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[Guest Dace59]

Been as I've joined I figured I should try to give some none RP input in.

After scanning through the stats threds, I've seen a few moves that people say they cant describe that well.

So if there are any ones that people just cant seem to describe easily, I'll help if they want.

I do it all the time on the main SmartMarks board, might as well do it here if it's needed.

 

This is been the local Move Smark saying HI!

[Secret Agent 0]

Well hello, and welcome to this glorious federation.

 

I got one for you..what is the real wrestling move names for the rock bottom and the F5? This is not a test or anything, I'm just really curious to know.

[Guest Dace59]

F5: Fireman's Carry to DDT (A sloppy one in Brock's case)

 

Rock Bottom: Uranage Slam (same hook as in the Uranage suplex, but you slam them forwards instead of suplexing over).

 

Thanks for the welcome.

 

If this needs to go else where these's:

http://www.thesmartmarks.com/forums/index....931a3902a77797f

 

In the General Wrestling, on the main board where I've answerd lots of qs.

[Guest AnnieEclectic]

Now for the true test.

 

Under my stats (in the WF forum) I have a finisher called the "Hollowpoint Driver". Have you seen this before, and if so what is it's technical name?

 

-Annie

[Guest Dace59]

The desc is as bad as the Big Book... but from what I can puzzle out , if the opp is horizontal, and you're vertical and then you sit out with the opp landing face first between your legs:

 

That's a plain old Inverted powerbomb but with one strange and diffculty set up. The Inverted powerbomb has been done by guys like Vader, Blue Menine, so many it's not worth listing.

 

Anymore PM or wait, I'm going and dunno when I'll be back, and I have to sleep tonite (Is from UK)

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

Cool, Dace joined and he has my old finisher "Sheerdrop Thunderfire Bomb." Excellent. Quick question, does the Diamond Head "Kobashi's version" do the kneedrop like Kudo's or does he just throw them down. I pray Kobashi isn't using the kneedrop.

 

Also when I come back, I planned on ditching Kawada's Folding Powerbomb in favor of Benoit's Wildbomb. But is their techincally a difference between the two, other than Beniot has much nastier snap to it?

[Guest Kibagami]

The only difference I see between the two is that Kawada folds his opponent up for a pinfall. Benoit concentrates more on sending a motherfucker straight through the mat.

 

S.

[Guest Ace309]

w00t~! @ having the resident move smark around.

 

I liked the stats, btw, Dace.

 

tries desperately to stay on topic

 

Mak Francis is using my slang names ("across-the-back reverse neckbreaker" and "inside-out neckbreaker") for Mike Sanders' 3.0. I'm sure you get this a lot, but I don't recall seeing this in the Move Discussion thread, so can you help a brother out?

[Guest Dace59]

I think the DiamondHead is standing, or acorrding to some he sits out (onto his BUTT) We're all waiting for clear reports and clips of the move.

 

Sorry to be taking for finisher man, heh.

 

Kawada does fold up and slide for the pin. Benoit went so far down be doubled over to give that exrta impact.

 

The 3.0 is An inverted side headlock to torture rack backbreaker.

[Guest Thoth]

Wow. You really know your shit. I'm impressed.

 

But now I give my ultimate test, for I am Thoth.

 

I have a move called the Scum Gale. To the best of my knowledge, I invented this move.

 

Do you know anyone who might have used this move, ever, in the past?

[Guest Dace59]

That Scum Gale is Rey Mysterio's Moonsault Faceslam. And he's done far flashier versions that.

 

Guys that use that SmartMarks board and know me like Ace and Coffin will tell you just how much I know.

[Guest Thoth]

DAMMIT! I THOUGHT I WAS ORIGINAL! On the bus with you, heathen!

[Guest Dace59]

You anit gonna be original, 99.9999999999999% of all moves that there ever will be have been done know.

 

If I'm ever not here, IM me, MSN me, or dump the questiosn with details here.

 

Next questions please

[Guest Chuck Woolery]

I use a move called the Van Slaminator (and am JL). I have no idea if it's been used before, but have been told it's a variant of a backdrop driver. Has it been?

[Guest Kibagami]

I also have a question about a variant of my Demonstar Drivers. It starts as a standing crossface hold into a Sambo Suplex (which is a uranage variant from what I understand), but the opponent would take most of the bump on his shoulder and neck. Is there a proper name for this?

 

S.

[Guest Dace59]

It's not a Backdrop Driver type move.

It's the Beachbreaker/Persidons Revenge/Back Body Drop/Back to Belly Piledriver.

 

Used by Mankind, one of ths SAT and some Puro working I cant name off the cuff.

 

Like I said, all the moves will have been done before.

[Guest Dace59]

What do you mean by Cross Face?

If you mean the Goku Raku (opps arms over throat)

Then that's just a Goku Raku Sambo Suplex.

The Sambo just doesnt have all the twist and throw or a Uranage.

[Guest Insanityman]

Hmmm... does any wreslter use the top rope full nelson bulldog? Or for the first time have I been orignal?

[Guest Dace59]

Sorry to say this, dude in my local indy uses it.

Doing it off the same doesnt mean there is any more chance it wont have been done before.

[Guest Chuck Woolery]

Hey, what about the Russian Roulette? I'm sure somebody's used it, I just don't know who.

[Guest Kibagami]

The crossface I'm talking about is the boring little one from the Smackdown! games. It's probably misnamed, but anyway.

 

The attacker wraps both arms around the victim's arm, locking his hands at the shoulder, keeping the arm immobilized. Like I said, it's probably misnamed, but the Demonstar Driver was a sort of head drop Sambo Suplex from that position.

 

S.

[Guest Dace59]

Been done, sounds like Tiger Mask 1's front face lock suplex.

 

Demonstar Driver = High angle arm and neck bar (that's what the cross face is) Sambo Suplex

 

Then.

[Guest Kibagami]

Cool. Did he use it as a head drop, or was it toned down? I'd love to see a clip of it, since I've really only visualized it; never seen it anywhere.

 

S.

[Guest Dace59]

If you mean TM1's front face lock suplex, it's DDT 3 from No Mercy, and is in FPA1/2 cant rmemeber the name right now.

Taz also did it, Front Headlock Tazplex.

 

You just hook the face lock (dont hook anything else, not ever the arm) and snap them back and over, big pull on the neck, but it's a back bump. Damn visicous one though.

[Guest Kibagami]

Oh, I've seen that one. I want to know if I can find footage of somebody actually using the Demonstar Driver...

 

S.

[Guest Dace59]

Doubt it.

I can name it, it's probably been done, but probably in so indy fed and it's never been taped.

 

Try finding a clip of Hase's Uragane for how the head bump part might look (Hase invented the wrestling version, which is not realated much at all to the Judo throw of the same name)

[Guest Kibagami]

Ah. Thank you kindly.

 

S.

[Guest Dace59]

No problem man.

 

Any more while I'm here?

 

And just to check, are all my moves clear in my stats (Junior League thread, last post)?

[Guest Kibagami]

The moves are pretty clear, yeah...though you might want to rethink using the Avalanche Brainbuster and the Emerald Frosion as signatures instead of finishers.

 

S.

[Guest KingOfOldSchool]

I use a move called the Van Slaminator (and am JL).  I have no idea if it's been used before, but have been told it's a variant of a backdrop driver.  Has it been?

In addition to Dace's response, I'd just like to point out that EZ Money also used a move similar to this (Money in the Bank). Except his was a kneel-down instead of sit-out.

 

Okay Dace, this one is a Signature Move I used back when I was still writing. For lack of a simplified term, I simply deemed it a Hammerlock Slam or Hammerlock Drop, and it was used as the big set-up to a variety of holds on the arm.

 

Basically, the attacker would stand to the side of his opponent, grabbing an arm, and bringing it behind the opponent's own back while transitioning to the other side. With the arm contorted, the attacker would hook the other arm to support it, pick up the opponent horizontal, and plant him onto his back with both wrestlers ending up on the mat. For instance, right arm grabs left > left arm hooks right > pick up > slam. I also briefly used a Sit-Out as the end result.

 

It took a while to get to this point, but would either "Hammerlock Slam" or "Hammerlock Drop" be the most appropiate technical name? I've always had doubts about that name...