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Guest MillenniumMan831

I do also remembering that Dick Jacobs (then-Cleveland Indians owner) offered to share what would be named Jacobs Field with Modell for Browns games and Modell turned it down. So Modell did have alternatives.

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Guest MillenniumMan831
Living in Cleveland, I actually know some people that WERE Packers fans, but stopped because they stopped winning Super Bowls.  What a crock!

 

It's weird because my two favorite teams are BY FAR The Browns and The Eagles.  Their two stadiums are the homes of two of the most infamous incidents ever.

 

Philly:  See above posts.  Irvin was a prick during his playing days so I don't see the big shock here.  I know I'd cheer if I saw Sapp get carried out.  Oh yes I would!

 

Cleveland:  Trying to decapitate referees and Jaguars with beer bottles.  Well, that call was horseshit!  Don't screw Browns fans over playoff hopes or consequences will be met.

Yes because throwing crap onto the field is a great way to get your point across

On the spur of the moment, I thought it was a fine plan. Al Learner (RIP) and Carmen Policy seemed to think so. What did you want the fans to do? Start a petition and pass it around The Dawg Pound? Please!

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Guest Kotzenjunge

I became a Packer fan with the beginning of the 1996 season (the Super Bowl season), as a purely objective decision. I had decided that I was going to start following football, and I knew I needed a team to root for, so I used the following qualifications:

 

Spiffy yet simple logo

Natural grass stadium

Rich history

Its fans are considered special

Has a pretty good winning tradition

Colors I wouldn't mind wearing

 

So I chose the Packers. Been a fan ever since, and more and more diehard by the day.

 

Fo sheez,

Kotzenjunge

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Guest bob_barron

I'm just saying Millenium that throwing crap onto the field is just retarded and is really dangerous. It also makes the fans look like a bunch of morons

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Guest razazteca

the cities that have fans throw crap on the field: Snow Balls, Batteries, trash.

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Guest MillenniumMan831

Bob, I understand what you're saying and I am not going to try to fool people into thinking throwing bottles is a wise thing to do. I'm just trying to bring the Cleveland-side of the story.

 

If there was ONE rule that the NFL wanted you to know about Instant Replay is that you can't go back two plays. Unfortuantely, that rule became null and void in Cleveland a year ago. Plus, it eliminated The Browns from playoff contention.

 

The Browns are like a 60-year old man who hasn't had sex in 40 years. Sure The Browns won NFL Championships in the 1960s (scored with a chick), but since has NEVER been to the Super Bowl. Sure, they went to a handful of AFC Championship games (been out on dates w/ hot chicks), but lost in heartbreaking defeats (rejected by the girl while in boxers). Then, Cleveland is left w/o football (man gets weiner chopped off, but drive is still there). However, The Browns come back (surgery replaces organ with a better one). And a mere three years later, in the playoff chase before getting cock-blocked by the officials. Well, after 40 years, Cleveland snapped!

 

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Guest AlwaysPissedOff

In the NFL: Eagles, Raiders, and most Tampa Bay fans(eat shit and bark at the moon, fuckers)

 

Also, special mention goes out to those Browns fans who cheered when Couch got injured just so a 30-year old bum could come in at QB. Fucking tasteless pieces of trash.

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Guest Kotzenjunge
Its fans are considered special

In what way? Killing the coaches dog.

Special in that there's a name for them, they're easily recognizable, etc. Sheesh, you anti-Lactates are out of hand!!!

 

Fo sheez,

Kotzenjunge

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Guest JHawk

Allow me as a Browns fan to get their side in.

 

Millennium actually did a pretty good analogy of the entire situation as far as the bottle throwing went. I don't condone that, but I nearly got kicked out of my own house because of how pissed I was about it. They changed a rule in the middle of a game to fuck a team over, and the NFL had the gall to claim the referees got the call right. (At least acknowledge it's a mistake and we might... *gasp*... accept the apology.) The bottle throwing was tasteless though, and I won't condone it, but obviously the usual avenues of complaining about a call (like booing or starting "bullshit" chants) never work.

 

If you recall, Lerner and Policy never condoned the bottle throwing, they merely said they were glad to have fans who were that passionate about the team. And they never blamed the referees for blowing the call when they did that.

 

As for the crowd cheering when Couch got hurt, two things. 1) I was at that game and at least half that crowd was silent. The assholes were just very vocal. 2) When I asked someone in my section how they could cheer our guy getting hurt, his response was, "Fuck, Couch got hurt? I was cheering because I saw Holcomb going onto the field." It was the Baltimore game, Couch was playing like shit, and some fans simply cheered the quarterback change, and not necessarily the injury. The ones who did cheer the injury had no right to be in that stadium, as far as I'm concerned.

 

As far as Art Modell goes:

 

1. The tax referendum was only a city vote, and Browns fans are scattered throughout northern Ohio, plus they have official chapters of the Browns Backers fan club in all 50 states, so the fans did not have as much say in that as some people think. I live an hour away from Cleveland and thus had no say whatsoever in that referendum vote, but would have gladly voted for it had I lived in Cleveland and thought Modell would even consider moving the team without it.

 

2. There was a lot of history in that old stadium, and many fans simply didn't want to see it go, especially after the Indians had officially moved to Jacobs Field.

 

3. Art Modell claimed he wasn't making enough money to run the team in Cleveland. The facts are that even when the Browns suck they sell out nearly game (so never say we have bad fans because most cities don't do that). His payroll the last season was $36 million and TV revenues alone covered $35 million. Add in about 640,000 ticket buying fans per 8 game regular season at an average of $15-20 apiece, and there's no way to lose money on that team. So Art Modell moved the team because he's a dumbass who doesn't know how to save or invest his money.

 

4. When Art Modell moved the team, he still had three years remaining on a lease with the city of Cleveland. Therefore, by moving the team he was under breach of contract with the city.

 

Essentially, Modell screwed an entire city (and fans in every state) because he's a jackass who can't play the market.

 

 

 

Now, all that being said, do I condone fans throwing shit onto the field? No. But as a fan, I've seen just about everything that can possibly happen to screw a team over just happen to take place in a Cleveland Browns game to the point that even the person least likely to be a conspiracy theorist is thinking "How the hell does this always happen to Cleveland?"

 

 

And just to mention the Raiders-Patriots playoff game real quick. By rule, it's an incomplete pass. But if he was trying to throw that football, then Triple H is trying to pass the torch to someone who can actually draw.

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