Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted October 25, 2002 For all of those lamenting over Show vs. Brock, keep in mind that Show will almost definitely lose, although likely will still be pushed. Yet what worries me more than that is the fact that Taker will be taking some time off--but when he retures, we'll get another memorable Show-Taker feud--then likely a REAL feud or two that leads up to WM--which he'll be at, but may or may not retire then. Or worse...remember the Taker-Show Alliance of the Chokeslam a few years ago? Which brought us that oh-so-memorable promo: Undertaker was already in his biker gimmick, but kinda switched without much explanation. And he said how he left Show in the desert with a bike with no gas in it, and Show later came into town with the bike over his shoulder and a new pair of snakeskin boots? Of course...that was right before another memorable moment occured, which is the only reason I remembered it really. Still, SD was refreshing. They're pushing Benoit and Angle but also Show. True, Show's bad but reading about Raw makes me look back fondly when the only really stupid things they did was push people like Show. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Big Show is better than Kane atleast. Hopefully Kane won't be in main events much longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Hell, right now I'd love to see Taker/Show as it would prevent Brock/Show which I don't want to see. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Taker/Show will at least limit the suckitude to at least one match on any given show. Better for them to fight each other than kill the crowds in two separate matches. Besides, that's a long ways away. Taker will need at least six months with his newborn baby to teach him the ways of the no-selling DeadMan. Sara: Eat your peas, Mark Jr. Baby Calloway: I'm just not feeling it. Taker: That's my boy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2002 I doubt UnderTaker will be retiring anytime soon. Last i heard he still has at least two years left on his current contract. Big Show is not better than Kane. Kane just needs to fight the right people to help him deliver a good match. Triple H needs good people to help him put on a good match. Put the two together and you have a stinkfest of a match. Plus Kane was far better when he was an unstopable one man wrecking crew. Now he's the one man comedy skit, with Hurican popping in every now and then. As for Brock/Show it's just so we can see Brock F5 Big Shows fat ass, and look even tougher than he already does. If played right and if Show could carry himself right, he could be played up to be a perfect unstopable force. But we all know that won't happen. After his Brock match, Show will be Jobbing to Funaki on Velocity. Maybe Albert too, since he seems to be the Big time ~Playah~ on Velocity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 25, 2002 As for Brock/Show it's just so we can see Brock F5 Big Shows fat ass... I don't know if that's possible. Wight's a legit 420-450. That's a lot of mass to hoist onto your shoulders, let alone swing around into a DDT. I like the idea of Lesnar pulling out the Shooting Star Press to beat Show. Even though it's Kidman's move, it would definitely pop the crowd and pave the way for his face turn, if that's what their motives are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2002 No way. It is too soon to turn Lesner face. Angle or Benoit need a face turn first and those two vs a heel lesner would get me to order a PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Lesnar could work as a tweener. I think tweeners have it better. Gives them more variety of opponents to face...more of a mixed fan base. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted October 25, 2002 I actually would look forward to a Big Show vs. Undertaker match, especially if the Undertaker returned using the Lord of Darkness gimmick. Wrestlemania 19 is where this match should take place, and the WWE could start building up to the match when the Undertaker returns. As for Lesnar vs. the Big Show, I'm hoping that Lesnar uses the Shooting Star Press as his finisher. Though, like stated already, this match is probably just so Lesnar can F-5 the Big Show, and do the impossible. You know they'd be building up to this match with Tazz and Cole saying that there's no way that Lesnar could F-5 the Big Show. Then, at the Survivor Series, Lesnar F-5's the Big Show, and gets the 1-2-3. I'd still prefer the Shooting Star Press, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Remember, he got Rikishi up there, and gave him the move with EASE. He's almost as heavy, and has a lower center of gravity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted October 25, 2002 I wouldn't really mind seeing Show getting a push against UT. Hell it might be nice to see it at WM next year, possibly with Show ending his streak. See, Big Show has been made to look like an idiot for a long time now, but it's not that hard to rebuild his credibility. I'm thinking a series of 911 style run ins and beatdowns would get him over with ease. That said if he mains Series against Lesnar AND they have HHH/Kane II, that is too much suck for me to handle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted October 25, 2002 I wouldn't really mind seeing Show getting a push against UT. Hell it might be nice to see it at WM next year, possibly with Show ending his streak. See, Big Show has been made to look like an idiot for a long time now, but it's not that hard to rebuild his credibility. I'm thinking a series of 911 style run ins and beatdowns would get him over with ease. That said if he mains Series against Lesnar AND they have HHH/Kane II, that is too much suck for me to handle. Plans may change if people WALK OUT during the match on house shows, which is what killed plans for a Bubba/HHH match. However, that would mean they wasted a week to build him up, so I don't think they'll do that, regardless of what happens. We will see Taker vs. someone at WM, probably Show, which they'll piece together from what we saw on SD. And I agree--Lesnar can F5 Show--he's done it to Rikishi and Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 25, 2002 ...Lesnar can F5 Show--he's done it to Rikishi and Henry. I'm still not sure Show can be F5'd. Rikishi and Mark Henry are heavy, but the majority of their mass is in the middle. Big Show is both heavy AND tall. The weight is distributed differently, thus it might be harder to both hoist him and swing him around. Kinda like lugging two big buckets of water on opposite ends of a pole rather than one gigantic bucket. I'm not sure about the physics of this, but it seems like it makes sense. If anyone can illustrate the contrary, I'll buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Remember Ahmed Johnson clearly lifted Yokozuna over his head once....Brock is twice as strong and will have easiness with F5ing Show... I don't have a prob with Show-Brock because it's clear it's a Squash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted October 25, 2002 The thing is, Henry and Rikishi are more able to swing themselves with the move and help Brock out. Show's just a big fat tub of shit. Brock can probably hoist him, but he'll be harder to spin around than Rikishi or Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nater Report post Posted October 25, 2002 I'll shit my pants if Brock "nashes" Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted October 25, 2002 The thing is, Henry and Rikishi are more able to swing themselves with the move and help Brock out. Show's just a big fat tub of shit. Brock can probably hoist him, but he'll be harder to spin around than Rikishi or Henry. Hm...point. I do think I've seen Luger rack him while spinning him around, but Show was much lighter then. Still, they way they are building it up, I think they've already tested, and found out he can do it. And probably that's the sole reason for the Big Show push anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted October 25, 2002 If anyone goes to the house shows in which it's Lesnar vs. the Big Show, please let us know whether or not Lesnar managaed to F-5 the Big Show. I'm actually interested to see if he can do it, though, there's always the possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Well Hell. Didn't Goldberg Jackhammer Show back in WcW? If Goldberg can do that than surley Mr. I run a mile with a tree draped across my shoulders can F5 Show's over paid fat ass. And just to add some humor too it, have Big Show smoking a cigarette while getting F5'd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted October 25, 2002 Well Hell. Didn't Goldberg Jackhammer Show back in WcW? If Goldberg can do that than surley Mr. I run a mile with a tree draped across my shoulders can F5 Show's over paid fat ass. And just to add some humor too it, have Big Show smoking a cigarette while getting F5'd. I'd think a Jackhammer requires more of Show's effort than the executor of the move. It's mostly Lesnar who'd be doing much of the work with the F-5. I maintain that I think Brock can do it, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
