Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted November 16, 2002 I liked the Spinebuster/Alabama Slam into a jackknife pin that Booker T did once or twice. It wouldn't work on Brock or Undertaker, but it looked graceful when he flipped over perfectly. Honestly I think Women wrestlers and cruisers should be preffered to big men, because there are just so many moves that cannot be done to big men. How is Jericho supposed to put Mark Henry into the walls? He's not. That's part of why Jericho had to use a chair/belt to beat friggin MARK HENRY!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted November 16, 2002 best finisher- VERTABREAKER! Worst- Chokeslam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ElectricRaccoon Report post Posted November 16, 2002 ...or maybe a cruicifix powerbomb, because a cruicifix is in the shape of a †(T) "BT Bomb" would work without a name change, too. Plus, the crucifix powerbomb is one of the coolest looking moves around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ElectricRaccoon Report post Posted November 16, 2002 I hate the Overdrive/O-Zone, and the Roll of the Dice/whatever Test calls it (the Testicle Drop?). "I am proud to announce that my Testicles have finally descended...on (name of arena)." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted November 16, 2002 A note about Orton's finisher - I remember reading that Orton had a swank-ass finisher in OVW, apparently some sort of wheelbarrow suplex whixh he flipped back into a bridge, supposedly a really cool visual. Don't know why he hasn't busted it out yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 16, 2002 A note about Orton's finisher - I remember reading that Orton had a swank-ass finisher in OVW, apparently some sort of wheelbarrow suplex whixh he flipped back into a bridge, supposedly a really cool visual. Don't know why he hasn't busted it out yet. because the German Wheelbarrow Suplex would get instant pops and Ortan is supposed to be a heel. Also nobody is supposed to look better than god-UH. I would even consider the Oklahoma Roll as a credible finisher but Blue Chipper still uses a weak Cross Body Press for no reason at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 16, 2002 A note about Orton's finisher - I remember reading that Orton had a swank-ass finisher in OVW, apparently some sort of wheelbarrow suplex whixh he flipped back into a bridge, supposedly a really cool visual. Don't know why he hasn't busted it out yet. the "superstars" don't know how to take the bump...and a certain diva-uh doesn't want to be upstged... see ssp-lesnar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 16, 2002 He's a DIVO, DAMNIT! DivO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 16, 2002 He's a DIVO, DAMNIT! DivO! Dave Batista is the next Zeus, Ortan is closer to Cousin Day-Day more than anybody, I can see him giving Victoria cookies. Get a real finisher OVW boys and matches that last longer than 3 minutes.....did I say 3 Minutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 16, 2002 ::Jamal and Rosie come out and injure everyone in the thread:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 16, 2002 the Island Boys need training from Rikishi, so they can learn how not to kill their opponets. The Samoan Drop by Island Boy #1 is not only sloppy but hella lame. They should try a double team finisher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 16, 2002 Yes, say what you want about Rikishi, but he doesn't really hurt people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted November 16, 2002 Jerry Lynn does a mean TKO in TNA, for those mentioning the TKO earlier. Know what move I'd want to see? The Amityville Horror. Ivory used it for a little bit (fireman's carry-to-Michinoku Driver II), but hers was pretty lame. I'd also like to see the Whiplash II used. Lash LeRoux used it in WCW (when he still gave 2 shits about putting on good matches). It's a Russian Legsweep with a front chancery applied. LeRoux gets the opponent's head over his shoulder, like for an Ace Crusher, but then hooks a leg of his opponent with his leg, and trips them up. It made for a decent visual. Not really a finisher per se, but worked good for a transition move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted November 16, 2002 Wait a minute, we forget another time-honored set of wrestling moves--rollups. Sometimes they are "el cheapos" because technically they don't hurt anyone and, when done, look like a booking cop out. But some rollups are the most sophisticated moves one can do in wrestling, and executing a non-injurious complex pin combination is a sure-fire indication of wrestling skill and mastery, in addition to being a work of art. One such example is the Twin City Twister, as done by Molly in the States. That's the 'hold hands' pinning combination that starts off as an Indian Deathlock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 16, 2002 One such example is the Twin City Twister, as done by Molly in the States. That's the 'hold hands' pinning combination that starts off as an Indian Deathlock along with La Magistral, Backslide, Oklahoma Rollup, Victory Roll, Hurricana are good pinning moves but the School Boy is truely "el cheapo" unless the feet are on the rope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted November 16, 2002 Matches won by roll ups are seen as flukes. I could buy them happening after 15 minutes of wearing someone down. But after 6 minutes I consider it a cop out. There's no reason why some people can last 20 minutes and some 1:08. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 16, 2002 Matches won by roll ups are seen as flukes. I could buy them happening after 15 minutes of wearing someone down. But after 6 minutes I consider it a cop out. There's no reason why some people can last 20 minutes and some 1:08. I think they need to fire 50% of the talent and go back to 8-12 minute matches.... I never thought of Bret's many roll-ups as "flukes", but he had had a good hard match too.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Matches won by roll ups are seen as flukes. I could buy them happening after 15 minutes of wearing someone down. But after 6 minutes I consider it a cop out. There's no reason why some people can last 20 minutes and some 1:08. depending on the context, a lot of roll ups are meant to be seen as a case of one wrestler just outsmarting the other. best examples are when bret played possum at survivor series 95 against diesel, and the first fall of flair/steamboat when flair reversed the roll up steamboat had won with at the previous match. and i know it's meant to be seen as a fluke, but when a guy gets pinned by a roll up due to some other wrestler interrupting (like rvd/austin), i'm always thinking "you fucking dumbass, if you don't PAY ATTENTION TO THE MATCH you deserve to lose." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted November 17, 2002 molly takes way too long to set up the 'twin city twister' to give it any plausibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted November 17, 2002 The pinning combination Angle used to beat Cena in Cena's first match was quite simply uber. Angle should bust out more of those more often as a viable finishing alternative to the Angle Slam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 17, 2002 The pinning combination Angle used to beat Cena in Cena's first match was quite simply uber. Angle should bust out more of those more often as a viable finishing alternative to the Angle Slam. I hate you. IMO, if your opponent can get up before you, the move looks like a total fluke. Now, the top rope Angle slam he did to Rey, on the other hand, is a good alternative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted November 17, 2002 It doesn't take that long for Molly to do it: about three or four seconds, about as long as the figure four. Remember, it is series of moves: Indian deathlock, while doing it double hand hold, then twist to the cradle pin. If she does it a little slow to your liking, that's is so she doesn't sprain her opponent's legs in the process by turining too fast. If allowed, she can add psychology to do the finishing series. For example, she can hold the Indian deathlock a liittle while longer to generate heel heat, or look like she is hurting her opponent, before doing the finish. Fortunately for her opponent, Molly never seeks to hurt or embarass her opponent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ash Ketchum Report post Posted November 17, 2002 Know what move I'd want to see? The Amityville Horror. Ivory used it for a little bit (fireman's carry-to-Michinoku Driver II), but hers was pretty lame. Wait, that's the Samoan Driver, no? Where she had the person on her shoulders then flipped them down into what looked like a fire thunder driver? I use that in my e-fed as my top signature move. Only it's the cradle version of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted November 17, 2002 The MD2 can be a flat back, high angle or sheer drop bump. Depending on who's doing it, who's taking it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted November 17, 2002 The pinning combination Angle used to beat Cena in Cena's first match was quite simply uber. Angle should bust out more of those more often as a viable finishing alternative to the Angle Slam. I hate you. IMO, if your opponent can get up before you, the move looks like a total fluke. Now, the top rope Angle slam he did to Rey, on the other hand, is a good alternative. whoooa there, keep it in the NHB, missy.... i think the angle slam's fairly average as a finisher too, but a fine transition move, and that's what it is these days anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted November 17, 2002 my favorite MD2 is Dr Wagner version out of a Power Slam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted November 17, 2002 TKO is good, although..."T-Set?" Ugh...that's almost as bad a name as the "Book End." c'mon, i was just throwing out there as and example, it isn't SOOO bad. altho i liked AS's suggestion, "By the Book". Why do you have a picture of Joe Don Baker from "Final Justice" in your sig, though? why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites