EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2002 I know about Nagata Lock II (reverse figure four), but what is Nagata Lock I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wolverine Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Not a Nagata fan at all, but I believe it's a crossface submission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Really? I could have sworn it was his Front Naked Choke. I wasn't sure, so I thought I would ask the experts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Uh, no? Nagata Lock I is the figure-four. II is the Crippler Crossface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Speaking of whom, weird that nobody here has said a word about the Nagata-Chono match which went an hour last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Wouldn't they have to SEE it first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 5, 2002 The Front Naked Choke thing you heard about was probably just a miscomception stemmed from Nagata using some of Akiyama's offense as part of the rivalry/partnership between them, where Nagata used some of Akiyama's key moves (Guillotine Choke, Exploider, ect.) And I hadn't heard about the one hour draw, but Chono's new-found afinity for broadway matches is a little disturbing, especially considering he's booking himself in all of them. I have to think that's a little bit on the risky side, considering the point he's at in his career. Wierd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Wouldn't they have to SEE it first? They haven't seen the GREAT MUTA's injury, which took place on the same show, but there was plenty of talk about that. I guess that with Mutoh and so many others gone now, Chono thinks that he has to re-prove himself in the ring, to be the new standard of his generation in NJPW. Either that, or he just really likes taking his time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2002 OK. So to clarify...Nagata Lock I is the figure-four, and Nagata Lock II is the Crippler Crossface??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PlatypusFool Report post Posted November 5, 2002 Isn't that exactly what Jubuki said? Just to repeat everyone, cos you know I'm a breed of parrot; Nagata Lock I is the figure-four variant, Nagata Lock II is the crippler crossface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted November 7, 2002 They talked about the MUTA injury because it directly affected NJ tours. This doesn't really affect anything, other than we get another ridiculously-long Chono match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cataclysm911 Report post Posted November 7, 2002 OK. So to clarify...Nagata Lock I is the figure-four, and Nagata Lock II is the Crippler Crossface??? Well, yeah, but it's not a Figure-Four. It's a variation.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 7, 2002 It was patently obvious from the beginning that the reverse figure four was meant. This thread should have ended 8 posts ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cataclysm911 Report post Posted November 7, 2002 It was patently obvious from the beginning that the reverse figure four was meant. This thread should have ended 8 posts ago. Says the man who tries to get in the last word.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jubuki Report post Posted November 7, 2002 You aren't helping! Shh! Shh! Shh! That's a pre-emptive Shh! I don't wanna hear Shh! outta you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted November 7, 2002 What? Ok. CLOSE THIS UP MAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites