Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted November 8, 2002 I was just reading Scott Keith's "Smackdown Rant" and he said something that caught me off guard. -------------------------------------------- "People are right – Benoit’s left arm is getting smaller, and that’s a really bad sign. That’s the same sign of nerve damage that led to the retirements of Arn Anderson and Paul Orndorff. For those wondering why the crossface has been looking so sloppy lately, there you go." ----------------------------------------------- I haven't noticed this and I'm watching the Tag Match from last night right now, and I don't see it. Anyone here notice this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunk 0 Report post Posted November 8, 2002 The only "sloppyness" I have ever noticed with the crossface, is the fact that he doesn't ever seem to hook the arm properlly anymore. If that is what you are reffering to, then I agree it has become a little sloppy. I don't know why he doesnt hook the arm though? Surley that has nothing to do with his left arm, and it makes the move look so much more real when he hooks the arm. He alwyas used to do it, but lately he doesn't seem to bother. ChUnK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Geez, and here I thought someone had finally realized that SWF commissioner and fellow Western Canadian Stubby P. McWeed is actually Chris Benoit posting between house shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Luchadore Magnifico Report post Posted November 8, 2002 That would explains Stubby's overall GODLINESS~! *retains title for 503 more days* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Well i think the "beloved" Scott Keith who's stuff i've never read is going insane if he's resorted to discussing someone's arm shrinking. If the crossface is looking sloppy I'd say it's a byproduct of the infamous and dreaded "WWe Style". Alot of moves look sloppy thanks to that garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Well i think the "beloved" Scott Keith who's stuff i've never read is going insane if he's resorted to discussing someone's arm shrinking. If the crossface is looking sloppy I'd say it's a byproduct of the infamous and dreaded "WWe Style". Alot of moves look sloppy thanks to that garbage. He mentioned it in the context of Arn Anderson & Paul Orndorf, each of whom had the same thing as a result of nerve damage, forcing them into retirement. And he also mentioned a reader brought it to his attention, and that he 1st noticed it on last night's SD because he was specifically looking for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Why would this "WWE Style" affect a crossface? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted November 8, 2002 I more then less, just wanted to know if anyone see's what SK is talking about? His arm doesn't look smaller to me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted November 8, 2002 I more then less, just wanted to know if anyone see's what SK is talking about? His arm doesn't look smaller to me? It does. One arm looks considerably more thicker & muscular than the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Why would this "WWE Style" affect a crossface? Same way the Liontamer has turned into a standing Boston Crab. Ignoring the argument of bigger, less flexible guys not being able to take the move / Jericho not being able to put it on them. The WWE tones everything down to prevent injury, this includes painful submission holds altered so that they aren't as painful. Even if he's not trying to hurt you, you'll still feel it if a Crossface were properly applied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted November 8, 2002 It looked to me that the right arm is the slightly smaller of the two, but it could be my brain playing tricks on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted November 8, 2002 The crossface looks sloppy because more than half of the time it comes from a reversal, so it's hooked fairly quickly. The lack of an arm-hook also makes it easier for the person in the hold to reverse out of it. That's why he doesn't hook the arm anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheGame2705 Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Either he is getting to be like Anderson or he just jerks off alot thus making one arm bigger. Oh well, he should be safe as long as Lex Luger doesn't go overboard on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 8, 2002 I am betting it's the jerking off reason...guy gets lonely on the road and they took all the girls to raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Hey he's a happily married man! He has Woman at ho.....man if I was married to that I'd probably jerk off a lot to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted November 8, 2002 I can't say I noticed a difference in the size of his arms. Then again, it could have been just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BA_Baracus Report post Posted November 8, 2002 Yes. Yes I am Chris Benoit. Thanks for asking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted November 8, 2002 If Benoit is having arm uhm..shrinkage, I say just watch every performance with that much more appreciation, because it all could be gone in the near future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ozzysheadlessbattheonlinelegend Report post Posted November 8, 2002 or he just jerks off alot thus making one arm bigger. That's what happened to me. Seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 9, 2002 You should have just alternated hands. I was only ambidexterous when Masturbating... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Quik Report post Posted November 9, 2002 I'm righty, but I can only jack it with my left hand. It's weird. Hmm, a thread on Chris Benoit has turned into a masturbation discussion. If this weren't on a Smark Board, I'd find it creepy. Ha ha, I made a funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest phoenixrising Report post Posted November 9, 2002 Well, if that's the way he exercises his arms, it must be a rather...satisfying session. Now he just needs to start using both and his arm will be as good as new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted November 9, 2002 I've noticed, and thought about the reason for the lack of arm-holding during the Crossface ever since Benoit began doing it, and I think I know the answer: IT LOOKS GAY He's clasping a guy's arm in between his legs. Can you imagine the stereotypical non-fan who thinks all of wrestling is gay, seeing this supposedly "most devestating submission maneuver" where a guy looks like he's humping his opponent's arm? I'm being serious. I wouldn't put it past Vince or someone in the offices to tell Benoit to stop doing the Crossface that way because it involved arm to genital contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ace309 Report post Posted November 9, 2002 That, and anyone who's ever gone through a season of high school, freestyle or Greco-Roman wrestling is sitting there waiting for him to finish his damn pinning combination. A crossface is mildly uncomfortable at best, and that's mainly due to impact when it's first applied. Benoit's move looks like he's just squashing the guy's nose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted November 10, 2002 I just saw a picture of him and Guerrero in RAW magazine with Rey Rey on the cover, and his left arm is in fact noticeably smaller than his right one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites