Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted November 2, 2002 What's the foreign object that causes the most actual pain to the recipient? I'd have to say thumbtacks- the thought of tiny needles randomly sticking into the skin- it's just makes me cringe. Barbed wire, if used certain ways- put on a table or you get wrapped in it, has the same effect. A barbed-wire bat, for example, would hurt as much because the shot is usually pulled a lot and it would feel the same as a normal blade. How much do lighttubes hurt? The CZW weedwhacker would obviously win, but I'm not sure it's used enough to qualify as an official "foreign object." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I would think falling into the infamous "bed of flourescent lights" would be fairly painful. I would say the weedwhacker, but I think it goes against several U.N. sanctions so it shouldn't count. And of course, only Sandman knows the real answer to this question. We just need to wait for him to reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 2, 2002 what about falling into a bed of sheet glass, then having shards tear up the forehead? As in the case of the Head Hunter vs Head Hunter match from Japan as seen in the ICP Stranglemania tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Danny Report post Posted November 2, 2002 2 by 4 wrapped in barbed wire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted November 2, 2002 At the risk of sounding like a mark, the cheese grater always made me cringe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 2, 2002 Weedwhacker by a motherfucking mile. Having (foolishly) taken lightbulb shots before, I concur that they hurt like a motherfucker, and that's with me wearing a shirt! I had three taped together busted over my back, and it cut up the back of my neck pretty good. Real fun picking tons of little piece of glass out of your hair and skin, and I only had a minimal amount of glass broken over me, while clothed. I don't really wanna know what it's like to have lots of tubes busted over bare skin. Tacks hurt for the immediate impact. If you've ever watched tacks used in a match, you'd notice that only a few actually stick into the skin. It's like a tiny needle, but only stings for a bit. Barbed wire is the same way, unless it really digs into your skin. Then it can do some major damage. (Sabu from Born to Be Wired, Zandig from Deja Vu, among others) I'm sure a bed of nails could fuck you up real good, but it's all about spreading out the impact area. Foley said it best: more nails=less pain. The more you can spread an impact over an area, the less impact there is on a specific area. I'll lie on a bed of nails where there are tons of nails next to each other. Not a lot of nails, and I'm not touchin that thing. Carpet tack strips gotta suck too. Someone ask Mondo or Beater the answer to this question, and say that the weedwhacker doesn't count, since it wins by a motherfucking mile. I'd say tubes, but no-rope barbed wire has to be up there. Oh yeah. A part of me wants to say that the cheese grater isn't real at all. I thought it was too at first, but watching more matches with it, it's just holding the object to the person's head and "pushing down" pn it while they blade. If you see a person start raking it back and forth, then they might be doing some damage. But, I believe that the cheese graters aren't used to draw blood, just for effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I'm thinking a staple gun to the forehead is gonna leave a mark. Something I'd never want to take. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I completly forgot about staple guns. God, who's idea was it to actually load the guns? And Necro's having his shirt stapled to his TONGUE? Goo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 2, 2002 (screams like a girl while reading this thread) Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted November 2, 2002 Id personaly say the powerbomb onto a small area of nails would be the biggest bitch, or was it a leg drop, Foley talked about it in the book. Other then that, WEEDWACKER baby. Sandman, are you an indy wrestler, or were you refering to backyard experiences? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kingkamala Report post Posted November 2, 2002 Weedwhacker(although I haven't seen it used in a match) sounds painful by you guys descripitions. But I think Mick Foley hitting the Sandman with a cast iron skillet(as mentioned in Have A Nice Day) should at least be in the top 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted November 2, 2002 *Reads Sandy's post* JESUS CHRIST! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted November 2, 2002 New Jack slicing my Forhead with a "Rambo Survival Knife" and spitting blood into the 4th Row doesn't sound like a fun time to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I told you Sandman would know. This is like a dream thread for you, huh? I forgot about that staple gun too, I gather that would be fairly unpleasent. Those carpet tacks don't look like a whole lot of fun, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I actually took lightbulbs in a backyard setting (yeah, I'm never doing THAT again), they actually didn't hurt all that much, but then again I was wearing a hoodie. But I did get bulldogged into where tons of shards were. I'm really surprised I didn't get hurt that badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 2, 2002 I backyarded for a while, but we really weren't looking to do anything terribly hardcore. We mostly laughed at how bad we sucked. The only nasty thing I did there was try to blade (fucked it up badly, never doing that again) and took the tacks bump. Only about 200 tacks, since we're kinda poor and can't afford lots of shit. I always wonder where the hell those kids in the backyard wrestling videos get their shit from, and how they afford it. I can't see throwing down 30-40 bucks to waste on a backyard match. As for the bulbs, they weren't in a backyard setting at all. Originally, they were going to be used for a movie a different friend (not a backyarder) was going to make, for what I don't remember. We got about 25 tubes from a Gold's Gym, old bulbs they took out of the tanning booths. After the movie plan was scrapped, we were going to dispose of the bulbs, when someone (probably me) decided to smash the bulbs over ourselves. Needless to say, I took a majority of them, and came up the "brilliant" idea to tape three together. I don't think I could be an indy wrestler. Too much sacrificing for me. I think I could do one balls-out deathmatch, just for the experience and to say I did it. I couldn't do one every weekend or something like that, like Necro and Pondo and others do. It's why I respect them so much; since they are able to do something I'm not able to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Midnight Express83 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 WEEDWACKER!?! JESUS FREAKING CHRIST! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterberg is God 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 I saw this death match comp and there's nothing like a pirhana match or a cactus match. The object of the first was to put your opponent in a tank of pirhanas. The second one had cactuses around the posts. It was fucked up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 That's defiently Matsunaga's doing. For the "pirhanas," they really didn't do much, or even bite Matsunaga (who of course took the bump). Questionable idea, worse in concept. Cactus' on the other hand, can do some serious damage. BJW and CZW have used them. I've got a clip on my computer with Kronus powerbombing Pondo onto and through a cactus. It's vicious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 3, 2002 That's defiently Matsunaga's doing. For the "pirhanas," they really didn't do much, or even bite Matsunaga (who of course took the bump). Questionable idea, worse in concept. Cactus' on the other hand, can do some serious damage. BJW and CZW have used them. I've got a clip on my computer with Kronus powerbombing Pondo onto and through a cactus. It's vicious. I heard they actually trim down the spikes on the cacti for those matches. I'd like to nominate salt, lemon juice, tabasco sauce, and rubbing alcohol in this category as well. Ain't nothing like going through tons of lightbulbs and barbed wire and then having salt poured on your wounds (Beater/Mondo). And yes, I do agree, the Weedwhacker is too sick for words. Weedwhacker's After Effects: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 You're also right about the salt, etc...they aren't used that often, thankfully. I have TOD, and I enjoy everything on the tape up until the weedwhacker part. I simply can't watch it. Wifebeater turns on the weedwhacker, I stop the tape. I watched it once, even the slow motion replay after the match, and I simply can't watch it again. I also think it's amazing how Mondo has no noticable permanent scars from that shot. Weeks later at Ultraviolent Freedom of Expression, his stomach looks normal. It's unreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 3, 2002 You're also right about the salt, etc...they aren't used that often, thankfully. I have TOD, and I enjoy everything on the tape up until the weedwhacker part. I simply can't watch it. Wifebeater turns on the weedwhacker, I stop the tape. I watched it once, even the slow motion replay after the match, and I simply can't watch it again. I also think it's amazing how Mondo has no noticable permanent scars from that shot. Weeks later at Ultraviolent Freedom of Expression, his stomach looks normal. It's unreal. How do you think they're going to top that? I've seen them use the weedwhacker with lightbulbs (Stretched in Smyrna), but it didn't look like it made much contact. I'd give them suggestions, but they may read this board and then I'll feel responsible for like Nick Mondo having his right ball chopped off by a lawnmower blade or something.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 I guess they could attack thumbtacks to the strings of the weedwhacker, but I'm not sure how that could work. I'm not sure it is possible to top the weedwhacker, or why a person would want to top it. It's already the most dangerous object to enter a wrestling ring, I'm not sure how you could top a power tool with nothing short of firearms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted November 3, 2002 woot! I thought of how to make the weedwhacker deadlier! Take the wire out of the base, and replace them with carpet tack strips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted November 3, 2002 wouldn't a belt sander hurt like a mofo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted November 3, 2002 After looking at the Weedwacker pic, all I can say coherently is "That wins". The rest of my spiel would be a bunch of obsenities strung together while I cringe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 3, 2002 If you think the pic is bad, watch the actual weedwhacker shot. The pic is just blood iciing on the bloody cake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted November 5, 2002 How come, even while bringing up Matsunaga's name, nobody mentioned fire? Christ, but getting ignited kerosene blown into your face and hair must not feel good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Glass is it for me. I have falled onto a table covered in thumbtacks and it really isn't that bad but with glass you never know how it will break and anything can happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sandman9000 Report post Posted November 5, 2002 You've got a point Jingus, but I think it's because all of us have been burnt at some time in our lives (though not to that extent), but NONE of us have the balls to take a weedwhacker shot, me included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites