The Liontamer

[Guest Brian]

With the traveling and bumping? Factor in that they close up those gyms for the WWE wrestlers, and how much business they lose in doing so (the gyms), and where does a guy find the time and energy. Don't think of it in terms of matches, thing about the commitment. Four hours at the arena at least. Post-production meetings. Travel. Sleep.

 

And what about the acne and receding hairline?

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Yes, I forgot to mention that Angle's hairline was noticeably receeding before he had his head shaved. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned until now.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

However, couldn't you already see that Angle had a receding hairline at like WM2000? When he was at his "cruiser" weight?

 

I've also noticed that Benoit has lost some hair since KOTR 2001. Benoit is pretty freaking built, but I doubt he's on the 'roids these days. I don't seem him going out there and tearing his quads or all mummified in tape and pads.

 

BTW, it's very funny seeing that bald spot in the middle of Trips' hair growing larger every week.

[Guest Brian]

And the other thing is there's a huge difference between cycling on steroids, abusing them, and using them at a minimium. I've known people at the gym who've done the minimium, and haven't had any major muscle gains directly because of it but it's allowed them to work through the pain and put in a lot more effort than normal, and when they water up enough (1-2 gallons a day) they can pass a test within weeks. In fact, I know a former pro-player (Stafford Mays), who now works at Microsoft, but used to do short interval cycles during the start of the off-season.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

As for acne, did you guys see the amount of zits on Eddie Guerrero's back on Thursday? It was the most noticeable when he was entering Benoit's dressing room.

 

He, like Angle, has had a very significant muscle increase since 2000.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

I don't think Benoit does them anymore.

Hmm...HHH is out for 8 months and comes back 10x bigger.

Benoit is out for 12 months and comes back smaller.....

Wonder who used roids in there off-time?

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Uummm....... Kurt Angle had a receding hairline since back in the day.....Check out Royal Rumble 2000 against Tazz and tell me he's not already receding. If a guy gets bigger it doesnt always mean hes on roids. Look at Steven Richards.....you might not think he's that big, but compared to his Stevie days in ECW he's about 5x bigger and more muscular. The guy was pueny as hell back in the day. Eddie Guerrero has been just about that big since his last run in WCW. I remember when he came back from injury and i was like "holy Shit he looks huge"

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Here's a crazy thought...Benoit is what, mid to late thirties? Did you ever notice that a lot of guys start to lose hair at that age, regardless of what they do or take?

 

I'm not saying he hasnt taken roids, but seriously, you need better evidence than hair loss.

[Guest The Flying Dutchman]

Oh, I don't think it's a secret that Benoit's taken steroids. I think he's even admitted to it. As for Angle, a good work out (from what I hear) usually consists of 1 hour of lifting the appropraite amount of weights for your strength every other day. It's generally a bad idea to lift two days in a row, because when you exercise what you are actually doing is breaking down your muscles...and they grow back stronger. So if you lift several days in a row, you're not actually doing yourself any good. The routine that my dad and I do is lift one day and run for 20 to 30 mins the next day and alternate. Now, I haven' tdone that lately (though I am getting back on track), but when I did, I definitely showed a lot of improvement. So *if* (and it's admittedly a sizeable if) Angle does that sort of routine, then he prolly has more time than you think.

 

If you really want to go in depth, check out Lance Storm's website. He has A LOT of information about his workout routine and he has to go through everything that any other WWE wrestler does.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Eddy's roiding is blatantly obvious because of how much his arms have grown relative to the rest of his body. He's not doing HHH-style "all over" roids but he's pumped the needle into his arms plenty of times. His back acne is also there too.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

You know, the weird thing is that if you do a lot of physical activity that involves sweating, if you are not keeping your hygiene in check like you should be, zits can show up all over, including areas like the back.

 

At least that's what I've seen. But yeah, Eddy has zits broken out all over his back. Is he juicing? Maybe. Is it affecting his in-ring work to the point where he's a slug who's dangering the other wrestlers? No.

[Guest SP-1]

When you factor in Benoits age, and the fact that all of these guys are in a profession where blood and sweat are almost an everyday thing, pimples becomes a much less important factor in trying to figure out who is on 'roids.

 

Triple H is the prime candidate for me main because of his sheer size. The man is F'ing huge. Eddy surprised me when he returned and was huge, too. That honestly had me wondering if he had gotten in the business of 'roids.

 

Personally, I think that Angle is just a fairly athletic guy. When he came in he was very lean. When he started moving up to the ME, he decided to start bulking up the honest way.

 

But it's all ultimately opinion, really. That's just how I feel about it.

 

-SP

[Guest The Flying Dutchman]

Eddy's roiding is blatantly obvious because of how much his arms have grown relative to the rest of his body. He's not doing HHH-style "all over" roids but he's pumped the needle into his arms plenty of times.

 

If muscle gain were relative to where you put the needle, then most 'roid freaks would have swelled up asses, not arms.

[Guest Choken One]

HHH was already in great shape before he roided up during his first injury stint, so his Massive gain shouldne't been needed...since he was out 3 months...he really could have gained naturally but he was being primed already. He is the most clear cut roid user ever after Steiner. Hogan was actually a shock seeing even in his young days he was very huge.

 

Beniot is cleary a past user. Likely 1996 era. He was a twig and suddenly was wider then McMicheal during the brief 4H run. I'm betting he dropped roids shortly into his 2000 run.

