Benoit/Angle/Edge/Rey/Eddy/Chavo

[Guest goodhelmet]

Spare me the "just enjoy it and stop thinking" arguement. Hate to be the odd man out, but I tend to enjoy using the matter in my skull to produce thoughts.

 

Even if any of these matches were four stars (which is shaky, at best), if they aren't booked to mean anything or make the workers involved mean anything, the "good" wrestling isn't going to do anything for anyone. Throwing out pay-per-view quality matches on free TV shows an inability to build for the future and a disinterest in making any of the work beneficial to the long-term status of the show. It's Heyman By The Numbers and it's the reason that no one could be bothered to care about the Angle/Benoit feud after the first match at Wrestlemania last year, even if the matches were "great" on WWE standards.

 

Good work - good booking = meaningless in three weeks.

hey, no one ever said the booking was good or even ok. BUT if your goal is to be entertained by the actual wrestling in the ring then these guys are accomplishing that. NO ONE has had a good program in months. the booking has been horrible for everyone. fuck the b-level acting and storyline entertainment. give me a fucking story inside the ring and i'll be happy.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Just for the record, I'm not complaining about the quality of the matches these 6 deliver. Hell, I love seeing these 6 wrestle. The only problem is that after awhile, it tends to get a bit boring. Still, I'd rather see great matches than shitty matches anyday, even if it's the same 6 guys wrestling each other. Eventually, the WWE should add Matt, Tajiri, Kidman, and Noble to the mix. I for one would love to see a Chavo vs. Kidman match, or even a Chavo vs. Tajiri match.

[Guest RedJed]

What...you're tired of watching 6 of the best wrestlers in the world go at it after about a month and a half?

 

Okay...whatever.

 

People on the net will bitch about anything...I guess regular 20 minute, 4 star matches on free TV isn't enough to satisfy anymore.

I agree totally. This thread is living proof that when the wrestlers and companies bitch about the internet fans, they actually have a valid point. It's like you guys are critical of even the best shit the WWF has put out consistently in years! F'n unreal.

 

Why don't you guys just sit back and enjoy the sport you apparently all love so much in times like these? In the current WWE state we're lucky to have these matches right now, PERIOD. The typical punch-kick-punch style of the company has been toned down in the last few months, and this is the result of it. I say.........THANK YOU!

[Guest razazteca]

so storylines are more important than quality wrestling?

 

try watching Raw where the storylines are the main attration and quality wrestling takes the back seat to HHH destroying his competition week in week out with storylines that kill characters crediblity.

[Guest Zero_Cool]

I think that they could easily solve this "problem" with having some of the best wrestlers in the world putting on **** matches every week. Other people have mentioned this, why not add Kidman, Tajiri, Mattitude and say Lesnar into the mix?

 

Who else would like to see Benoit and Tajiri get 10-15 minutes and a program to go along with it?

 

But afterall, I'll take what they're giving me right now on Smackdown!..and I'll like it!

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

For free TV it's fine, but they really need to change things for PPVs.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Who said that anyone was bitching about this? The thread creator did start out by saying he appreciated the quality being put out by the six.

 

I think the issue here is that the six keep fighting each other over and over again and it means less each time, because nothing really comes of it. I like the idea of a six-way with the winner getting a shot at Lesnar. I only wish one of the six, Eddie, wasn't beaten so decisively by Lesnar last week.

 

I also agree that other SD good wrestlers should be thrown into the mix once in awhile. It wouldn't hurt.

[Guest Loss4Words]

I think the point that Chosyu may be trying to make is that good wrestling and good storylines don't have to be mutually exclusive. I am still enjoying all the awesome matches every week, but I can definitely see the point of those who think it's starting to get a little tiresome.

 

Part of the problem when we Internet fans try to fantasy book (and I'm guilty of this too) is that we think it's some internal battle between wrestling and storylines. Even JR seems to say something to this affect every week in the Ross Report saying they can't seem to find the right balance of "steak" and "sizzle".

 

Great wrestlers with great angles in great matches make great money. All the factors have to be there for anything to be successful unless you're talking about a once in a lifetime match like Hogan v Andre or something along those lines.

 

And I'm loving Smackdown at the moment and believe it or not, for all the combinations of Benoit/Eddy/Angle/Edge/Rey/Chavo we've seen, there are still several more we haven't.

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

WOW.

 

Having been weaned off of wrestling for some time now, I don't really have a say on either side of the issue.

 

I'm just shocked that Loss posted again on this board.

[Guest Loss4Words]

THERE YOU ARE!

 

I've been looking for ya. The tapes are great. Thanks for compiling them for me. I wanted to e-mail and let you know I got them, but I had misplaced your e-mail address.

 

Hope all is well.

[Guest BA_Baracus]

I'd maybe understand if these same 6 guys had been feuding for like...years or something, but this feud has been going barely 2-months.

 

I mean on the one hand, smarks complain about the lack of long term storylines, or long title reigns, but as soon as a feud goes on for longer than a month everyone starts bitching. Make up your freakin' mind!

 

The WWE was dominated by more or less the same 5 or 6 guys in the main event for years, and most of those guys were inferior to the current 6 being pushed on Smackdown in terms of wrestling talent.

 

And to your argument that Smackdown is poorly booked...it's not. I think the current tag team feud is far from poorly booked. From the hot feud between Benoit and Angle, to awesome job the Geurreros as the shit stirrers to the fact that the Smackdown tag titles are actually worth something (something that couldn't be said about any WWE tag titles for a couple years now) this feud has been very well booked. There is still so much more that can be done with this angle...to end it now would be a complete waste.

 

Stop trying to find the negatives in every single thing. Smarks have become that annoying guy who watches the Godfather or Apocalypse Now and points out minor continuity errors instead of enjoying the film as a whole.

 

But anyways...don't worry guys. I'm sure the streak of 4 star plus matches won't last forever. We'll have a bunch of less talented wrestlers put into the mix eventually and the agony of having to wat the same 6 wrestlers in the main event will end. Then you can bitch about how the wrestling isn't as good as when Benoit/Angle/Edge/Rey/Eddy/Chavo were in the main event. Won't that be fun?

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

For fear of sounding too Anglesault-ish, those six aren't in the main event. They're upper carders, yes, but not main eventers. Big Show is getting the main event push, these six are not.

 

I'm still curious as to what can still be done with this angle. Do you have any ideas? It seems played out to me.

 

Oh, and I like how a thread with only 40 replies now encompasses "everyone". Nice.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Weeeellll...first off, there need to be more tag teams. A Mattitude/Cena tag team is just screaming out to be made. I don't see a more natural pairing anywhere else. Shannon Moore/Tajiri could be good also, and maybe Crash/Guido once he turns up. Of the Six, I only see the Guerreros remaining a true tag-team. For the other four, do Rey-Knoble finally, but make it important, and create a new main-event cycle with Edge, Angle, Benoit and Brock. Big Show can just go and job out like he always does.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

I believe the arguement is, they are wrestling the same matches for no real reason - thus making them meaningless.

 

I dunno about you guys, but I personally have never heard of "free TV".

[Guest RickyChosyu]

so storylines are more important than quality wrestling?

 

try watching Raw where the storylines are the main attration and quality wrestling takes the back seat to HHH destroying his competition week in week out with storylines that kill characters crediblity.

Quality wrestling is quality storytelling. You're trying to segregate them into two different groups, but they're the same. A good promotion should know how to use its talent pool and build it into something meaningfull. The "wrestling" is the best we've seen all year, but it's not booked to mean anything. They just throw the same match-ups out there to give the impresion that they're focusing on wrestling, but really, they're missing the point of having good wrestling.

[Guest notJames]

so storylines are more important than quality wrestling?

 

try watching Raw where the storylines are the main attration and quality wrestling takes the back seat to HHH destroying his competition week in week out with storylines that kill characters crediblity.

Quality wrestling is quality storytelling. You're trying to segregate them into two different groups, but they're the same. A good promotion should know how to use its talent pool and build it into something meaningfull. The "wrestling" is the best we've seen all year, but it's not booked to mean anything. They just throw the same match-ups out there to give the impresion that they're focusing on wrestling, but really, they're missing the point of having good wrestling.

I agree with Ricky. Right now, everything is peachy-keen wrestling-wise among the SmackDownSix. But sooner or later, when all three teams have fought each other and traded the belts, with no one team dominating or moving onto bigger things, it could just turn into an exhibition full of sound and fury signifying nada.

 

Take a look at all those lucha matches they'd throw on Nitro and Thunder. Lots of flippy floppy action, but nothing meaningful accomplished. It just became a tumbling show full of guys with no discernible characters or motivations. And what fun is that after the 13 millionth iteration?

 

The balance is the key. Right now, the vying for the tag belts is good, with the subplot of Angle/Benoit's animosity. But if that's all that they're going to use them for, with no movement by anyone into a main event scene that sorely needs it, I don't see what the point of it is.

 

That said, after putting up with RAW's constant fuck-ups, I'm just glad we're finally getting good wrestling. For now...