Guest DiabloIIFreak1010 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Vince McMahon has been careful in how he handles Jeff Hardy's lack of motivation and tardiness problems in recent weeks. McMahon went the route of avoiding negative confrontations and often compliments Jeff when he does something good, to try and lift his spirits and get him back into being the passionate wrestler he once was. Recently, McMahon was said to have approached Hardy and complimented him for showing a bit of the passion and dedication he used to show years ago. - Credit: Prowrestling.com Just...FIRE HIM ALREADY. I'm tired of seeing Jeff Hardy put on sloppy moves and skink up Raw... Good god, FIRE THAT MAN!
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 He's treating him like a two year old.
Guest IB2BLACK Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 but jeff is over with the fans.
ChrisMWaters Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Jeff Hardy should become the new Koko B Ware of WWE
Zorin Industries Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I have to say I like Jeff and feel sorry for him more than anything else. But if his recent performances continue Vince really won't have much choice but to fire him.
Guest The Metal Maniac Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Anyone could be over in that role. He just shows up and kills himself. Fuck, pick up some CZW guys. They'd probably do it for cheaper.
Guest Redhawk Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 What is Jeff Hardy doing that Shannon Moore can't do? I don't know what's wrong with Jeff, but he needs some time off. Putting him in tag matches where he only wrestles for one minute just to have the pop he provides isn't worth it.
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I have to say I like Jeff and feel sorry for him more than anything else. . I have no sympathy for drug addicts.
Zorin Industries Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 He reminds me of myself an awful lot so I do have sympathy for him.
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 If you're a drug addict and you're aware of it, get help.
Guest IB2BLACK Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 When was it revealed that jeff does drugs? Or was it something from the 'net?
Guest Eagan469 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 He's on pain killers - but there might be more than that They need to fire him ASAP
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 What is Jeff Hardy doing that Shannon Moore can't do? This pretty much sums it up. Only problem I could see is that depushing a guy while giving his spot to his best friend could just wreck their friendship. I'm sure Vince sees Boy Band potential in Jeff/Moore and their music group, although I can picture this hillbilly rock now and it doesn't sound very good.
Guest HartFan86 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Why is Vince treating Jeff like a kid? I mean, god....I can just picture it: Vince: Good job tonight Jeff, that Swanton Bomb looked really good. *Booker T shown coughing up blood* Vince (to Booker): Why can't YOU do something like that?
B. Brian Brunzell Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I think Vince is going the wrong way with Jeff. Punish him for showing up late. Punish him for a terrible match(of which Jeff has had many). All that tells Jeff is "Keep fucking up, but if you hit your highspot, you win a cookie(or a needle.)"
Guest Quik Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 "Now Jeffie, you've been doing a good job out there! That swanton bomb was AMAZING! Here's a gold star and a cookie, sport. Now go watch TV for a few minutes, and then we're gonna go get some ICE CREAM!"
Guest Choken One Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I think he is trying to avoid a possible suicide. All signs point to it right now...He is using drugs (painkillers), losing weight, unmotivated. The best thing Vince can do is simply check him into rehab either for painkillers or Depression. I hate to say it but maybe Jeff is dependent on his brother...and the seperation might have pushed him away.
Guest HartFan86 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I hate to say it but maybe Jeff is dependent on his brother...and the seperation might have pushed him away. Could be true...problem with that is Matt's on a role right now and by teaming them back up together is just gunna kill the effect of Matt right now as a singles wrestler. My advice to Jeff....get out of wrestling and try venturing in music. It won't hurt you pyschically as much.
Guest Choken One Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I am not saying team them back together but Jeff likely could benifit from being on the same tour with Matt, seems like all of Jeff's friends are Smackdown talent...
Guest razazteca Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Jeff needs Mattitude, or let Kelly win TE3 to be his valet. WWE needs Hardy Boyz V1.5
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 I hate to say it but maybe Jeff is dependent on his brother...and the seperation might have pushed him away. It started before Matt moved to Smackdown though. Jeff has been like this for about a year now, at least. Remember his suspension before Royal Rumble 2002?
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 He came back from that suspension worse then he was before.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 He came back from that suspension worse then he was before. True, but he had already started his slide. People like that only get worse with time.
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Remember the Hardy Catfight at vengeance that people STILL defend? That was the most glaring example.
Guest HartFan86 Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 At least Jeff didn't look like he was sleeping in a swamp a year ago.
Guest buffybeast Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Did any of you stop to think that maybe Vince actually CARES for Jeff and doesn't want to see him hurt himself? I know, if all these rumors are true then Vince is acting as Jeff's codependent. But I suspect Vince really cares for Jeff as a person plus he realizes how popular Jeff is and doesn't want to bench him/fire him. I agree with what others have said, however. Jeff probably needs some professional drug and psychiatric counseling.
Guest IB2BLACK Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Where does this Jeff on drugs" come from?
Guest buffybeast Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Where does this Jeff on drugs" come from? Look at him! He looks a mess!
Guest Anglesault Posted November 29, 2002 Report Posted November 29, 2002 Did any of you stop to think that maybe Vince actually CARES for Jeff and doesn't want to see him hurt himself? I don't doubt that.
Guest SP-1 Posted November 30, 2002 Report Posted November 30, 2002 If it's true, then i think it's a case of Vince trying to keep Jeff afloat, too. Bad booking decisions on RAW aside, I think Vince does try to look out for his people behind the curtain. He's kinda like the Wizard of Oz, I think. In public he's the guy who screwed bret Hart, he's the Boss you don't Cross, he's a no nonsense businessman who can tell a joke or two. But behind the curtain, I think he genuinely cares for his business and the people that make it what it is. Everybody makes mistakes, doesn't make them eternal bastards. If Jeff really is this bad off, I hope that Vince checks him into rehab soon. Don't fire him, but I think if Vince worked with him, as he appears to be doing, and helps Jeff get into a situation where he can clean himself up, Jeff can still be useful. Maybe not as a high flying spot machine, but I think he could adapt his style and continue.
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