 

Angle has unquestionably beefed up but I'm betting the Hair line is genetic and the Acne happens to alot of people not using roids...I used roids for a year and I never worry about lost hair since it was genetic anyways...which is why I shaved it. Angle is truthful here.

 

Eddy is clear user because he and chavo were the same size once and now Eddy's arms are big enough to hug H3's ego.

 

 

Here is a guy I bet uses...Bret Hart...Look at the mid 80's and then look at the final days of his carerer....a drastic change.

[Guest Pop Culture God]

This is like taking Presidents who we love and searching for sex scandels involving them. I admire Angle and Benoit. I don't care if they used steriods or not.

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LIsten.........Eddies arms arent the only big thing on him......From what i see his chest are shoulders are quite muscular too. It's hard in wrestling to dtermine who's on roids' cause acne on the back and pimples is normal for someone who sweats a lot, and the hair loss can be genetic. But, when its drastic and sudden like HHH's hair loss then its pretty suspicious. Benoit's been losing his hair steadily for a few years now. Angle's hair was also happening over time. HHH has a full thick head of hair and comes back and all of a sudden the guys hair is super thin and he's balding on the top. Very different from the other guys.

[Guest Army Eye]

You know, the weird thing is that if you do a lot of physical activity that involves sweating, if you are not keeping your hygiene in check like you should be, zits can show up all over, including areas like the back.

Exactly. Any job where you are constantly rolling around on a dirty, sweaty mat, rolling around with other sweaty wrestlers, and working out a lot on sweaty equipment, back acne is a perfectly normal thing to happen. I will not acknowledge back acne as proof of steroid use.

 

Hair loss, too, is a very questionable criterion. Men go bald, that's just the way it is. I'm not saying I doubt Angle and Benoit use steroids. But it's still a flimsy way to look for steroid use.

 

HHH I will grant you, because he RAPIDLY went from having the thickest, most lustrous mane in the fed, to a thin, stringy mop. The interesting thing is that his 'new' hair was much better for his more badass 'The Game' character. Take a look at the 'DX' or Blueblood HHH. Can you imagine his '99-'02 character with that girly hair? Maybe it was steroid-induced hair loss combined with him ceasing to use conditioner. (Nash must've been awful disappointed in his hair-care protege)

 

Really, the only way we outsiders can tell with any degree of accuracy is just a substantial, unnatural gain in weight. HHH? Very likely. Scott Steiner? Oh hell yes. Benoit? He's a good deal bigger than he was in his Japan days. Eddy I consider just a 'suspect' but there's no question he's gotten a lot bigger over the years, and he is just ridiculously cut. And of course we know Hogan used to. Man, he was so amazingly huge in the 80s.

 

There are a lot of other guys who juice to a lesser extent and we probably won't ever know. Benoit is kind of in that category. He has the sense not to blow himself up like a Scott Steiner. Meltzer has stated as a fact that Benoit juiced for many years though (I don't know if he currently does). There are undoubtedly a lot of wrestlers who are juicing who are doing it sensibly, just to be able to work out more, and/or just because they're not naturally very big.

[Guest ISportsFan]

Benoit is a lot more muscular and now he's starting to RAPIDLY lose his hair. I'd say it's a safe bet he's used steroids.

 

Angle hasn't though. He's always been quite muscular and you have to be in great shape to get into the Olympics. He's been doing push-ups since he was a fetus for Christsakes.

Angle has increased BIGTIME since starting in WWE. Not accusing, just saying.

 

But, for both of these guys, I don't care about the 'roid use because they're still producing ****+ matches every stinking week.

 

I care about the long-term health for both of them, but as far as their career goes - I have no problems. Don't take that the wrong way; I do care about both of their health situations, and that's why I hope they aren't doing the steroids. But, as far as a being a "wrestling fan," it's not excessively bad.

 

Jason

[Guest AndrewTS]

Blatant honesty: I could care less if Angle or Benoit or Eddy did roids since their matches kick ass, and they wouldn't be doing it to be freakishly huge.

 

I hate HHH, and I'm glad he's a barely mobile, roided up lump of cement, because the roids and injuries will take a toll on him sooner and get him the fuck out of the ring faster. Politicking AND sucking in the ring are the two main reasons I want him off the show, but even if it was just one I wouldn't want him on it either.

 

If he did neither, then good--but I don't see that happening since he has no incentive to stop sucking and politicking when he still is guaranteed a top spot and has the power to keep it.

 

Now could some one please get back to the topic?

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Warrior is another classic example from the past of someone who's roided to all hell. Dynamite Kid and the Bulldog are obviously two others.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Warrior is another classic example from the past of someone who's roided to all hell. Dynamite Kid and the Bulldog are obviously two others.

As far as I've heard it didn't effect Dynamite's performance. Bulldog's...yeah.

[Guest Army Eye]

LOL Ultimate Warrior, a classic example. Talk about an inhuman physique.

[Guest thebigjig]

This is true about Benoit.....his hairline is receding rapidly.....also, you can notice that Triple H scalp is starting to thin pretty badly.

My dad is going bald... does that mean he's on steroids too?

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Well, if your dad went from having a thick full head of hair to stringy thin hair with a receding scalp in a matter of months then i'd say its possible, yeah......Why don't you ask daddy if he ever used them. Let me know what he says