no problem. Springs was the guy who got burned on the play and he had no problem with it. I think it has to bother him, at least a little bit. As a corner, you're supposed to let things like that slide off your back - "having a short memory", so to speak. But how can he have a short memory about this, now that it's Thursday and things haven't settled down? It might not have bothered him as much in the beginning - though I doubt it - but I bet now it's killing him becuse it's inescapable. I think what he said to the media on Monday after the game was diplomacy in the hopes of burying the issue, and now, I'm sure he's going to let the rest of his defense do the talking for him, so it doesn't seem like he's a sore loser. But I guarantee he's pissed off about it. I would be. I loved the star incident and I loved this. To me, though, they're TOTALLY different things. When Owens did his stunt at Dallas, I thought it was funny. I think it has to do with football being a team sport. When Owens did his thing on the 50-yard line, I didn't have a problem with it, because he was expressing himself individually at the expense of the entire Dallas Cowboys organization. The only thing this stunt does is make Shawn Springs feel like a first-class asshole. It's one thing to want to single yourself out and be an individual, but it's completely another to do it at the expense of a guy who really doesn't want that individual attention, especially the kind of negative attention this stunt brings. As for the star thing, being a Dallas fan, I wasnt happy, the first time, but hey, the second time was too much, but Teague did what he should of done. And that was that. If Deion did that twice in Wash or Green Bay, Im sure that Greene or Butler would have laid him out too. If Deion did that in Washintgon, I would personally run him down with a car. I FUCKING HATE DEION. Did anyone see Sean Salisbury on Sportscenter last night, talking to Terrell Owens. He was trying to sound and look disgusted, et al. What a joke! Dude, Sean, it's not that big a deal, and if you're honest with yourself, the only reason you act all disgusted is because that's the popular thing to do in the media with this "incident." Sean Salisbury's head nearly exploded on the Dan Patrick Show Tuesday afternoon. I thought he was going to go after Patrick and Dibble (THERE'S a good idea, go after the Nasty Boy). I think he overreacted, very much so. But he's entitled to his opinion. And you know what? Salisbury's the kind of guy who likes things like the Dirty Bird and the Bob 'n' Weave and stuff. So maybe it's a bigger deal than some people are making it out to be, instead of the other way around. Like I said earlier if Seattle's defense would of done their jobs Owens couldn't of done this. Actually, Springs had pretty good coverage on Owens for the TD pass - the ball was underthrown just enough to make a jump-ball situation, and Owens is about 3 to 3 1/2 inches taller. Springs did everything he could there, and that's why it sucks for him to have Owens act like an ass. "Hey, I'm better than you, Shawn!" No, you're TALLER. It shocks me that people give a shit about a td celebration, and ignore the many players that get arrested for DUI or whatnot. Isn't that somewhat worse? Why isn't there rampant news coverage on that? Oh, right, it's because Terrell is actually a good player and thus needs to be run through the mud for whatever reason. Ugh. Whoa, don't get all Phil Mushnick on us. Comparing this to a DUI is like apples and oranges. First off, when someone DOES get arrested for drunken driving, or, say, dragging a meter maid down the street, the media is ALL over it. Secondly, this is disrecting the game, and not disrespecting society. This isn't like Randy Moss' exploits of a couple weeks ago, this is the same thing as Randy Moss saying he only plays when he feels like it. And for that, he probably should be drilled. LUNATIC - Pimpin' ho's and clockin' a grip like my name was Dolemite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LaParkaMarka Report post Posted October 18, 2002 Whoa, don't get all Phil Mushnick on us. Comparing this to a DUI is like apples and oranges. First off, when someone DOES get arrested for drunken driving, or, say, dragging a meter maid down the street, the media is ALL over it. The media was definately all over Randy Moss. But what about, say, Sebastian Janikowski? Click on the link...it goes over all the stuff he's done. Or what about Lew Bush and Willie Roaf? They all have done worse things than a lame td celebration, and I don't think the media has been "all over it". I found both of those off a two second google news search. I would venture to say that there are more cases like this that happen all the time. So Terrell Owens is cocky. Big deal. At least he isn't putting people's *lives* in danger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted October 18, 2002 What I think IS silly is the dancing and aping after routine tackles. Get in the end zone or make a really important stop on defense, and then you can dance around. Coming from someone who plays football (today actually) getting a routine tackle can be a big deal. Since I play ROLB, I get many tackles in games, and while I don't celebrate or dance (that's a big no-no in high school) I do tend to look down at the RB or FB with a: "Now, what bitch!" look on my face. If could celebrate I would, but I can't... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted October 18, 2002 Coming from someone who plays football (today actually) getting a routine tackle can be a big deal. Well, by definition, something that's routine can never be a big deal. Really, I just don't see the point. Wow, you stopped the running back after he gained six yards. Obviously, you must RUN RUN RUN toward the nearest TV camera and act like a jackass for at least three seconds. I don't mind celebrations on big sacks, or goal-line stands, or critical interceptions/pass deflections. But on a routine tackle? Come on. That's just people aping for television, and it's stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted October 18, 2002 Oh, this is silly. Owens and Springs are friends, this guy works for both of them. Owens has demonstrated on many occasions that he has the mind of a 12 year old, he was just playing around. And if you're scoring for creativity, you can't deny that took a lot of thought. However.... I think it would have been funny as hell if he got drilled, and the pen broke and got jammed in his ankle. There is no denying that would be very, very, funny. PS - Hey Tom, the binocular guys got Owens for not tucking in his jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 18, 2002 If Terrell Owens spikes the ball on the big ghey G in Lambeau, I'm going to send him a fan letter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted October 18, 2002 being a seahawks fan, i wasn't happy by it, but it is still funny what happened though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted October 18, 2002 PS - Hey Tom, the binocular guys got Owens for not tucking in his jersey. I know, and that's ridiculous. Equally ridiculous are Owens' apparent claims that the league is trying to clamp down on the creativty and expressiveness of its Black players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I can understand celebrating after making a BIG tackle. Celebrating after every damn play sickens me though. When are the offensive linemen going to start celebrating after they seal someone off with a block? I would love to see that. Imagine one of them doing a cartwheel in midfield after pancaking someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites