Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Here's my general impression: S - U - C - K. It's still a Smackdown game and, honestly, the game mechanics are almost a step backwards from Just Bring It. It's almost like Smackdown has been injected with even more speed and more non-sensical no-selling and randomness. I've been hit with finishers when my opponent didn't have finishers. I've seen reversal animation cycles get cut off just in time for me to swallow a Stunner. And, just in case you thought the commentary would be improved, I've also heard "that bastard Austin's whalin' with that right hand" while I'm holding Austin in a headlock. RVD's animations are dead-on (which makes everybody else's animations look like a hack job) and I haven't messed with the CAW yet, though, so there is perhaps some hope still left...but right now, it's got to make up a lot of ground for me not to be disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted November 20, 2002 I haven't gone the CAW path yet, but I've been playing a season as Brock. I won the Undisputed title on my first shot, and defended it a few times. Then I had a ladder match against Booker T for the belt. I'm controlling the match, and have a finisher available. Booker hits me with a random spinebuster out of nowhere, climbs the ladder (which was NOT in the center of the ring, mind you) in about a half-second and grabs the belt. Really, it was that fast: he was on the ground reaching for the ladder, then he was reaching for the belt. I don't mind losing the strap as long as it's in a good match, but WTF?? That's one of my caveats with the game, which I think is solid overall. Other complaints would be the difficulty in changing between opponents, random no-selling, and some occasional collision detection issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Until a wrestling game can take itself as seriously as the Tekken franchise for example, and actually work to contain everything it could possibly contain, instead of the half jobs we get every year, despite CAW, they will always be second teir fighters. I can't take a game seriously when it has me suplexing someone out of a dropkick, or subpar graphics, or just a lack of characters. There's no reason why the roster couldn't be twice as large. CAW has always been my favorite thing for SD!, but when it came down to it, you could CAW the night away, and the next day you still have to play a shady game. Yes there are fun move, yes it's fun to do spike piledrivers to people. Hurrah. But honestly, where's the polish? There are too many spotty things, I just wish a wrestling game would get half the quality of tekken, and you can't say that it has. Otherwise there would be no compaints, in terms of collision detection especially. Stupid shit like that destroys any mark out value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Until a wrestling game can take itself as seriously as the Tekken franchise for example, and actually work to contain everything it could possibly contain, instead of the half jobs we get every year, despite CAW, they will always be second teir fighters. I can't take a game seriously when it has me suplexing someone out of a dropkick, or subpar graphics, or just a lack of characters. There's no reason why the roster couldn't be twice as large. CAW has always been my favorite thing for SD!, but when it came down to it, you could CAW the night away, and the next day you still have to play a shady game. Yes there are fun move, yes it's fun to do spike piledrivers to people. Hurrah. But honestly, where's the polish? There are too many spotty things, I just wish a wrestling game would get half the quality of tekken, and you can't say that it has. Otherwise there would be no compaints, in terms of collision detection especially. Stupid shit like that destroys any mark out value. The VPW engine takes itself as seriously as Tekken and though not a graphic treat it is a gameplay one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Hey Trivia not too sure if there is anyone to unlock(don't think there is though) but here is the roster you start with: Playable Superstars 1. The Rock 2. Stone Cold 3. Triple H 4. The Undertaker 5. Rob Van Dam 6. Kurt Angle 7. Chris Jericho 8. Kane 9. Booker T 10. Chris Benoit 11. Edge 12. Christian 13. Matt Hardy 14. Jeff Hardy 15. Lita 16. Bubba Ray Dudley 17. D-Von Dudley 18. William Regal 19. Lance Storm 20. Diamond Dallas Page 21. Stephanie McMahon 22. Vince McMahon 23. Randy Orton 24. Faarooq 25. Bradshaw 26. Test 27. Big Show 28. Trish Stratus 29. Tajiri 30. Rikishi 31. Ric Flair 32. Stacy Keibler 33. Hollywood Hulk Hogan 34. Kevin Nash 35. The Big Valbowski 36. Chuck 37. Billy 38. Albert 39. Shawn Stasiak 40. Tazz 41. The Hurricane 42. Molly Holly 43. Torrie Wilson 44. Spike Dudley 45. Brock Lesnar 46. Rhyno 47. Raven 48. Maven 49. X-Pac 50. Jazz 51. Eddie Guerrero 52. Billy Kidman 53. Hardcore Holly 54. Rico 55. Ivory 56. Al Snow 57. Mark Henry 58. Scotty 2 Hotty 59. Shawn Michaels 60. Goldust Non-Playable 61. Michael Cole (BackStage Interviewer) 62. Earl Hebner (In-ring Referee) 63. Jim Ross (Commentator) 64. Jerry Lawler (Commentator) 65. Debra (Backstage manager for Stone Cold) 66. Linda McMahon (Backstage manager for Vince McMahon) Where's CHAVO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insane Bump Machine Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Where's CHAVO? Chavo isn't in but his face, body and attire are in CAW. I made a perfect looking Chavo in about 5 minutes and formed Los Guerreros as a new stable. Not a problem really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2002 Is there no Cattle Mutilation in the game? FOR SHAME!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted November 21, 2002 ***POSSIBLE SPOILER*** In Season Mode, after WM, J.R. comes up to me and goes, "I want to push you for a World Title shot"...I agree with him. I guess the point of me saying this is that I guess that makes my CAW a hoss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 21, 2002 Im still in Season mode..and Outside... SEASONS ARE CHANGING Mother bird lays eggs and next thing I known the Eggs hatch and the baby birds are flying away. my clothes are going out of style and back into style Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted November 21, 2002 A few questions: Is there a match mode called Captain Fall Tornado or something like that? I heard it mentioned in several magazine reviews and I think I saw it as a match between other wrestlers on season mode but I can't find it anywhere on exhibition Can you enter your caw midway through the season mode, I went to new entry but he wasn't on there!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 21, 2002 unfortunately even with two memory cards they only do One fricken Season at a time and doesn't want to remember another one on another card......though you can save a season on each card for some reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted November 22, 2002 Am I the only person who found the draft boring as fuck? I skipped it and let the computer auto draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted November 22, 2002 I went through it once, but yes, it's slow, plodding and pointless. I fucked Raw over by feeding Brock (my Character) the likes of Shawn Stasiak and Randy Orton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted November 22, 2002 Does brock have the SSP in the game or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted November 22, 2002 I rented earlier this week, and although it took me a while to learn the system, I eventually learned to like it. I made a CAW, and have been having a lot of fun in Season Mode. I even rented it for a few more days. I want a wrestling game, but I'm not going to make any decisions until I rent Legends of Wrestling II next week. Btw, does anyone know how to perform instant replays of the end of a match? Assuming replays exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted November 22, 2002 Is there a match mode called Captain Fall Tornado or something like that? Yes, I had one in my season. It was me (as Brock) along with RVD and Matt Hardy against The Rock, Rikishi, and Undertaker. One person on each side is designated as the Captain (they always have an arrow over them in the ring; it was Rocky and I in the match I had), and only a Captain can be pinned or submit for the match to end. It's a fun match, as long as you don't mind the chaos of six guys in the ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted November 22, 2002 I just bought the game today, and it kicks ass. I love the season mode especially. I won the Undisputed Title with Lesnar my first shot, and my first title defense was against Jeff and Regal. Get this, that was the main event for Judgment Day. The only problem I have with the season mode is that you can't switch superstars halfway through the season. I'm bored of using Lesnar now, but I don't want to start a new season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 22, 2002 Am I the only person who found the draft boring as fuck? I skipped it and let the computer auto draft. oh Nope your not the only one.... after like 6 names i said screw it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted November 22, 2002 unfortunately even with two memory cards they only do One fricken Season at a time and doesn't want to remember another one on another card......though you can save a season on each card for some reason If you go to "Options", then "System Data", then "Load System Data" and load the second memory card, that allows you to have access to whatever you saved onto the second memory card. The downside is you'd have to unlock everything twice, but at least that way my brother can do his season, I can do my season, and we don't have to freaking reset and switch memory cards everytime one of us needs a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted November 22, 2002 I wonder... if we do a PPV...and unlock, and not save click to the season window then Click back to Continue, do you go back to the PPV with the option already unlocked so you can unlock something else without having go around a full year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BifEverchad Report post Posted November 22, 2002 I wonder... if we do a PPV...and unlock, and not save click to the season window then Click back to Continue, do you go back to the PPV with the option already unlocked so you can unlock something else without having go around a full year? OooOooh, good question Triv'. But somehow I doubt it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted November 22, 2002 The CAW isn't as detailed as I thought. The clothing choices are very limited (it seems there are mostly women's clothes), you can't make body hair, and you can't give your custom wrestler an "entrance" outfit to wear while he walks to the ring. Not even sunglasses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 22, 2002 The CAW isn't as detailed as I thought. The clothing choices are very limited (it seems there are mostly women's clothes), you can't make body hair, and you can't give your custom wrestler an "entrance" outfit to wear while he walks to the ring. Not even sunglasses. Body hair is in accessories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BigPoppaKev Report post Posted November 24, 2002 I really like this game. I got it on Thursday and after a couple of days of playing it I think it is the best wresling game since No Mercy. I love the create a wrestler mostly because of the puro movesets they have in it. That really does it for me. To see Nagata actually salute before he puts someone in the Nagata lock is just great for me. I think the game play has improved and the career mode is really great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted November 24, 2002 Does brock have the SSP in the game or not? Nope, but if you face Kidman and steal his move you can do the SSP. How about some CAWs that you guys have made? I want to make a Goldberg and Scott Steiner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 24, 2002 Does brock have the SSP in the game or not? Nope, but if you face Kidman and steal his move you can do the SSP. How about some CAWs that you guys have made? I want to make a Goldberg and Scott Steiner. Or you could just edit his moveset like a normal person, and do it ALL the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.H.U.D. Report post Posted November 24, 2002 Is there a way to do instant replays of match endings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted November 24, 2002 A few questions, hopefully I can get some answers to: 1. Is it possible to change the attire for the wrestler's, as well as the entrance music? If so, how? 2. Is it possible to have the nWo come out as a team in exhibition mode? If so, how? 3. Finally, you know how you pick what you want to unlock when you win a PPV match. Well, after the 2 years are up, does everything get unlocked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grenouille Report post Posted November 24, 2002 A few questions, hopefully I can get some answers to: 1. Is it possible to change the attire for the wrestler's, as well as the entrance music? If so, how? 2. Is it possible to have the nWo come out as a team in exhibition mode? If so, how? 3. Finally, you know how you pick what you want to unlock when you win a PPV match. Well, after the 2 years are up, does everything get unlocked? 1. You can't edit what they wear, but you can change their theme music in the edit section. 2. Yes, just put them together in a stable. 3. No, I think you need to play through atleast 3 times to get everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted November 24, 2002 I was just wondering because if WWE had put the SSP for brock in the game, they might have someday intended for him to use it. I guess it's too risky for the next big thing to come off the top like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites