SmarkBoard Greatest Wrestler of All Time.....

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

First off, YES I am stealing this idea from the Death Valley Driver board, so I best not be accused down the road.

 

I'm interested to see who this board would put up there as the best of all time, mainly because it doesn't seem as puro-heavy as the DVD board, as well as a little lighter on the more "old-school" stuff.

 

The idea is pretty basic: For one week, everybody gets to pimp out their 20 picks for best wrestler of all time, then, at the end of the week those pimping lists will be combined to form one gigantic voting list. The benefit of this is that it allows you to vote for guys whom you didn't think of when you made your top twenty. When the final list is compiled, everybody picks their top 10 wrestlers of all time, complete with reasons etc. That list is tabulated and a top 10 of all time is decided.

 

If anybody can think of things that could benefit this process, don't hesitate to tell me.

[Guest Tim Cooke]

This should be some fun!

 

My list of nominees:

 

Ric Flair

Barry Windham

Midnight Express (Bobby, Dennis, Stan, Corny)

Fantastics (Tommy Rogers, Bobby Fulton)

Rock n Roll Express

Dyanmite Kid

Jumbo Tsuruta

Toshiaki Kawada

Mitsuharu Misawa

Akira Taue

Kenta Kobashi

Akira Hokuto

Minami Toyota

Aja Kong

Jaguar Yokota

Bull Nakano

Destroyer

Nobuhiko Takada

Kazuo Yamazaki

Volk Han

Kiyoshi Tamura

Ricky Choshu

Akira Maeda

 

Tim

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Well, I WAS trying to limit the list to 20 guys, but fuck it......i'll start thinking of my list....

[Guest wolverine]

What is with this thing about just "guys"? I've seen a lot of wrestlers in my day, and Akira Hokuto - a woman - was better than just about everyone I've seen, save for perhaps Kawada and Jumbo.

[Guest Special K]

I'll split them stateside and Puro

 

Stateside/gaijin

 

Flair

Steamboat

Funk

Miachaels

Angle

Benoit

Bret Hart

Vader

Williams

Hansen

 

Puro

Misawa

Kawada

Kobashi

Jumbo Tsuruta

Genichiro Tenryu

Ohtani

Liger

Satoro Sayama

Hashimoto

Taue

 

Obviously I haven't seen enough old school of either

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Uh, why did you get the idea that it's all about guys? In case you're blind (which you must be), note that El Dandy picked women on his list, and I'm sure others will do the same.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

I'll have none on my list, I don't know of any who are that great.

 

 

Ric Flair

Lou Thesz

Toshiaki Kawada

Dynamite Kid

Ricky Steamboat

Bret Hart

Owen Hart

Kurt Angle

Chris Benoit

Mitsuharu Misawa

Jushin Liger

Great Sasuke

Terry Funk

TAKA Michinoku

Shawn Micheals

George Hackenschmitd(sp?)

Eduardo Carpantier

Kenta Kobashi

Tiger Mask

Genichiro Tenryu

[Guest wolverine]

Uh, why did you get the idea that it's all about guys? In case you're blind (which you must be), note that El Dandy picked women on his list, and I'm sure others will do the same.

 

Considering El Dandy isn't in this thread, that really says something about "blindness," now doesn't it?

[Guest TheHulkster]

Terry Funk

Bruiser Brody

Stan Hansen

Jumbo Tsuruta

Kenta Kobashi

Jushin Liger

Chris Benoit

Ric Flair

Bret Hart

Shawn Michaels

Harley Race

Toshiaki Kawada

Mitsuharu Misawa

Ultimo Dragon

Vader

Eddie Guerrero

Shinjiro Ohtani

Dyanmite Kid

Nick Bockwinkle

Ricky Steamboat

 

I don't know how this is going to turn out since a lot of people on here aren't too familiar with Japanese Wrestling or the older stuff. Hopefully we don't end up seeing RVD or Raven ahead of Jumbo Tsuruta and Harley Race or something like that. It's worth a shot though.

[Guest wolverine]

My list is as follows:

 

1. Toshiaki Kawada

2. Jumbo Tsuruta

3. Akira Hokuto

4. Jushin Liger

5. Mitsuharu Misawa

6. Aja Kong

7. Kenta Kobashi

8. Ric Flair

9. Chris Benoit

10. Shinjiro Ohtani

11. Kiyoshi Tamura

12. Eddy Guerrero

13. Nobuhiko Takada

14. Dynamite Kid

15. Vader

16. Bull Nakano

17. Stan Hansen

18. Ultimo Dragon

19. Kazuo Yamazaki

20. Mariko Yoshida

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

Ok, I'm not much into Puro and such, so you get a good old American Hoss centered top 20:

 

Ric Flair

Ricky Steamboat

Randy Savage

Bret Hart

Ted Dibiase

Tito Santana

Barry Windham

Curt Hennig

Lou Thesz

Kurt Angle

Chris Benoit

Dynamite Kid

Harley Race

Terry Funk

Arn Anderson

Tully Blanchard

Bobby Eaton

Stan Lane

Sting

Vader

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

My bad, I meant Tim Cooke. Either way, he had women listed and you, for some unknown reason, bitched about how it was just about guys.

[EL DANDY~! 0]

Curry Man, I'm flattered that you think I'm Tim Cooke, but that's the wrong last name...and second, no doubt in my mind that Akira Hokuto is on my list. She fucking rules it. No doubt.

[Guest wolverine]

My bad, I meant Tim Cooke. Either way, he had women listed and you, for some unknown reason, bitched about how it was just about guys.

Your repeated use of the word "guys" as opposed to "wrestlers" indicated it was going to be a male-exclusive list, regardless of who Tim listed.

 

Perhaps you could write something constructive next time, instead of making a buffoon out of yourself with your dumbass "blind" insult.

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Oh yes, quite the buffoon I was, what with everybody calling me and out and mocking me. I must learn better.

 

Hey, the point is that the list is for anybody, male or female.

[Guest godthedog]

question:

 

if the purpose for our lists now is just to get nominees for a master voting list, why does everybody keep listing the same wrestlers (kawada, flair, etc)? lord didn't mention that a wrestler needed a certain number of nominations to make the list, so just one mention of a wrestler assures his place on the list of nominees.

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

god- Eh, I dunno, it's just a basic "pimping" stage where everybody picks their own guys. It's more of an individuality thing then anything. Though, having read what you said, it would make sense for guys to have a certain amount of required votes to make the master list. That's a good idea, actually.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

20: Toshiaki Kawada

19: Sweet Stan Lane

18: Beautiful Bobby Eaton

17: Lou Thesz

16: Mitsuharu Misawa

15: Tiger Mask I/Satrou Sayama

14: Eddy Guerrero/Black Tiger II

13: "Stunning/Stone Cold" Steve Austin

12: Hulk Hogan

11: "Macho Man" Randy Savage

10: Ultimo Dragon

9: Kurt Angle

8: "Canadian Crippler" Chris Benoit

7: "Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels

6: Bret "The Hitman" Hart

5: "Enforcer" Arn Anderson

4: Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat

3: "The Rocket" Owen Hart

2: Dynamite Kid

1: "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

In no particular order at the moment:

 

Flair

Benoit

Bret Hart

Misawa

Kawada

Jumbo

Hokuto

Vader

Kobashi

Michaels

Owen Hart

Liger

Eddy Guerrero

Dynamite Kid

Austin

Foley

Steamboat

Harley Race

Rey Jr.

Ultimo Dragon

[Guest Tim Cooke]

My list-

 

Not the best, but my favorites

 

1 Toshiaki Kawada

2 Akira Hokuto

3 Mitsuharu Misawa

4 Jumbo Tsuruta

5 Aja Kong

6 Jaguar Yokota

7 Volk Han

8 Nobuhiko Takada

9 Vader

10 Kenta Kobashi

11 Jushin Liger

12 Chris Benoit

13 Juventud Guerrera

14 Stan Hansen

15 Ric Flair

16 Harley Race

17 Destroyer

18 Kiyoshi Tamura

19 Eddy Guerrero

20 Tie Tommy Rogers and Bobby Eaton

 

Tim

[Guest BAR]

20 off of the top of my head, not in order...

