Lesnar not the only person rumored to do

[Guest Dangerous A]

From the Observer.

 

 

A UK tabloid report, followed up by the other British media outlets claiming the match was signed and listed as a 7.5 million price tag for Lewis. It claimed it would take place on the No Way Out ppv on 2/23 in Montreal. Those reports were incorrect and incredibly premature. But it is true that such a match has been the subject of internal discussion and two meetings Vince McMahon and Lewis' people. What hasn't been reported elsewhere is that if the Lesnar-Lewis match takes place, the plan is to have a second WWE vs boxer match on the same show matching KURT ANGLE WITH FORMER HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION MICHEAL MOORER.

 

 

I am not so sure it would be the right move to have the 2 guys you want ME'ing Mania in the ring in a shoot with guys who can deliver the so called "one hitter quitter". If one or both lose, it will be a tremendous embarassment for the loser. However if both were to win, it would make both men BIG TIME mainstream stars.

 

Thoughts? Comments?

[Guest razazteca]

this brings up the subject of why Vince fears UFC & Pride again

 

so do these UK tabloids have stories like President Bush was visited by aliens or Batboy is missing?

[Guest BionicRedneck]

no. They arent those type of stuff.

 

These papers basically take a small element of truth and then add they own bullshit to it.

[Guest Ram]

I don't think they would shoot. It'd be a worked shoot, if anything.

 

Unfortunately, Brock would probably fight Lennox for 20 minutes and finally KO him. Angle would lose in 2 minutes after one punch. (I'm assuming it's worked and preplanned).

 

And I really see that coming.

[Guest razazteca]

Boxer vs Wrestler really does nothing for me.

 

I would rather see some shoot/MMA guys come over and destroy the ME. Or have some guys destroy the Natual Born Thrillers Version 2; people like Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Don Frye, Sakaruba, Ortiz could shoot all over JRs Hosses and Studs.

[Guest Anglesault]

Oh good lord.

[Guest Last Warrior]

Michael Moorer. Even if kurt angle went in there and made him tap within a minute he wouldnt be a mainstream star.

 

However i do like the direction they seem to be going with. If they build up Angle and Lesnar as two serious fighters and not just wrestlers and then have them two face off in the wrestlemania main vent it would draw well and be very interesting viewing.

 

it is like what scott keith said a little while ago. If they start trying to do a more 'real' style of wrestling it could be really good. Also, it is the only way I can see guys like Benoit, Angle, guerrero etc being accepted as genuine main eventers ebcasue they are great on the mat.

 

I would like to see this. what does everyone else think?

[Guest razazteca]

but the general reaction to Michael Moorer would be who is he.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

A: I think this idea is retarded in the first place...

 

B: Angle would break Moorer in seconds.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Moorer got KOed by friggin' George Foreman, remember?

 

Why not just do a Kurt Angle v. Mike Tyson match, work it, and let Kurt make Mike tap?

[Guest razazteca]

Angle vs any Gracie would be good but again how would it be pushed.

[Guest Brian]

No it wouldn't. Angle would get his ass handed to him. Unless Angle trains hardcore with like Sakuraba, he's going to look bad. difference between boxers and Gracie's are the Gracie's can knock guys out on their backs and wrestle.

[Guest razazteca]

what about Frank Shamrock vs Kurt Angle in a work shoot.

 

its the best of all worlds, Vince can mock Ken, and do the Sports Entertainment is the greatest show on earth spiel.

[Guest Brian]

Frank's too good of a fighter. He might be able to beat Ken (and probably can), but I would seriously doubt he could beat Frank.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

Why not do Angle /Lesnar in a shoot fight? It might fuck up storylines, but hey, this is WWE, storylines schmorylines!

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Meh, I wouldn't really look forward to a Lesnar vs. Lewis match, or an Angle vs. Moorer match either. Just for the record, I really hope this doesn't happen.

[Guest midnight_burn]

They should bring back BUTTERBEAN~! while they're at it.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Has anyone forgotton what happened the last time the WWF tried to dable in shoots? Unless they work all these fights, it's disaster waiting to happen.

 

As for mixing UFC/Pride, there's no reason Vince would want to. Even in it's current state, boxing is still much better for mainstream exposure than MMA. Plus, I doubt Angle nor Lesnar find much success in shoots, considering their current conditions.

[Guest KingOfOldSchool]

I wouldn't be so opposed to one or more MMA-type guys coming over again, along with corresponding work-shoot matches with wrestlers (done right, of course).

 

But I hate the boxing idea, if there's a chance of it happening. Though I probably would pay some good money to see Triple H get knocked out.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Why? So can have another Ken Shamrock, or better, Dan Sevren? Wonderull.

 

The Mike Tyson thing at least helped draw interest in the WWF, and Wrestlemania, in particular. That's what they should be aiming for if they're going to do something like this, and NO SHOOTS.

[Guest Redhawk]

For all non-boxing fans, here's a short bio on Michael Moorer:

 

Moorer started his career as a light heavyweight (175 pounds), and is still thought of as one of the more lethal light heavys to come around in the last 15 years.

 

But since heavyweight is where the money is, Moorer jumped up. And while he did lose some of his power fighting against bigger guys, he did win the heavyweight championship of the world, beating Evander Holyfield in a less-than-thriiling fight.

 

I think Moorer may have defended the belt once before losing it to a 45-year-old George Foreman.

 

Moorer kind of faded into Bolivian (to quote Mike Tyson) for awhile, getting KO'd in 8 rounds by Holyfield somehwere along the way.

 

In Moorer's last fight, which was supposed to determine if he'd get back in the title picture, he was knocked out in...wait for it...THIRTY SECONDS by David Tua.

 

I just hope Kurt Angle doesn't totally embarass the poor guy.

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[Guest Vitamin X]

Bart Gunn vs. Butterbean...THE REMATCH~!

[Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair]

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Lewis Vs Lesnar although Lesnar would whipe the floor with Lewis.

[Guest NoCalMike]

The main problem is that there is too much of a downside from losing which outweighs the upside of winning. If Brock Lesnar beats Lennox Lewis in a "shoot" fight, then I am sure people would care for about a month or so before they forget it ever happened. However even if Brock dominated Lennox for 90% of the match, if Lennox connected with a KO shot in the last seconds and won, Brock's career could be over or just never the same. Vince is taking a big chance. Personally as a wrestling fan, I can care less if they can beat people up in a real fight or not. I watch wrestling for the art of the "worked match" because I like the skill and "ballet" of it all. Of course I would watch it out of curiosity, but what does Brock beating Lennox Lewis have anything to do with his career as a "worked" wrestler?

[Guest Brian]

It gives him a legitimacy that will probably stay with him for a few years as he's in the spotlight. He'll get a ton of mainstream respect and response if it's not worked. It's mainly about the legitimacy, which will lend itself to Angle/Brock at Mania.

[Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair]

If they held this at a WWE PPV most people would think that it was a worked match not a shoot fight.

[Guest TheHulkster]

There is a lot of upside is Lesnar wins, but all I can think of is Yuji Nagata Vs Mirko Cro Cop where one of NJPW's biggest stars got his ass handed to him in 21 seconds. It didn't exactly do wonders for Nagata or help business a whole lot and fans were stuck with shitty wrestler Tadao Yasuda as champ because he was tolerable at MMA. I can see Angle taking Moorer though. It would probably do wonders for Angle and give WWE a good option when Brock loses to Lewis. I say it's worth a shot at least. Vince is a hell of a promoter, so it would probably pop a really good buyrate and sell out an arena on curiousity. If they follow up with a great undercard, it could turn around business.

[Guest Brian]

But Cro Cop is far more rounded as a fighter than Lewis. Nagata was a silver medalist, but Lewis only has a striking game. Of course, it could end up horribly defensive but I suspect that Lewis won't be able to defense a shoot or hit from the ground, which is par for most boxers (even the best).

[Guest TheHulkster]

Granted, but judging by the rules they want to use, if Brock doesn't make Lewis tap out after the first takedown, Lewis will probably murder him when they both have to stand up. Lewis is the man right now in Boxing and has pretty much dominated everyone put in his way (now if the guy would fight Vladmir Klitschko...). Lesnar trading strikes with Lewis = 1st round KO for Lesnar.