 

Dynamite Kid

Bret Hart

Owen Hart

Ric Flair

Toshiaka Kawada

Jushin Lyger

Mitsuharu Misawa

Shawn Michaels

Cactus Jack

Chris Benoit

Eddie Guerrero

Tiger Mask Sayama

Ultimo Dragon

The Great Sasuke

Curt Hennig

Rey Mysterio Jr

Jerry Lynn

Ricky Steamboat

Steve Austin

Terry Funk

Oh yeah, put Mikey in there as one of my favourite's.

[Guest godthedog]

god- Eh, I dunno, it's just a basic "pimping" stage where everybody picks their own guys. It's more of an individuality thing then anything. Though, having read what you said, it would make sense for guys to have a certain amount of required votes to make the master list. That's a good idea, actually.

wolverine may not be happy with that, but it works for me.

 

my choices on the fly, in no order:

 

bret hart

ricky steamboat

ric flair

steve austin

shawn michaels

toshiaki kawada

kenta kobashi

chris benoit

kurt angle

dean malenko

mick foley

great sasuke

eddie guerrero

stan hansen

owen hart

triple h

chris kanyon

sting

brian pillman

jushin liger

[Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair]

In No perticular order beside Flair being number one.

 

Ric Flair

Dyanmite Kid

Eddie Guerrero

Bret Hart

Kurt Angle

Owen Hart

Chris Beniot

Jushin Lyger

Mitsuharu Misawa

Kenta Kobashi

Ultimo Dragon

Christopher Daniels

Jerry Lynn

Shawn Michaels

Davey Boy

Rey jr

Toshiaka Kawada

Mr Perfect

Ricky Steamboat

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

My List

 

1. Chris Benoit

2. Ric Flair

3. Kurt Angle

4. Eddy Guerrero

5. Rey Mysterio Jr.

6. Stan Hansen

7. Steve Austin

8. Mick Foley

9. Jushin "Thunder" Lyger

10. Toshiaki Kawada

11. Kenta Kobashi

12. Terry Funk

13. Vader

14. Shawn Michaels

15. Bret Hart

16. Mitsuharu Misawa

17. Dean Malenko

18. Owen Hart

19. Ultimo Dragon

20. Ricky Steamboat

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Tim Cooke- This list is designed for who you think is the BEST, not favorites and you've posted two lists. Which one are you going on? I'm assuming the first one, because the second was composed of your "favorites".

[Guest Tim Cooke]

The first was a pimping list. You see, the concept you stole couldn't even be executed properly by you. So I decided in the first post to start a list that people could add on to get a fairly long list of candidates. That never happened.

 

Secondly, if this list is really "The Best", then 99% of the crackpots voting shouldn't count.

 

Tim

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

Well, it's an opinion list. Who you think should be voted the best of all time. You'll need to be able to back up your vote down the road, so I see no problem with some of the "crackpots" around here and their voting. So far the votes haven't been that bad, except for a couple glaring omissions (i think i saw HHH)......vote for who you want, just be prepared to back it up.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

I am fairly certain that Ric Flair will win, as he wins every "Best ever" list doesn't he?

 

Anyway, here (in no order) is my two penneth...

 

Ric Flair

Dyanmite Kid

Jumbo Tsuruta

Toshiaki Kawada

Mitsuharu Misawa

Kenta Kobashi

Nobuhiko Takada

Vader

Chris Benoit

Bret Hart

Eddy Guerrero

Jushin Liger

Shinjiro Ohtani

Ricky Steamboat

Steve Austin

Dean Malenko

El Samurai

Rey Misterio Jr.

Stan Hansen

Tiger Mask I

[Guest Special K]

Time to compile the list?

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

These are, to me, the best wrestlers of all-time, as they are among my favorites (and if your favorites aren't who you'd consider to be some of the best, then you have an odd taste in favorites). Seeing as how I have viewed very little puro (not even "pure" puro at that, as the only Japan-based promotions I've seen have been Big Japan and FMW), no puro workers will be on the list (outside of ONE person from FMW, who I feel rightfully deserves to be on this list, albeit maybe not in the top 20).

 

Ric Flair

Chris Benoit

Shawn Michaels

Bret Hart

Rey Misterio Jr.

Eddy Guerrero

Hayabusa

Kurt Angle

Owen Hart

Jake Roberts

Terry Funk

Dory Funk Jr.

Sting

Vader

Mikey Whipwreck

Christopher Daniels

 

See? Couldn't even make 20 with my lack of puro exposure.